Creating subtitles

Slayer · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:12 pm **Post subject:** Creating subtitles

Because I have a British documentary on my country in World War II and I want to show it to the kids, I need subtitles for it. I searched around and found Subtitle Workshop.

The question is: is Subtitle Workshop the best option to easily create subtitles? Or is there another, better, easier way?

BadBugs · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:26 pm **Post subject:**

Subtitle Workshop is really good. Thats what I use to spellcheck the subtitles I download although when I created the subs for metropolis, I did them manually as I hadnt discovered any proggies to help me at the time.

antropomorphic · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:11 pm **Post subject:**

ok, lets clear out somethin here: spellchecking stuff you download = NOT 'creating' subs :wink:

@slayer is what badbugs said what you want to do, or do you want to make subs from scratch => typing all the txt down & timing it to the video??

BadBugs · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:12 pm **Post subject:**

READ IT AGAIN!!

I spent 3 months creating subtitles for Metropolis by translating the German Text :evil:

http://scifi.dead-donkey.com/viewtopic. ... 3171#23171

Slayer · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:15 pm **Post subject:**

I want to make subs from scratch => typing all the txt down & timing it to the video.

Thanks guys, and don't get mad at each other.

BadBugs · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:31 pm **Post subject:**

You'll find this program very helpful in doing this, its always going to be a ballache & it will take you a while :wink:

antropomorphic · **Posted:** Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:43 pm **Post subject:**

BadBugs wrote:

READ IT AGAIN!!

I spent 3 months creating subtitles for Metropolis by translating the German Text :evil:

http://scifi.dead-donkey.com/viewtopic. ... 3171#23171

as I asked...
so you did some tl from german to english, & used the original timing of the file => yet again: this is NOT creating, its simply translating :wink:

no offence meant m8,but I'm a fansubber, I know what it means to create & time/typeset subs from scratch; thats why I wondered what exactly it was you have done :mrgreen:

@slayer: I prefer aegisub

Slayer · **Posted:** Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:47 pm **Post subject:**

Why? What does it do better?

BadBugs · **Posted:** Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:04 pm **Post subject:**

antropomorphic wrote:

BadBugs wrote:

READ IT AGAIN!!

I spent 3 months creating subtitles for Metropolis by translating the German Text :evil:

http://scifi.dead-donkey.com/viewtopic. ... 3171#23171

as I asked...
so you did some tl from german to english, & used the original timing of the file => yet again: this is NOT creating, its simply translating :wink:

Again... Read It AGAIN!!!

Timed from where ? What subtitles Did I Translate? There was no german subtitles to translate & if you knew the film & did your research about the film I was talking about (& I added a link for you :roll:

)then youd realise that there is intertitles during the SILENT film in German so whether you like it or not, I CREATED the english subtitles from scratch for this film, timing & all. :roll:

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:36 pm **Post subject:**

As a fansubber myself, i usually get bored and do something else :googley:

Muchas, respectas, etcas.

Now how about whipping me up some subs to the latest asain crap so i can understand wtf is going on? :lol:

antropomorphic · **Posted:** Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:45 am **Post subject:**

spudthedestroyer wrote:

A

Now how about whipping me up

will do

@spud: why? I prefer the interface & its very easy to typeset /do kara with

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:47 pm **Post subject:**

@antro, I assume you didn't mean me with the @spud bit :googley:

antropomorphic · **Posted:** Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:46 pm **Post subject:**

oops indeed, I meant @slayer :googley:

Slayer · **Posted:** Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:27 pm **Post subject:**

Whoa, I've been translating and typing subs now for the documentary. It lasts 53 minutes and it took me around 5 hours up to now. I still need to sync them...

antropomorphic · **Posted:** Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:36 pm **Post subject:**

that'll take you 50 hours if you have never done it before :wink:

(and if you want to do it right that is, without framebleeds etc...)

Slayer · **Posted:** Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:33 pm **Post subject:**

Wow, that sounds nice. Thanks for the encouragement :wacky:

I have a feeling that it will be less than 50 hours because Subtitle Workshop is gonna help me.

antropomorphic · **Posted:** Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:03 pm **Post subject:**

of course, I was only kidding :wink:

most subtools do a fairly decent job, but (and I'm talking strictly from an obsessive fansubber's point of view :wink:

) it usually needs some manual tuning

Slayer · **Posted:** Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:09 pm **Post subject:**

Of course, the machine is never perfect (because it's made by man).

slasherman · **Posted:** Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:33 pm **Post subject:**

So what exactly does the Subtitle Workshop do ? I'm creating a subtitle from scratch right now and what a painstaiking job it is..I'm doing it the "old school" way..first trying to translate a sequence with dialog into decent english text..then trying manually to time the text with dialog...I'm using a old srt text from another movie, delete the text and change the time..

Can I upload a avi file in the program and slow down the speed with a timeline? That would help I think to see in slowmo when the speech stops and ends...and maybe copy the time into the srt so I don have to write it ...
Link to the program ?

...and can somebody help me with the translation into decent and correct english ? :mrgreen:

I found out that about 4 seconds is a proper time for 2 sentences and 2,5 to 3 seconds on one sentence..is there a golden rule ?

antropomorphic · **Posted:** Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:38 am **Post subject:**

over at the group, we use a lead in of 5-10/100sec & the same lead out (without framebleeds of course. mainly, coz the human brain hears faster than it reads

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