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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 4:52 pm  Post subject: Some questions about VCD
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First of all, I want to know if you can change a movie to a picturefile that you can burn as a vcd ? I know that Nero Burner can change .avi files into vcd's BUT they always get to large for my 700 mb. cd's and I really don't know how large they are.

Another thing, is it possible to get subs on a vcd ?

I hope that somebody knows about this subject :?


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 9:41 pm  Post subject:
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You can use TMPEnc to convert the file first.

There is a guide here :

http://www.dvdrhelp.com/tmpgenc.htm

Sorry I can't give more help, I only convert my avi's to DVD format so I'm not much good on VCD's. :(

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 3:54 am  Post subject:
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i can not over-emphasize, do not use nero's inbuilt shite converter. Use TMPGenc or CCE and do a two pass encode.

I can't say i've done it myself only a avi to DVDr once or twice but I hear the quality difference is huge.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 5:31 am  Post subject: Re: Some questions about VCD
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Jensus wrote:
First of all, I want to know if you can change a movie to a picturefile that you can burn as a vcd ? I know that Nero Burner can change .avi files into vcd's BUT they always get to large for my 700 mb. cd's and I really don't know how large they are.A nother thing, is it possible to get subs on a vcd ?I hope that somebody knows about this subject :?


if a file is over 700mb it CAN still be burnt, it can be 'overburned'-your writer should say somewhere its capacities. It may say that overburn can damage the cd AND the write, but it has never happened to me, or anyone i know,u should try the guieds on doom9.net, or the links there. Ive done a few vcd's but they have been a pain to do.

some sites with in-depth information-
http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/mpg/vcdsvcd_faq.htm
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23668
buncha s/vcd sites, (not all in english)
http://www.inwards.com/inwards/?id=36
http://mitglied.lycos.de/Gandalf_Grau/
http://www.inwards.com/inwards/?id=36
http://www.vcdeasy.org/
http://www.vcdimager.org/
http://www.videotools.net/
http://www.vcdgear.com/

ot ask me, id propbalby know.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 10:19 am  Post subject:
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Thanks all 8)

I know about overburning (finalizing, right ? ) and I often do that, when movies are larger than 700, but when converting in Nero, I don't know what size it is, but its to large to burn it on the disc, even when finalizing ?! :|


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 12:37 pm  Post subject:
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If you're burning VCD then megabytes don't matter - runtime in minutes does. I've burnt a MPEG-1 file with size greater than 800 MB mins without problems on 700 MB CD because the running time was 80 mins.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 2:26 pm  Post subject:
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Yes, the reason is that for VCDs part of the space which is normally reserved for error correction is used. Another reason why I don't like VCDs. True, for a VCD it does not matter if a few bits changes. Normally you should not even see this. But it makes resharing quite difficult. Burn a VCD, wait a few weeks, rip it again. If you are unlucky the resulting file will have a different hash than the original.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 4:17 pm  Post subject:
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DJBenz and Spud, to burn DVD you need a dvdburner, right ? + Those cd's is really expensive, arent they ?

Graag, thanks for the information, too bad that most movies is like 120 minutes.

wargand, dont worry, it's not for storage of my films, if i want storage I'll just burn em to a cd....it's just cool if i could watch my films on DVDplayers, and bring em to friends....one of my friends is desperate for Vampyros Lesbos :mrgreen:

Oh, by the way, anybody know anything about subs and VCDs (just in case you didnt notice the question the first time) :twisted:


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 6:27 pm  Post subject:
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Jensus wrote:
DJBenz and Spud, to burn DVD you need a dvdburner, right ? + Those cd's is really expensive, arent they ?


To burn to a dvd yes you need a dvd burner. DVD-r expensive though????? HELL NO! They fit over six times the capacity of a cdr and are only about twice the cost (I get mine for 75p a pop)! DVD-r drives are now down to about 135 also, much cheaper than CD-r drives were in this stage in their development.

I burn six/seven movies to one disc which is much cheaper and saves soooo much space when storing them :)

I don't burn VCDs or games to cd anymore, I burn six + to a DVD-r then use deamon tool to mount and play ;)

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