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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:42 pm  Post subject: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc.
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What's the best media player hardware these days? if I were not to build a PC that is...

My expectation is anything I am able to acquire on the inter-webs from hdtv binary newsgroups, etc. would work out of the box, along with subs, etc.

ps. I have no interest what so ever in bluray, it is such a none issue format for me.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:10 pm  Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc.
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Have been looking at EGreat EG-M34A for a while.
Seems to have the options you're looking for.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:45 pm  Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc.
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HDX 1000 NMT Player :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:45 am  Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:22 am  Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc.
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killmoney wrote:
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=572

did you look at the specs? this one doesn't cut it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:16 pm  Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc.
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Vae Victis wrote:
killmoney wrote:
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=572

did you look at the specs? this one doesn't cut it.


I have one of these and it plays all the major formats, what in your opinion is missing?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:49 pm  Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc.
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doesn't support dts downsample for one. Yes it does play the major formats, but it's underpowered for the heavy hd work.
plus a media player should be able to play stuff from the network.

But the price is pretty okey for what you get! it's good, but just not the mediaplayer. (not saying that the one I've posted is the one)
It's really too bad it's lacking/missing just a couple of features to make it the media player it should be (could've been).

Plus it doesn't support nzb downloads, which is one of the things spud wanted.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:02 pm  Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc.
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The WD TV is not the media player but it's damn nice for its low price. And it's popular which is a good thing because there are tons of tweaked firmwares. You can have network access and even use it for downloading torrents and NZBs! I don't have one but I bought one for a friend and had plenty of time to play with it.

http://www.digitalera.co.uk/pages/wdtv_mod.html
http://www.wdtvc.com/tag/wdlxtv/
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:49 pm  Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc.
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This page could help: http://www.mpeg4-players.info/index_eng ... ch_eng.php


Does the WD TV really stutter while playing back MKV files? :o


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:31 pm  Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc.
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elchupacabra wrote:
Does the WD TV really stutter while playing back MKV files? :o


Mine has never, on either SD or 720p x264 files.

I've never tried a 1080p file though.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:18 am  Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc.
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elchupacabra wrote:
Does the WD TV really stutter while playing back MKV files? :o


All the 720p I tried had no problems. I have only a handful of 1080p and those played fine too. There is a chance that older rips won't play smooth on any of all these players, because ~2 years ago everybody was encoding with unrestricted settings and the chipsets of these players support only HP L4.1 or lower.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:57 am  Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc.
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elchupacabra wrote:
This page could help: http://www.mpeg4-players.info/index_eng ... ch_eng.php


Does the WD TV really stutter while playing back MKV files? :o


is like gx said :rock:

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:29 pm  Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc.
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telmoMRC wrote:
elchupacabra wrote:
This page could help: http://www.mpeg4-players.info/index_eng ... ch_eng.php


Does the WD TV really stutter while playing back MKV files? :o


is like gx said :rock:

i have one :rock: also better them this only one naked girl :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

w00t? :o

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:06 am  Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc.
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only one naked girl? :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:15 pm  Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc.
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okay so the general consensus is, if money is no object get a nitrogen cooled t-1000. If you don't want to build your own and are looking at bang/buck, WDTV?

Maybe we can come up with a recommendations page or something we can recommend some community approved players?

a) Dead-Donkey approved mechagodzilla pimp-daddy: ???
b) Bang/Buck: WDTV?
c) Diseased Rodent: ???
d) Legacy Media Player: Modified Xbox with XBMC

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:38 pm  Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc.
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Another new player: http://xtreamer.net/
Specs look okey.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:08 pm  Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc.
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Maybe a forum you might be interested in: http://www.networkedmediatank.com/

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:32 pm  Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc.
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WDTV has a (n# reference frames * resolution) horsepower limit.
Pass and ye will stutter. If move at all.

DTS downsampling status offically "Planned".
Which means no guarantees.


and, to let the images do the talking :

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Fair to assume you won't get that for under 100 bucks.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:43 am  Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc.
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Geezus wrote:
WDTV has a (n# reference frames * resolution) horsepower limit.
Pass and ye will stutter. If move at all.


elguaxo wrote:
There is a chance that older rips won't play smooth on any of all these players, because ~2 years ago everybody was encoding with unrestricted settings and the chipsets of these players support only HP L4.1 or lower.


It's not a secret formula:

Level compliance

Select MaxDPB, --vbv-maxrate and --vbv-bufsize options from the table below depending on which level you wish to encode to:

Code:
    Level    MaxDPB  vbv-maxrate  vbv-bufsize
     3.0     3,037.5    10,000       10,000
     3.1     6,750      14,000       14,000
     3.2     7,680      20,000       20,000
     4.0    12,288      20,000       25,000
     4.1    12,288      50,000       62,500
     4.2    13,056      50,000       62,500
     5.0    41,400     135,000      135,000
     5.1    69,120     240,000      240,000


MaxDPB = Maximum Decoded Picture Buffer size. Although the table shows maximum values for --vbv-bufsize, this typically should be set to a maximum of 14000, it depends on the device you're encoding for.

Round up width and height (purely for this calculation, not the encode) to the nearest mod 16 value
Reference frames = MaxDPB * 1024 / 1.5 / ( mod16_width * mod16_height )
Round down the result

Example:

Lets say you are encoding @ 708x564. Rounding width and height up to mod 16 gives us 720x576.
Therefore, the number of reference frames for a

level 3.0 compliant encode is 3037.5 * 1024 / 1.5 / (720*576) = 5
level 3.1 compliant encode is 6750 * 1024 / 1.5 / (720*576) = 11

Settings for a 3.1 level encode of our example video: --level 3.1 --ref 11 --vbv-maxrate 14000 --vbv-bufsize 14000


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:40 am  Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc.
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This should go into the Encoding thread.

@WDTV: So they are releasing a new model, just because of the DTS downsampling feature?


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