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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 1:11 pm  Post subject: The Next BIG Thing!
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the end of WINDOZ is coming...

http://www.discreetfx.com/TechTVMorphOS.mpg

http://www.morphos.net/

http://www.pegasos.com.au/

enjoy hardware freaks!!!!

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Sounds too good to be true, the world is just too lazy to bother.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:16 pm  Post subject:
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LMAO !

d0c - amiga is dead - get over it ....this isn't healthy...

anyway , just like linux , devellopers underestimate the genral people's denseness and lazyness......

1 billion people are not gonna change their OS just like that ...

Talk to BeOS :lol:

BTW Who is that guy in your avatar ? You ? I new ya was a 40+ ! :mrgreen:

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this is just something you should bother about if u like M$ hell then ur welcome to stay with that bigbrother, spyware os... i cant force you.. at least you should get the understanding of what this is before you reply... i can mention somethings for u here...

1.emule and other cool stuff is coming soon to morphos....

2.morphos the new amigaos they call it and its 99% compatible with old amiga software..

3.its better than windoz in the way it handle file structure and other stuff, it boots up in seconds...

4.its a os that work for the ppl not against ppl like windoz..(a person here got his files delete if you read that post)

5. it is the only os that support the new g4 ppc cpu...(the new ppc u havent heard about i guess)

6.its silence like no computer u have heard, no need for a noise killer

and much more....

i have been following this new thing for 1 and half year now and it get better every time i read about it, and i know some of the ppl that have this computer and the os that devlope for it, so this aint no... amiga vs pc crazy rambling...

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ohgodnotanotherone wrote:
LMAO !

d0c - amiga is dead - get over it ....this isn't healthy...

anyway , just like linux , devellopers underestimate the genral people's denseness and lazyness......

1 billion people are not gonna change their OS just like that ...

Talk to BeOS :lol:

BTW Who is that guy in your avatar ? You ? I new ya was a 40+ ! :mrgreen:


you can lamo as much u will.... but do a research about the product before you replay...

1 billion ppl will not change in one day, but a few 1000 will and slowly more will come, when they get to know the product. we got linux but it aint for everyone and ppl that want to get away from M$ hell or linux and just want a cheaper ppc computer than mac, will like this i can tell you. you should also know this new thing aint for the normal pc user yet (where is the anykey question, come to mind) windoz as we know it will change and it will get more bloted and bigbrother watching is something we know about with winxp today thats a fact you cant hide from.... as for me i am just sitting on the fence and watching and when the time is right i will get my hands on this thing...

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:29 pm  Post subject:
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The problem these new OS's have is that software dev will not happen enough to convince ppl to move across because the soft dev will make little from it, and ppl will not switch if there is little soft available for it.

What windows needs is either for the smaller OS's to somehow become compatible with each other, forming a larger whole. The other alternative is for a large company to actively develop a new OS, either way, windows is here to stay for a while.

I gotta say the only reason I stick with MS is because of the simplicity of use and availability of soft, if Linux or any other OS could provide either of these then I would dump MS in a heartbeat.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:35 pm  Post subject:
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On a sidenote, does anyone have a list of all the alternative OS's available? It would be interesting to have a read thru and hear ppl's opinions.

I aint bothered about Linux, have used it, albeit for only a short period, and liked it in general. It was weird having it work differently from what I was used to, but I felt I could have got used to it, but it was ultimately the slightly harder used factor that put the rest of my family off.

I believe the ultimate OS ATM would be the ease of use and soft availability of Windows, combined with everything else form Linux, especially the stability and speed.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 3:56 pm  Post subject:
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TaKYoNtheKoRRuPTeD wrote:
I aint bothered about Linux, have used it, albeit for only a short period, and liked it in general. It was weird having it work differently from what I was used to, but I felt I could have got used to it, but it was ultimately the slightly harder used factor that put the rest of my family off.

I believe the ultimate OS ATM would be the ease of use and soft availability of Windows, combined with everything else form Linux, especially the stability and speed.


Well there's the nix crew:
Red Hat
Knoeppix
Debian
SUSE
BSD Patrol
Lindows (booo!)
etc.

There is the Sun effort, that being
Solaris aka SunOS (made in java, but is surprisingly fast!)

There's the delightful, but annoying unix based:
MacOS

There's the monopolising m$ range:
Win 98
Win NT
Win 2k
Win XP

BTW watched Revolution OS last night, lol@the geeks vs Microsoft :lol:

Mac is here because of cad,
*nix is here because a) free b) very efficient for coding / developing / research c) Probably the biggest reason, it was adopted by ISPS and servers because of Apache,
Windows is here because of marketing and compatability
Solaris is here because of java is 'the in language' atm.

I don't see what the killer app is for Morp.

I agreethough, this is a very, very small fish, in an extremely large ocean. Amiga died a long time ago ;)

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:10 pm  Post subject:
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Quote:
1. No filemanager in OS.
2. You must add Amiguide libraries yourself.
3. You must use Amiga OS 68k Arexx libraries (no arexx built in)
4. No text editor! (this one hurt my feelings) you can download BareEd from Aminet.
5. NO TCP/IP stack! ( this is the killer) I already had MiamiDX on my 4000T so I could use that. Genesis also works from OS 3.5/3.9. There is a planned built in stack to be released in the near future Amitcp 5 native!
6. No email client - not a big deal you can download Yam 2.4 MOS native.
7. No floppy support - Peg has built in floppy controller but its not supported by Ambient (it is on Linux side) so If you want floppy support get a Catweasel!
8. Joystick support - as of yet there is no joystick support in Ambient - Catweasel also remedies this.
9. Printing - with MOS 1.3 release there is no native printing support - they are working on native Turbo Print as we speak.
10. No Installer - you must install Installer 43.3 yourself (its included on CD) and you must either change the default png icon to old os 3.9 style or run an arexx script to patch the install.
11. No 3D support for graphics cards - this is in the works; they have Voodoo3d drivers in late beta.
12. No native TV card support - must go 3rd party with apps like Visionary for GRex with PCI Graphics Cards
13. Icon handling is terrible as is snapshotting; should be dealt with in 1.4.


Very young fish too :)

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:50 pm  Post subject:
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If I wanted to change OS's, I'd gone for Linux already. It has been around for some time and still it has at most 5% the software and 5% the support from third parties I need it to have.
What's so special about this one? It'll be just another "cool new OS" with a small user base and pitiful online community.
The software companies that make the software I need are and will be based on Mac OS's and Windows. So as long as I'm not switching to Mac, I'll stick with Windows.
If MorphOS gets the sufficient software and support, it'll probably be a good alternative. But I'm definitely not holding my breath for this.


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glad they have Voodoo 3D drivers, though :roll:


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the amiga didnt die... i can tell you that... if you bother to do a search on the net u will find good communitys like hhah forum and more.. there is alot of retro sites about the crappy amiga 500 but amiga has developed alot since that. the new amigaos is amigaos4.0(when its done), morphos and aros. its just in the beginning, they dont have a killer appz as you know it but there are alot of good amiga killer appz you can use(yes you can use your old amiga warez).. also alot of new appz are developed, emule for morphos is ported so its a start ;) and i guess the regular joe is not much intressted in alternatives than winsoz. but i believe amigaos or what name it will have in the future will be back and what you see in my links are just a start of it all, its alot of work to build up a os from scratch you know but there is very dedicated ppl that are developing these new amiga oses... i know the ppl behind aros and morphos, i talk to them daily...


i can tell you this if you dont know what bill gates is up to, i will say it to you here, he want total controll of you and your computer... YES thats right, if you know your winxp you will know this...it will show even more when longhorn comes around. the day when windoz will not let you install emule/edonkey on your high tech computer becouse its not authorized by mircosoft will come..

here are some linkes so you can check out if your to lazy to seach on the net...

http://www.amiga.org/
http://www.amigaworld.net/
http://ann.lu/
http://www.morphzone.org/
http://www.pegasosppc.com/
http://www.aros.org/
http://os.amiga.com/
http://www.amiga.com/
http://www.elbox.com/
http://www.vesalia.de/
http://www.kdh-shop24.de/
http://www.ggsdata.se/
http://www.jschoenfeld.de/indexe.htm

here you have some links to start out with...

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 5:20 pm  Post subject:
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d0c wrote:
the amiga didnt die...


Commercially, it died horribly. Support wise, it all but disappeared. Software wise, it had all but gone.
Just like Atari and the rest did, it died as a platform and carried on by a handful if that. That can't be denied. I, and probably everyone else who posted in this thread, knows that there are still a handful of people still commited, but at the moment, they hardly provide an alternative to squat. But pretending they aren't dwarfed by even Linux users is unhealthy :)

Amiga died, it doesn't mean they can't come back from the dead. Many companies have, its just no form of 'competition' at the moment.


Anyway, looking at morpheus, it is in no way threatening to m$ supremacy in any shape or form as of yet. The major 'threat' comes from linux that is about ten times older than morpheus, and in the fields of design and media, MacOS.

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The Amiga community is dwarfed even by the BeOS community :lol:

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It's also dwarved by the Dwarf community. Not the hhah community yet though :(

Anyone want me to whip an OS in php or visual basic? :wacky:

btw. Anything that can offer better stability, as good as or better compatability and plug and play (and ease of use) than windows, deserves to (and will) replace it. :)

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It is all well and good saying this didn't die and that didn't die, but face it, the AMiga died, it is as good as gone. Like any other machine tho, a small group of fans, users, whatever have kept it going, but it don't mean squat, I can find communities that harp on about bollocks for any other machine that has ever existed.

The sad truth is that this will never get anywhere, just the same as all the others have never become major players, M$ "IS" the market ATM, and it aint gonna change any time soon. Most users never get to a competancy level high enuff to start switching OS's, hell, I have had ppl fone me up at 2 in the morning cos they got an error message on screen that some app has crashed and they were panicking. My bro has been a PC user and online for over 5 years, and he still does not see the point of periodically defraging and cleaning the shit outta his PC, he just lets it explode and then calls me, same as most other users I know.

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The sad truth is that this will never get anywhere, just the same as all the others have never become major players, M$ "IS" the market ATM, and it aint gonna change any time soon. Most users never get to a competancy level high enuff to start switching OS's, hell, I have had ppl fone me up at 2 in the morning cos they got an error message on screen that some app has crashed and they were panicking. My bro has been a PC user and online for over 5 years, and he still does not see the point of periodically defraging and cleaning the shit outta his PC, he just lets it explode and then calls me, same as most other users I know.


Linux *could* gain another major foot hold, it needs anotehr Apache.

Whilst M$ dominates the home market overwhelmingly, its the commercial market where things aren't going quite so well. Linux owns the web server and database areas, m$ is struggling very hard to keep up as number one.

This is all happening behind closed doors for the home market though. It all eventually trickles down. Linux took off because university researchers and computer programmers needed unix at home, it took off further when APACHE 'won' the internet and isp market. The userbase is growing at home, but its the business applications what has 'forced' this. I see no real business application for morpheus though, and i don't think it can do much without first securing that; like *nix, dows and mac.

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