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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 8:57 pm  Post subject: XVID or DIVX (5.05) ?
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Well I'll keep it brief.....

Wich do you prefer ? Xvid is supposed to be the next big thing but so far I haven't been blown away...
As a matter of fact , in unexperienced hands ( ie most hands) it's results are sometimes frankly poor.....

Now I'm sticking, for the time being, with divx 5.05 - I think the quality is as good as Xvid's , especially with ALL options on, though doing that (bypassing profiles presets) takes unacceptable astronomical time.......(up to 12 hours for 1 cd on a p4 1.7Ghz)
( I can do a Opendivx 4 with a preset WITHIN 4 Hours! and the pic quality is merely a tad sharper)

Mind you, I'm planning a rip that starts and ends with a Q for a 2cd ac3 xvid rip.....just not sure wich options I should use/ leave out...

Yes monkeysmasher......it's that one !

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 10:48 pm  Post subject:
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as in the south american winged claymation god? not too many q named movies.

just in case, here are some things that messed me up, if they seem too basic/obvious, sorry. but just in case-

when u installed gknot(i think thats what u use) did you make sure to run vdub/vdubmod mannually once before running gknot?

had you tried the virtual dub optimized for p4? its over at doom9.net. i dont use it, but i guess its p4 optimized.

set the priority speed in divx5.0x sub page 'general parameters' under 'performance/quality' to something besides 'slowest'?

got rid of them wormies eating up cpu juice. make sure your divx.dll files werent corruppted by it.

i never used xvid. heard good things bout it, though. too bad new things scare and intimidate me.

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I don't like xvid. Causes many problems and picture quality is worse than divx.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:37 pm  Post subject:
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personally i rip with Xvid using DVDX2.2 but have not tried divx5.05, i have compared previous Divx to Xvid rips and the Xvid has always looked better IMO

But each to there own :D


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 3:13 pm  Post subject:
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At first, xvid was a crummy choice to rip with. I can remember how shit release groups rips looked when they started using it. However now I think it is a good solid codec, and it has been used for two rips, metallica and Hemoglobin.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 6:09 pm  Post subject:
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monkeysmasher wrote:
as in the south american winged claymation god? not too many q named movies.

just in case, here are some things that messed me up, if they seem too basic/obvious, sorry. but just in case-

when u installed gknot(i think thats what u use) did you make sure to run vdub/vdubmod mannually once before running gknot?

had you tried the virtual dub optimized for p4? its over at doom9.net. i dont use it, but i guess its p4 optimized.

set the priority speed in divx5.0x sub page 'general parameters' under 'performance/quality' to something besides 'slowest'?

got rid of them wormies eating up cpu juice. make sure your divx.dll files werent corruppted by it.

i never used xvid. heard good things bout it, though. too bad new things scare and intimidate me.


That's fine but GKNOT uses virtualdubMOD -at least the newest version I got - Not to sure I can just replace it with virtualdub....

And yes I keep at slowest - It'about quality.....otherwise I might as well do a divx 4..........

And yes ,,,,the winged serpent is coming near you ! 8)

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 7:05 pm  Post subject:
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is there much difference in quality in the different speed settings?
i cant tell, but i dont do too many dvds. slowest took 6 hours per pass on one i did last night, and i did the same one on 'medium' took 2 hours, i cant tell the difference.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 10:48 pm  Post subject:
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monkeysmasher wrote:
is there much difference in quality in the different speed settings?
i cant tell, but i dont do too many dvds. slowest took 6 hours per pass on one i did last night, and i did the same one on 'medium' took 2 hours, i cant tell the difference.


eh,You did both passes ? AND ALL OPTIONS ? ( some are NOT availible if you have merely 5.02)

the "guide "I learned from insists you leave it at slowest

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:44 am  Post subject:
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i was away today, but i left 'when evelyn came out of her grave' cook on 'medium' 2passed divx 5.05 unless i somehow messed up my codecs trying to fix my audio caps. it looked fine to me.

do you mean using the psychovisual effects? i havent messed with them at all, so i think they are whatever the defaults are.

i usually go with whatever the last recomenddation is at doom9.net, or whatever default setings are. mind you my eyes dont work properly, and the tv i watch them on is big, at 800x600 NTSC, with a lot of graphics crap and my incredibly low standards. ex. this 't' is about 1 inch tall, or the width of my thumb. i measured. things look completely different on a monitor,so i guess it comes down to personal prefference, or number of complaints/requests.

i think doom9 has done a few comparison tests, usually quite frequently.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 9:27 pm  Post subject:
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GNA GNA :twisted:
I got something that can read DVD again....
Oh look! it can write all of 'em too ! :P
RIPPING TIME AGAIN!


Anyway, was experimenting with Xvid today...It really is a TAD sharper.....but am struggling to get them damn B-frames to work without causing abberative mutalations/mutations/anomaly's ....
Especially with interlaced content.....

Anyone mastered them yet ?
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:mrgreen: I tried encoding using xvid too and the results were none to satisfying.I would like to rip one just to say I was able to do it sometime and actually come up wth a decent rip.I know its possible because I have a few that are xvid that are really good quality...I guess it's just a matter of searching out nfo's on how to properly config it.I generally use the Vfapi plug in on dvd2avi then use vdub to encode with the new version of divx(5.5?)..it takes about 4 to 5 hours.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 10:58 am  Post subject:
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Have done multiple Xvid encoding jobs of one movie trailer....
Each time leaving out a option........(b-frames,vhq etc.)

I gotta confess something : yes, the movie's dark and I'm watching in a bright room ; yes , I don't have much time to thoroughly analyze them right now ; yes , I'm watching this right now on some 17' aged piece of junk but I'll be Damned if I can make out a significant difference between the 5 versions !

Anyone here who has done xvid who had similar experiences ?

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