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PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:50 am **Post subject:** Upgrade time shortly

So it's time to get some opinions.

I'm looking @ new CPU, mobo and gfx, the only real question is : a64 or x2-64 CPU

it would be an x2 3800+, an a64-4000+ or an Opteron 150 they will all overclock like crazy, the 3800+ by a MASSIVE 700mhz and the 4000+ / opteron will o/c to the same speed as an fx-57.
As there are so few multi threaded apps I'm leaning towards the 4000+ / opteron but I'm looking for some opinions.

Given that all I really use the machine for is gaming, video encoding and emulation I'm not sure I'd gain anything at all from the Dual cores, and I can always upgrade to one later if needs be

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:29 pm **Post subject:**

personally x2-64? although i got a a64-4000+ quite a while back and its still kills everything.

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:00 pm **Post subject:**

The main reason for me NOT to go for x2 is that for most things dual cores wont make any difference at all, therefore for the same money a bigger performance increase can be gained with a single core 4000+.

I'd be intrigued to see any evidence that I should go for the dual core as ATM there's nothing much to support it (outside of photoshop)

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:08 pm **Post subject:**

atm, power apps will be dual core very shortly into this next hardware generation.

Of course, linux will be the most active front for more powerful applications again.

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:30 pm **Post subject:**

MMM, Thing is by the time it actuall matters it'll be cheaper, I think the 4000+ is the one for me

That and a nice new 7800 :beerchug:

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:06 pm **Post subject:**

well as i said, i got a 4000+ and it slaughters anything i've tried to use, and i do stuff like java, c++ development... got another machine for video since speeds not normally that important.

Just remember next year ps3 is multicore, and you know how pc game makers fight back when new consoles come out. If your planning on upgrading again next year or something, then it won't really matter i guess.

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:16 pm **Post subject:**

The CPU can be changed next year, that's not a problem

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:48 pm **Post subject:**

mmm, mind change. It looks like the x2 3800+ can be overclocked on air easily to 2.4ghz (.4 over stock) at which point it's pretty much identical to the 4000+ on single threaded and wipes the floor with it on multi threaded.

The only thing that makes me not 100% sure is the 4000+ is reportedly easy to O/C to the level of the FX57.....

OK I talked myself round and went for the x2-3800 :lol:

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:13 am **Post subject:**

Next question (I suppose aimed at Spud) are you running xp-64?

If so did you mule the release, good point bad points etc.
If not, why not?

George Tatum · **Posted:** Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:24 am **Post subject:**

I downloaded XP64 from Usenet but deleted it because I realised that there was no benefit without 64 bit apps to run on it and too much stuff was likely to stop working due to lack of 64 bit drivers etc.

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:36 pm **Post subject:**

Aah, ok sounds like one to avoid for the time being then. Thanks George

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:27 pm **Post subject:**

no, but only because the build i had had a bug in it, i think it was pre-retail.

Its supposed to be very hard to crash some apps in 64 though, IE is supposed to be rather more stable and what not.

Problem is there's some compatability problems and driver support is laughable.

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:07 pm **Post subject:**

2-0 to windows xp-32 then

I think that's enough to convince me, thanks

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:21 pm **Post subject:**

bare in mind, i can guarantee me and at a guess george haven't tried it for quite some time now, who knows, Jesus himself might have put in some time with the Kernal :wacky:

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:28 pm **Post subject:**

I might try a dual boot sys and see, time is (as ever) the limiting factor though

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:02 pm **Post subject:**

well personally, since you've got no files, I'd try win64, then if its still crap, just reformat with win32. Saves clogging up your GRUB or whatever bootmanager of win is called...

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:00 pm **Post subject:**

I'm going to download the 120 day trial direct from M$, I assume there's a crack around for that somewhere?

If anyone has one, can they point me in the right direction please?

TaKYoN · **Posted:** Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:10 pm **Post subject:**

Not a huge amount of help PCA, but my bruv has worked with several 64 bit systems, and he says that XP64 is cool. LOL that was all he said.

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:28 pm **Post subject:**

Helpful as ever Tak.......

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:47 pm **Post subject:**

OK all up and running, with one fairly serious problem, I had a RAID 0 600Gb setup on a Silicon image controller, I can't seem to get it working with the Nvidia controller on the KN8 SLI, HELP!!!

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