i am on a quest to see how far our species has gone. what is the most offensive film ever? "offensive" can mean violence, sex, religion, etc. or any combination of offensive things.
i imagine it will be something of or related to the horror genre, but if it's from another genre, list it too, no matter how obscure.

"Commercially"? Nekromantik? Guinea Pig?
It's too wide a question though - The most offensive to me (and I would imagine many others) would be child pornography.

I agree with PC_A.

Commercially, I'd say something like August Underground or Mordum.

Offensive is a very subjective description though. One man's definition of offensive would differ wildly from someone else's.

real footage always is more offensive...

between the borders of what is legally allowed i'd say things like Squirmfest, red room, guinea pig, ... or whatever sicko pornflick with scat or so involved.... but what is offensive? Some people like to eat shit while others think david hasselhoff is more horror than the avaerga zombie/cannibal/autopsyflick...


why are you on a quest for the worst flicks anyway? Look around here and there a bit..after a while you see enough sicko movies come by and you can decide for yourself


grtz cyber

True...I'm pretty much desensitized when it comes to these so-called offensive movies (except for childporn), but reality can hit you in the face like a baseball-bat!

I'll go with this

i'm on this quest because i'm bored. but yeah i've seen (and enjoyed) all the movies you fellas mentioned (aside from kiddie porn....).
i realize that offensive is a very broad and subjective category, and that's partly why i asked the question. i was just interested to see some other views.
this forum seems to have a lot of people who, like me, are pretty desensitized to things that the general public would find shocking/offensive. knowing that, i wanted to get a feel for what you guys thought about the subject.
i definitely agree that real footage is more offensive than movies.

and how bout some nice hospi-cam autopsies??

I don't have a particular movie that i find offensive.
When ever it's about mutilating people (in one way or another) "reality" or "non-reality" i don't find that very offensive (exception made for those child porn f*ckers). However seeing animal mutilation can really tickle me into doing something i might not better do.


Cheers

yup, try some waterlily/indigestibles autopsy rips... the first time i got their releases it was like: wtf???? but after a few you get the feeling like..ok, i've seen this and its just another body been cut into pieces...


lately i got the OBDUKTIO "instruction" tape and that left quit an impression, a doctor cut a body litteraly into pieces in the name of "science". Seeing someone cut a humans organs into little pieces of meat just for the camera was pretty intense i think...


another file that also was quit impressive is the "Diraja Para A Vida" documentary tape. I know some people really get a hard one from this kind of footage but to me its more something my curiosity forces me to watch, but it also makes me feel a bit uncomfortable. Seeing someone throw real body parts on a pile after a big car accident ( i forgot if it was an explosion or a accident?) was very extreme i think...



but, yeah, what is extreme? Question is more for yourself: why do you want to watch something? Does it turn you on or are you bored because you've seen it all? To me the border is that it still has to be movie, if it comes to real murders and stuff i pass, of course there is some mondo, but all those people who think its cool to watch someones throat being really cut or shot are either trying to be "cool or true" or are just real sick....


anyway, just my two cents...


grtz cyber


/me goes looking for some sicko files to release...



ps: personnaly i think the last year has been great with more sick flicks than ever turning up, just when you thought you had seen it all someone releases something like a menstruating dwarf dressed as a naziclown that shits worms and then forces someone being bondaged and tortured on a rasting fire to eat it while watching mcguyver or something....

I think that "xtream" or "offensive" come to how the film triggers your own personal life. I mean The film funny games really freaked me out, not so much because of the content but because of what was going on in my life. We had just had our first kid. I've seen lots of fils with more gore, or siko topics but that film had an edge to it of realisum and coinsided with my father instincts getting switched on for the first time.

So like cybersatan said if you are just board looking for a thrill you might not find it. You might wounder why you are NOT getting freaked out. I just think that a film that can freak you out at one point in your life will not have much of an effect latter.

Nekromantik

Pretty basic here really, like the others, anything with kids is fucked up. Mind you, I generally have a problem with anything that is forced upon another person.

As for commercially made films, nothing has really offended me. I mean Titanic offended me, but only because it was not edited down to 3 minutes. That film is one steaming pile of shite.

I guess I am just way too used to all the fucked up shit around me, I have never shyed away from anything, and always believed exposure to some crap is needed to keep a foot in reality.

Actual movie wise, Salo is pretty harsh:
http://www.dead-donkey.com/modules/shar ... ies&id=150

I wouldn't say its worst, but its pretty controversial

Slaughtered Vomit dolls is pretty fucked up

(VERY boring between gore / vomit scenes though)

Most offensive to me would be any remake made in the last 10 or so years.
Salo has some pretty fucked up scenes in it that is for sure.At this point in my like though it would be very hard for me to find any movie that truly disgusts me...unless it is homosexual gangbang stuff...or child porn like PC_A said.I guess one movie sticks out in my mind as the worst and that is a little porn flick I like to call the human mop...Never have I seen coprophilia taken with such enthusiasm as in that movie...towards the end of the film she literally is a human mop getting fucked in her shit encrusted ass in a pool of her own (and everyone else's) enema.Her hair and her positioning resemble someone trying to mop up a large toilet backflow.
As far as Slaughter vomit dolls,stethoscope and the others of that ilk to the normal viewer it would probably leave a psychological scar on them but my tastes shall we say have become more hardened over the last few years...not bragging here as it probably means that I am all fucked up in my thinking..but hell...this site will do that to you after a while...especially after watching Monster Squad.

I rarely find anything in movies offensive, and I make it a point not to.. at least in the sense of it being offensive outside the bounds of entertainment. I guess it is hard to be truly offended when you look at everything as a potential source of entertainment.

Ah, but I do find most comedies offensive, simply because they tend to insult my intelligence. I would much rather watch something that is unintentionally funny, or actually requires a little thought on your part to find it funny.

i think the biggest problem with finding an extremely offensive movie is that most material with that intention isnt actually a movie, as much as it is just constructed portrayals of acts captured on video.

Is August Underground: Mordum, a movie? If yes, then its obvious as to why its #1 as IGN's sickest movie ever made. Remember the decapitated baby covered in maggots? If I had paid money to see that in the theater, with the understanding that I am subjecting myself to a directors vision with the trust that he wont go too far, then I would have been fucking pissed. PC_A brought up the fact about child porn, but remember the underage teen's dead body getting raped in the bath tub? Ive never seen anyone mention that or get pissed off enough to talk about it. Yet, everyone here lists child porn as the most offensive. It wasnt real, but should that stand as its defense?

However. If no, then I can appreciate all of the work and talent that went into the sfx make-up, but im not going to allow myself to experience it like actual movies with a narrative and elaborate cinematography. So, when they make attempts to come up with the most offensive act they can think of, its pointless because im fully aware of it, and it has no effect. Its just a project that some guys with interests in sfx make-up put together so that they could make everything look as "real", "bad-ass", or as "hardcore" as possible.

Ive seen alot of posts about the animal violence in Cannibal Holocaust, which is real. And as mentioned before, real footage will generaly always be more offensive. But again, should it be taken into consideration as part of the movie if it actually IS real footage? I for one dont think so and anyone who encourages it might be responsible for more unnecessary cruelty of the same kind in future films.

Current shitfests, which were recently released, to avoid would be "movies" like Murder-Set-Pieces or Slaughter Vomit Dolls. They are just wastes of time put together by talentless assholes trying their best to convince you that they somehow they will gain more and more credibility with every bucket of blood that they can poor onto their actors. I get so pissed off about "movies" like that because gorehounds actually give them credit for it. Heres my question to them and their fans, why isnt it possible to make a movie that is actually decent AND has that much gore? Here my answer; Because no one with talent has come along in that sub-genre, yet.

So that is my opinion on the matter of what is "offensive." As far as suggestions, im currently dl'ing Subconscious Cruelty and Cannibal Ferox. I will follow the suggestion of Necromantik and try to find that.

Otherwise, here is that list from IGN i mentioned;

http://horrorbrain.ign.com/index.php?op ... mitstart=1

ive seen most of them, you can skip Aftermath if youre going to watch Mordum. Im assuming youve probably seen all of them though.

Im thinking about starting a group for those interested in tracking down the most rare "horror" movies in existance. I watched Cigarette Burns last night and it really motivated me to look further than all of these rare movies we talk about, that are floating around just under the surface. I would like to assemble a "dream team" of enthusiasts who would be interested.

sorry for all the quotation marks btw.

But movies like the August Underground series are just laughable. They arn't shocking in the same way that you mate at the pub saying "Fuck you cunt I'm going to tear your fuckn eyes out if you hit the black ball in on this shot" isn't shocking.

I mean they are good flicks for a gore fest, but there is no way that you can ever take them seriously. I think for a flick to be truly horrific it needs plot. There needs to be some connection that makes the viewer give a hoot.

Like real footage a good flick makes you think about the motives and feelings of the people on the screen and THAT makes what it horrific for me. Intent, motive etc.

Try Mutilation Man