Fear Itself, I agree, the reason for not mentioning August Underground: Mordum is that I didn't get that far into it, the constant screaming and shouting and godawful camerawork did my fucking head in and I turned it off (the same holds true for Slaughtered Vomit Dolls, although I ffwd'ed to the end, rather than just turning it off).

In fact, August Underground: Mordum, Slaughtered Vomit Dolls etc IMHO aren't really movies, they're more of a show reel for the f/x people. Beyond genre notoriety, it's unlikely Fred Vogel and his ilk are going to acheive much, as judging by their currently available output they're just not talented enough.

The difference with films such as Cannibal Holocaust and Nekromantik, and even Autopsy is that they are movies with a reason for being made beyond that of just showing off your f/x, also from a watchers POV the directors actually had control and obviously thought over how things were shot and how they would look as opposed to just pointing a $300 camcorder in the vague direction of the "action".

Salo, Cannibal Holocaust, Autopsy and Nekromantic are decent films which may or may not shock you, you should watch them anyway though

I think that it mostly boils down to individual taste.What would offend some people would give others a stiffy.So the answers given in responce to this question are going to be biased to the person responding.

That is totally what I think... if the film sux ass you are never going to be in a state where you "believe" it.



True but the hope of this thread is to provide a bunch of flicks that can at least test you.

Not only that, but it's opened up an interesting conversation

I'll withold judgement on that until after The Redsin Tower is released. It will be ToeTag's first "proper" movie.

I've changed my post to reflect that news

to me, the worst i ever seen, was salo...

i remembered another extreme "movie" and have even bought it on dvd today ( thank you ebay)...




as some of you know im a historyteacher and somewhere during the study a teacher showed us this tape ( im for 95% sure it was this tape but then on vhs...), it contains about an hour of footage from the liberation of auschwitz, you see corpses being thrown into massagraves with bulldozers and VERY horrible things, this one really made an impression on me...

do i like it? no! did it leave an impression as worst movieimages i ever saw? i think so....




but, this raises the question, is this a movie? Probably not, more like a documentary.



grtz cyber

hey, not to get off topic but i sent you a pm, Cyber, about finding a copy of "Diraja Para A Vida" to check out. i did a pretty extensive search for it but couldnt find anything. im guessing its one that has been forgotten and lost forever?

Interested too.

ok, i'll up it....

f00kin sweet! im nominating you for HHAH Member of the Month

its already up in the LQ section, grab it now since i have some slots free

i just now saw that

*continues conversation in appropriate thread*

First off, DxaKrator, this "human mop" you speak of sounds hilarious. Where can i find it?

Second off, this has turned into a cool discussion. I found Mordum laughable too. That said, it had some cool scenes.

As for me, I have yet to find a film offensive as well (to whomever else has said this).

I disagree with the guy that said no one with any talent has emerged from this sub-genre. I guess that depends on both what your definition of this sub-genre encompasses, and what your definition of "talent" is. I thought the second Guinea Pig was a great movie. Sure, it had no plot...but who says movies have to have plots?

I guess the bottom line for me is that movies are entertainment. Personally, I derive far more entertainment from, say, Squirmfest, than I do from The Shawshank Redemption/The Godfather/Casablanca/Insert "classic" film here. Offensive or not, this genre of film is sure as hell fun to watch.

I think you're referring to my comments about Fred Vogel etc, it was aimed at the "directors" of the recent american movies which consist of running around (or shaking the camera round) with a camcorder screaming whilst your undoubtedly talented f/x team work somewhere in front of you. It's the directorial skill i'm questioning not the skill of the f/x people etc.

Guinea pig (all of them) are fairly well directed as well as being incredible from an f/x point of view, not only that, but they are all watchable, which Mordum certainly isn't (at least not to me).

A movie certainly doesn't need a plot, but it does help if they are interesting enough to actually watch.

Blair Witch has a plot, it's a shit film though and at least partially responsible for all this cheap camcorder shit being made now.

I agree that Vogel is a shitty ass director as far as quality film-making is concerned. Where we differ is that I found Mordum very watchable (I found the first AU horribly boring though).
There were a couple things I liked about Mordum. As you said, the effects were awesome. In my mind, those alone give the film sufficient merit.
Also, funnily enough, I liked it for a reason you disliked it. The direction/narrative was just so preposterously stupid. It was so obviously the result of that fat ass Vogel sitting in a room with his idiot friends just trying to think up ways to gross people out. My angle on the movie is that it's just so ridiculous that it becomes enjoyable.

Tough to find something offensive for me.. Ok child porn is sick and I avoid it but human body mutilation is always nice

What I did find offensive was "Troy" since I'm a big fan of Homer's original epic and this simply tries to tell people who read it is that they're idiots... Also offensive is "Alexander the Great" because it's a total gay movie. Next thing they're gonna do (you never know) is make gay porn with every historical figure that existed... Disgusting. It's quite offensive in my opinion to make history so damn disgusting in modern movies. In a perverse way...

Yeah but Alexander himself was a noted queen..Most greeks banged men as much as they did women in that day...Read the history on the guy..great conqueror but as queer as a 3 dollar bill.

I am not sure where I put "Human Mop"..and not sure where to grab it again..the thing is it was about a 15 minute clip from a whole movie...I can't even imagine what 60 minutes plus of that shit is like. I will look around though cuase if it sicks me out I know it will pretty much every member here...except for the ones that are into that sort of thing..I wonder who I am talkign about here..he knows who he is.

Yea.. same goes for the Iliad. That "cousin" in the movie Troy.. is in fact his gay lover. To make the film less "history so damn disgusting" they turned him into a womanizer, sleeping with multiblue chicks... instead of a raving queen who only banged that chick as a way to insult the trojins and the gods.