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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:59 am Post subject: Marquis (1989) (Topor - Xhonneux)(Muppet Porn)(DVD) |
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IMDb - 6.8/10 (59 votes)
Quote: | MARQUIS Rating: Plot: A dog, the Marquis, has been imprisoned in The Bastille for his notoriously pornographic writings. He has conversations with Colin, his penis, who dislikes the Marquis? writings. The rooster governor Gaetan de Preaubois discovers that the cow Justine is pregnant with the king?s child. To save the king embarrassment, de Preaubois and the Dom Pimpero conspire to have Justine placed in the Marquis?s cell where they can then claim the notoriously depraved libertine forced himself upon her. But instead Justine is moved by the Marquis?s prose and the two fall for one another. Revolutionaries want to free the Marquis?s neighbour, the police chief Lupino who imprisoned the Marquis, and the Marquis agrees to give into the rat guard Ambert?s desire to be buggared for the good of the revolution. But he then finds difficulty persuading Colin to accept the task. At the same time Dom Pimpero has found he can make money by selling the Marquis?s pornographic writings without his knowledge, but has difficulty getting his hands on new material.Marquis comes from the fertile mind of the late Belgian director, writer, novelist and theatrical director Roland Topor. Topor also co-wrote and designed the great French animated sf film Fantastic Planet (1973), and wrote the novel that became the basis of Roman Polanski?s marvelously paranoid The Tenant (1976). He can also be seen playing Renfield in Werner Herzog?s Nosferatu the Vampyre (1979). Marquis could be described as a crossbreed between Quills (2000) and Meet the Feebles (1990). It?s a reenactment - albeit a loose one - of the life of the Marquis de Sade and the French Revolution - all conducted by puppets, puppets that are decidedly less than Disney or Henson-like. The fact that one of the central characters in the film is the Marquis?s talking penis should give one an idea of where the film is centered. Marquis makes for fascinating comparison to Quills. Both cover essentially the same territory - de Sade?s imprisonment. (But where Quills is set around de Sade?s later imprisonment in the Charenton asylum, Marquis concerns itself with his earlier incarceration in The Bastille, although it is historically inaccurate here in that de Sade had been moved prior to the Bastille?s storming). Both get inside de Sade?s urge to write no matter what, using sheets and his own blood, although Marquis makes far less melodramatic fuss about the frustrated creative urge than Quills does. Both are also quite sympathetic portraits of de Sade - in fact Marquis goes even further than Quills in seeing de Sade as essentially a peaceable man more interested in the letters than depravity. The film takes a Romantic position - in fact a quite Manichean one - of a man of intellect and letters warring with his sexual drive (and even has an end when his penis takes off to find a life of its own). Although in truth de Sade knew no such restraint, felt no such war between mind and flesh. His work could not be regarded as something pure and aside from his baser urges - his urges plainly overran his work, it was construed as pornography simple and unadulterated. Marquis has quite a literate script in its satiric take on the Revolution. But where it succeeds the most is in the outrageous joy of its obscene puppets. (Although these aren?t puppets so much as they are actors wearing animal heads, not unakin to a panto version of The Wind in the Willows). The faces are surprisingly fluid and expressive. There are some outrageously entertaining scenes like where the Marquis fucks a hole in a talking wall with his penis; or where he buggars a guard with a lobster; or the guard masturbating milk from the cow heroine?s udders. There are animated visions of a spider becoming an octet of spread female thighs, or a coffin going into the ground becoming an ooutrageous image of it fucking the Earth. Scabrous, brilliant, a classic. [ http://www.moria.co.nz/fantasy/marquis.htm ] OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSet on the eve of the French Revolution, "Marquis" is unbridled bestiality in wig and powder. Imagine Jim Henson's Muppets or the cast of "Animal Farm" whipped into a lewd frenzy by David Cronenberg and you'll have some idea about this French movie. Based on the writings of the Marquis de Sade, this bawdy, one-of-a-kind production features human bodies in puppet-like animal heads, experiencing various throes of sexual, moral and political decadence in and around the famous Bastille prison. [...] It is intriguing to experience this alternate universe, a world of animalistic craziness created by director Henri Xhonneux and graphic (literally) artist Roland Topor. But there is no towering, transcendent quality to the movie. For the most part, despite that satire, it's a whimsical, one-dimensional titillation of the senses. But it does have its amusing elements. At the end, for instance, when the prison doors are opened, look for Colin to make a clean break. [ http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/st ... a0aefb.htm ] OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMy downfall was not caused by my way of thinking?but that of others -- Marquis de SadeIn the annals of history, there have been few men more misunderstood than Donatien Alphonse Francois de Sade. The mere mention of the ?Divine Marquis? often conjures up but one image, even in today?s society, that being the father of the term ?sadism?. However, Sade was more than a man with some extreme sexual appetites?he was an author (his works caused scandal throughout France with their pornographic subject matter and controversial commentary on society), a playwright, a philosopher, and even something of a politician during the Revolution (despite the fact that he?d been a noble all his life and felt himself above the common man). He also spent much of his life in various prisons (in fact, he died in an institution), wrongly imprisoned by a vindictive mother-in-law for displeasing her (and having an affair with his wife?s sister). In 1989, French filmmaker Henri Xhonneux would release his film, Marquis, a movie that would attempt to show Sade in a slightly more humanistic light?the irony being that to show Sade as human, he?d resort to literally putting an animal face on the man himself. Marquis is often referred to as ?an adult version of The Muppets set in pre-revolutionary France? or a film along the lines of Peter Jackson?s raunchy muppet flick Meet the Feebles. And while Marquis does feature human actors clad in puppet-like animal heads, I find that comparing it to either The Muppets or Meet the Feebles does Xhonneux?s film a grave disservice. [...] In a film like this, the acting almost seems secondary (particularly when you consider that all the thespians are hidden behind animal masks). However, everyone does a credible job here managing to blur the line between animal and human. These aren?t simply humans with animal faces?the actors do attempt to portray some of their character?s animal traits in their actions (most notably the rat-faced Ambert who slouches and slinks his way through every scene he?s in). This ultimately makes the film even more surrealistic. [...] [ http://culturedose.net/review.php?rid=10002562 ] |
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Marquis (Xhonneux & Topor - 1989).DVDRip.avi, 655Mb video: 640x400 01:19:18 25fps XviD 1Mbps audio: 48KHz 01:19:18 Stereo 130Kbps mp3
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My rip, from the brand-newly telecined DVD french edition . The rip came out very well, I used the largest resolution I could, and for the quality take a look at the caps below .
Curiously, for a film about the Marquis, the DVD informs me that:" Cette DVD est exclusivement reserv? a l'usage priv? et gratuit dans le cercle de la famille"...
Maybe you see the irony here, using the family as the trenched territory of legality
Otoh, "you're my real family", so we're safe
THE LINK:
Marquis (Xhonneux & Topor - 1989).DVDRip.avi
ENGLISH and FRENCH (CC) VOBSUBS:
Marquis - English Subs.tar.bz2 Marquis - French Subs.tar.bz2
ENGLISH SUBS (DIRECT LINK):
Extratitles
[ Add all 3 links to your ed2k client ]
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Master Of The Dead Donkey Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2004 8:34 pm Posts: 759
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DxaKrator wrote: | You don't know how happy you just made my wife... |
"HHAH, entertainment for the whole family"
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, Trep. I can always count on you for something interesting.
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH! this is a must get.... thanks *click*
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Looks interesting, *click*!
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Polityk
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:52 am Post subject: |
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Now, when you figure out some way to play it in windows other than with VLC, let me know...
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:27 am Post subject: |
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Shit, your right Polityk....I get nothing either What codecs you use trep?I know Xvid but what version?
Gspot spit this out:
Code: | --- File Information --- File Name: Marquis (Xhonneux & Topor - 1989).DVDRip.avi File Name (with full path): D:\eMule0.30d-sivka.v10d7-bin\incoming\Marquis (Xhonneux & Topor - 1989).DVDRip.avi File Size (in bytes): 687,776,018 --- Container Information --- Base Type (e.g "AVI"): AVI(.AVI) Subtype (e.g "OpenDML"): AVI v1.0, Interleave (in ms): 40 Preload (in ms): 504 Audio alignment("split across interleaves"): Aligned Total System Bitrate (kbps): 0 Bytes Missing (if any): 0 Number of Audio Streams: 1 --- Video Information --- Video Codec Type(e.g. "DIV3"): XVID Video Codec Name(e.g. "DivX 3, Low-Motion"): XviD Video Codec Status(e.g. "Codec Is Installed"): Codec(s) are Installed Duration (hh:mm:ss): 01:19:18 Frame Count: 118955 Frame Width (pixels): 640 Frame Height (pixels): 400 Frame Aspect Ratio (e.g "1.3333"): Frame Aspect Ratio (e.g. "4:3"): Pixel Aspect Ratio ("SAR"): Display Aspect Ratio ("DAR"): 1.600 Frames Per Second: ***ERROR*** Video Bitrate (kbps): 1051 MPEG-4 ("MPEG-4" or ""): MPEG-4 B-VOP ("B-VOP" or ""): B-VOP QPel ("QPel" or ""): QPel GMC ("GMC" or ""): H264 ("H264" or ""): MPEG-2 ("MPEG-2" or ""): Interlaced ("I/L" or ""): Progressive ("Prog" or ""): Top Frame First ("TFF" or ""): Bottom Frame First ("BFF" or ""): 3:2 Pulldown ("3:2" or ""): Picture-per-field ("PPF" or ""): - Aspect Ratio Related: Broadcast standard: "PAL" (else blank) Broadcast standard: "NTSC" (else blank) src:"VCD", "SVCD", "CVD", or "DVD (else blank): Instructions to convert to VCD, first part: Instructions to convert to VCD, second part: Instructions to convert to SVCD, first part: Instructions to convert to SVCD, second part: Instructions to convert to CVD, first part: Instructions to convert to CVD, second part: Instructions to convert to DVD, first part: Instructions to convert to DVD, second part: Instructions to convert to AVI, first part: Instructions to convert to AVI, second part: --- Audio Information --- MPEG Stream ID (e.g. "0xbd"): MPEG VOB file Substream(e.g. "0x80"): Audio Codec (e.g. "AC3"): 0x0055(MP3, ISO) MPEG-1 Layer 3 Audio Codec Status (e.g. "Codec Is Installed"): Codec(s) are Installed Audio Sample Rate (Hz): 48000 Audio Bitrate(kbps): 130 Audio Bitrate Type ("CBR" or "VBR"): VBR Audio Channel Count (e.g. "2" for stereo): 2
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:19 am Post subject: |
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Master Of The Dead Donkey Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2004 8:34 pm Posts: 759
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With all my rips, I have mixed reports with them working or not working in Windows with any other player than VLC. VLC works because it comes with its own codecs and it manages them separately from the operating system. I've done some research and it seems it boils down to some subtle incompatibilities between *some builds* of XviD for Windows and XviD for Linux, so today may not work, tomorrow when you upgrade/downgrade it may work again. But now, what should I do? I'm no expert, but I can see that XviD works better for quality, and the movies I rip usually are not the kind of which you're going to find another rip in a couple of months, so I think it would be wrong to choose my codec/encoding options based on windows-problems or standalone problems which may be solved in a short time (btw, a friend of mine plays my rips on his (cheap) standalone smoothly, go figure). The alternative would be go back to less quality codecs, but I don't think I'll do it.
I see GSPOT says "error" on the fps field. I'll try to look into that. If anyone more expert than me can see a way out this situation that I swear annoys me A LOT, please help me.
But anyway, what's wrong with VLC?
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Dead But Dreaming Joined: Sat Aug 28, 2004 12:40 pm Posts: 333
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hi,
do you use transcode or mencoder?
i dont know about the differences in xvid builds, but on the broken avi header field you can try this (from the transcode package):
tcprobe -i file.avi
if you dont see 25 in the fps field too, you can try:
avifix -i file.avi -f 25,1
(assuming the fps is 25)
this fixes the avi header only.
did all 2 of the encoding passes go well? if you scripted the whole thing, maybe the first pass went not so well but the output scrolled up at the start of the second pass.
did you launch the process this way:
transcode/mencoder ... pass 1 ... &&
transcode/mencoder ... pass 2 ....
?
(notice the &&, i.e. the second pass starts only if the first pass exited with an ok status)
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trep
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Master Of The Dead Donkey Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2004 8:34 pm Posts: 759
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tweye wrote: | hi, do you use transcode or mencoder? i dont know about the differences in xvid builds, but on the broken avi header field you can try this (from the transcode package):
tcprobe -i file.avi |
Hi Tweye, thanks a lot for the reply. Tcprobe says: Code: | [tcprobe] RIFF data, AVI video [avilib] V: 25.000 fps, codec=XVID, frames=118955, width=640, height=400 [avilib] A: 48000 Hz, format=0x55, bits=0, channels=2, bitrate=130 kbps, [avilib] 198276 chunks, 77490696 bytes, VBR [tcprobe] summary for Marquis (Xhonneux & Topor - 1989).DVDRip.avi, (*) = not default, 0 = not detected import frame size: -g 640x400 [720x576] (*) frame rate: -f 25.000 [25.000] frc=3 audio track: -a 0 [0] -e 48000,0,2 [48000,16,2] -n 0x55 [0x2000] (*) bitrate=130 kbps length: 118955 frames, frame_time=40 msec, duration=1:19:18.200 |
So, as long as I can see, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the header - as I said, no problem with *any* linux program and some windows installations can play it. Quote: | did all 2 of the encoding passes go well? |
Yes, I do it all by hand and I check & I check again (I use mencoder from the command line). It all went smoothly.
My best guess would be: somewhat xvid for linux and for windows use a slightly different format for the fps ?? Most windows users report a "sound and no image" problem, which would not be surprising if windows could not find out the fps.
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:31 am Post subject: |
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trep wrote: | I see GSPOT says "error" on the fps field. I'll try to look into that. If anyone more expert than me can see a way out this situation that I swear annoys me A LOT, please help me.
But anyway, what's wrong with VLC? |
It probably says error because of the template used to generate specs, the field designations change from version to version o GSpot, so some templates are simply incompatible (honestly, I have no idea why they are doing it). Correct me if I'm wrong, Dxa. So there probably is no problem with fps. My GSpot says it's 25.00, right before it crashes because of the file's incomaptibility.
VLS is inconvenient (AFAIR there are *huge* differences between Linux and Windows versions, but again, I might be wrong, never used the former). Besides, I'm used to the players I normally use, so it's double-inconvenient.
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:42 am Post subject: |
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I'm using ffdshow, and it doesn't play.
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Dead But Dreaming Joined: Sat Aug 28, 2004 12:40 pm Posts: 333
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trep wrote: | no problem with *any* linux program and some windows installations can play it.
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weird... we have to nail this bug!
sorry mate, i'm clueless.
the only thing i can think of is a brute force mass test, to see if a pattern comes out.
i mean: we can prepare a set of small samples encoded with various versions of xvid for linux, and make them test to as many windows users as possible (repording back the version of the codec used for playback).
when i come back this evening i can write down a script that automaticallly installs xvid from 0.9.1 to 1.0.3 (that's what gentoo has available atm) and prepares the various samples.
btw can you post the options used with mencoder?
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:11 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I used ffdshow and same as Polityk...No go....I will try VLC and see what happens...Never even used that before.
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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tweye wrote: | when i come back this evening i can write down a script that automaticallly installs xvid from 0.9.1 to 1.0.3 (that's what gentoo has available atm) and prepares the various samples. |
Yup, I'm clueless too. I've searched the net, the only solution I could find is "well, what's the problem, use lavc instead" I think I'll try to bring up the matter on xvid forum later - if nothing comes from there I could try to recompile mecoder with the newest xvid - but as this seems a long-standng problem I doubt recompling will solve it Btw, do you know if there is a way to use different xvid versions with mencoder wthout recompiling? I'm using 1.0.2 now . Maybe I'll go back to encoding in divx after all tweye wrote: | btw can you post the options used with mencoder? |
Sure, they were simple:
Code: | nice -n 19 /usr/local/bin/mencoder Marquis.VOB -o /dev/null -oac mp3lame -lameopts vbr=3:br=128:vol=1.513 -ovc xvid -xvidencopts bitrate=1150:max_bframes=2:vhq=2:qpel:psnr:autoaspect:pass=1 -vf scale=704:400,crop=640:400:32:0 --sws 2
nice -n 19 /usr/local/bin/mencoder Marquis.VOB -o Xhonneux-Topor-Marquis-2.avi -oac mp3lame -lameopts vbr=3:br=128:vol=1.513 -ovc xvid -xvidencopts bitrate=1150:max_bframes=2:vhq=2:qpel:psnr:autoaspect:pass=2 -vf scale=704:400,crop=640:400:32:0 --sws 2 |
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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trep wrote: | Btw, do you know if there is a way to use different xvid versions with mencoder wthout recompiling? |
Well, as long as the xvid version change doesnt imply a change in the API, i think you can swap the dynamic library under mencoder's feet without him noticing it
btw i think this practice is discouraged by every sane programmer
XviD 0.9.x (aka API 2.1 series) --> libxvidencore.so.2 runtime library
XviD 1.0.x series (aka API 4.0) --> libxvidcore.so.4 runtime library
(taken from the the manpage of transcode)
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Master Of The Dead Donkey Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2004 8:34 pm Posts: 759
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Anyway, on FH I had another report of this rip working on a standalone... I'm not biased against windows (well, maybe just a little), but this looks like a windows bug and not a linux bug
Maybe someone may want to try eMovix - it's a 7 MB linux distro with a windows proggie that creates a bootable CD with all you need to play a movie and the movie itself (this rip is 660MB so no probs), you just boot the computer with the CD in and the movie should play itself:
http://movix.sourceforge.net/
I never tried it, so if you use it please report.
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Polityk
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:20 am Post subject: |
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Shit, my shell crashes every time I mark the file or try to do anything with it. I've only had this once, when the file was split incorrectly; the second file of that release (don't remember which movie it was) caused my shell to crash the same way. I can't open it with subs using VLC, so I think I'm gooing to give up.
EDIT: Oh yes, this was Runaway Jury CD2, ripped by DCN.
http://www.fileheaven.org/forum/viewtop ... shes+frame
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