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PC_Arcade
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:59 am Post subject: |
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Mod of the Living Dead Joined: Thu Jul 24, 2003 12:16 pm Posts: 6898 Location: Desolation
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It's rare that dvds have true NTSC on them (I don't own any). Has anyone finshed this and is in a position to check?
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brohmabull79
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:11 am Post subject: |
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Buried In The Backyard Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:50 pm Posts: 16
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PC_Arcade wrote: | It's rare that dvds have true NTSC on them (I don't own any). Has anyone finshed this and is in a position to check? |
I should have it by tommorow (I hope). I could check.
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brohmabull79
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:31 am Post subject: |
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Buried In The Backyard Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:50 pm Posts: 16
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does anyone have this 100%? Ive been stuck on 97.3% for a day now.
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DxaKrator
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 8:38 am Post subject: |
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The Practice Girl Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2003 3:08 am Posts: 6099 Location: Back in the glistening folds of Barbara Bush's Twat
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Yeah I got it....I can pop it on here in a while..right now I have absolutely no room to spare.
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Dr Phibes
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:04 am Post subject: |
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The Devil, Probably Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:54 pm Posts: 1962 Location: UK
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It's never been out of share and my shared files says up to 10 full sources
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brohmabull79
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Buried In The Backyard Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:50 pm Posts: 16
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ah yep, you guys are right. I woke up today on 99.2%....Im new to this eMule thing (been a bittorrent man for a while but could never find old movies like this site has), Ive had the program on for 5 straight days now (with a high ID and have uploaded 13.5 GB, and my average download speed has been around 40 kb/s)....I guess I just need to be patient and wait my turn in the queue cycle to get the final .8% I need, which I am currently 27th in the QR).
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Dr Phibes
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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The Devil, Probably Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:54 pm Posts: 1962 Location: UK
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NP the thing about the mule is you have to be patient but as long as there is 1 full source you will get the file in the end
This movie will be shared for sooooo looooong
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brohmabull79
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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Buried In The Backyard Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:50 pm Posts: 16
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thanks phibes. I did get another copy of this movie but it was in Italian. Im so glad I was able to find this site and get an english version =)
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arkhane
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:09 am Post subject: |
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Blood Sucking Freak Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2004 4:16 pm Posts: 225 Location: Arkham Sanitorium
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at least 90% of NTSC DVDs you have to force film in dgindex if you wan't a proper rip
http://www.doom9.org/mpg/dgindex.htm
Quote: | Frame Rate = 29.970 fps: Let the preview run for a couple of minutes, then take a look at the Video Type: If it's FILM at a percentage higher or equal to 95% or if it only shows FILM you can activate Forced FILM as shown below. Otherwise you will have to perform IVTC (that process will be explained later on).
Frame Rate = 23.976 fps: This is the result of activating Forced FILM for an NTSC movie. If the Video Type is FILM or FILM at a percentage higher or equal to 95% you're all set. If the percentage is lower or the type is NTSC then you have to set Field Operation to None and perform IVTC (that process will be explained later on). |
@ brohmabull79
did you have subs to go with that italian rip ?
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DxaKrator
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:08 am Post subject: |
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The Practice Girl Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2003 3:08 am Posts: 6099 Location: Back in the glistening folds of Barbara Bush's Twat
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Which leaves a whopping 10%
You know it is possible...Looks like I am gonna have to burn this sucker and see for myself if its properly done or not I just did a few true NTSC films....So I know for a fact that it gets done..and not just on TV content.In MOST cases you want to go 23.97...but not EVERY case.Trust me on this....I actually have been doing this for a good while now.
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George Tatum
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Demon Of The Abyss Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2004 7:18 pm Posts: 1426 Location: A padded cell
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Looks like most of my NTSC rips are wrong then. I've not checked the guides for a long time and it used to say apply forced FILM if it's 29.970 fps which is what I've been doing all along.
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arkhane
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:15 am Post subject: |
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Blood Sucking Freak Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2004 4:16 pm Posts: 225 Location: Arkham Sanitorium
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yeah i was gonna say 99% but i knew you'd be answering this eh eh
it's true that there are a few exceptions, but they are quite rare, and usually with poorly produced dvds (i heard)
you see quite a few because you are interested in underground movies mainly i guess
just a question though, those true NTSC films, do they actually show as 100% NTSC in DGindex ?
cause i've never seen any of those... (probably cause i rip PAL mainly)
_________________ That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die. - Abdul Alhazred, Necromicon
When you can feel it in your chest, taking over your body and soul, this is when you understand the power of dub.
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DxaKrator
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:19 am Post subject: |
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The Practice Girl Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2003 3:08 am Posts: 6099 Location: Back in the glistening folds of Barbara Bush's Twat
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Yikes...yeah....at the very least some probably needed an IVTC instead of a forced film....It is all about counting frames and looking carefully at the interlaced content.
What I have been doing recently is making test files for all 3 options when It comes to ntsc.One for forced film,one for ivtc and one for interlaced ntsc...Somethimes I'll try different interlacing tests too.That way it is prety hard to go wrong with what your options are going to be.It may take a half hour out of my time....but better time wasted then a rip nuked for wrong encoding.
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DxaKrator
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:31 am Post subject: |
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The Practice Girl Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2003 3:08 am Posts: 6099 Location: Back in the glistening folds of Barbara Bush's Twat
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Yep...they show up as NTSC and interlaced frames...no percentages even added or even shown.most of the time when it flips back and forth like that to NTSC and then film in DGindex it will be an IVTC.
And yeah...it is true..the lower the source the more chance you are gonna run into this sort of thing...except last night....guess I might as well anounce this one coming now....We did a rip of the new release fo Mandingo...the movie comes from Digital Exploitation as the source.After Fighting and fighting with it I finally had to resolve that it WAS an NTSC and did the rip accordingly...looks great....every other option I tried produced serious stuttering or obvious left in interlacing.
By the way...I never really pay attention to what DGIndex spits out anymore for me..it is frequently wrong....I did that movie last night and it was a 16:9 but DGIndex reported 4:3.Doing another movie right now that DID require an IVTC but that spit out another true ntsc format at me.No progressive frames or anything it said.That is why it is best to kind of do it yourself and make sure.I actually went to spud about Mandingo cause I was so frustrated.He made a comment that has resinated with me since he made it....It is all so true.
Quote: | urgghh i hate ntsc, americans should be lined up and shot for that crap. |
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George Tatum
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:51 am Post subject: |
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Demon Of The Abyss Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2004 7:18 pm Posts: 1426 Location: A padded cell
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Fortunately most of my rips have been PAL, not had any complaints about the few that were NTSC
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DxaKrator
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:43 am Post subject: |
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The Practice Girl Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2003 3:08 am Posts: 6099 Location: Back in the glistening folds of Barbara Bush's Twat
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Yeah.....If I get a choice it is always PAL....NTSC is just lame.Unfortunately my choices are limited to where I go for my stuff and special order imports if I want PAL.
To be honest though George....I don't remember any bad rips you ever have done...If they have been LQ it is becuase of the source material you are working with and not the encode so I think you are pretty well safe on all that. STR knows all about low quality sources
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brohmabull79
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Buried In The Backyard Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:50 pm Posts: 16
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arkhane wrote: | @ brohmabull79did you have subs to go with that italian rip ? |
nope, it was just an italian language version. If you search eMule it will bring up that version with something like 60 available I dont exactly remember (Umberto Lenzi - Mangiati Vivi - 1980 - Versione Integrale.avi)
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realdiqqer
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Servant Of The Dead Donkey Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:12 pm Posts: 81
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Ba5tarD
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Servant Of The Dead Donkey Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:54 pm Posts: 72 Location: Israel
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realdiqqer wrote: | german or english subs? thanks |
I'm also interested in eng subs...
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Dr Phibes
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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The Devil, Probably Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:54 pm Posts: 1962 Location: UK
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There were no subs on the dvd
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