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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:42 pm Post subject: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc. |
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What's the best media player hardware these days? if I were not to build a PC that is...
My expectation is anything I am able to acquire on the inter-webs from hdtv binary newsgroups, etc. would work out of the box, along with subs, etc.
ps. I have no interest what so ever in bluray, it is such a none issue format for me.
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Vae Victis
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc. |
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Demon Of The Abyss Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:01 pm Posts: 1130
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Have been looking at EGreat EG-M34A for a while. Seems to have the options you're looking for.
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:45 pm Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc. |
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killmoney
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:45 am Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc. |
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Mummified In Barbed Wire Joined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:25 am Posts: 119 Location: detroit
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Vae Victis
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:22 am Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc. |
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Demon Of The Abyss Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:01 pm Posts: 1130
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killmoney wrote: | http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=572 |
did you look at the specs? this one doesn't cut it.
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MCMLXXXVIII
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc. |
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The Ancient One Joined: Sat Sep 20, 2003 9:40 pm Posts: 2523 Location: In a dark room...
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Vae Victis wrote: | killmoney wrote: | http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=572 |
did you look at the specs? this one doesn't cut it. |
I have one of these and it plays all the major formats, what in your opinion is missing?
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Vae Victis
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc. |
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Demon Of The Abyss Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:01 pm Posts: 1130
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doesn't support dts downsample for one. Yes it does play the major formats, but it's underpowered for the heavy hd work. plus a media player should be able to play stuff from the network.
But the price is pretty okey for what you get! it's good, but just not the mediaplayer. (not saying that the one I've posted is the one) It's really too bad it's lacking/missing just a couple of features to make it the media player it should be (could've been).
Plus it doesn't support nzb downloads, which is one of the things spud wanted.
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elguaxo
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:02 pm Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc. |
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Master Of The Dead Donkey Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:01 pm Posts: 708
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elchupacabra
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc. |
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The Ancient One Joined: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:31 am Posts: 3604
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MCMLXXXVIII
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc. |
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The Ancient One Joined: Sat Sep 20, 2003 9:40 pm Posts: 2523 Location: In a dark room...
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elchupacabra wrote: | Does the WD TV really stutter while playing back MKV files? |
Mine has never, on either SD or 720p x264 files. I've never tried a 1080p file though.
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elguaxo
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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:18 am Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc. |
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Master Of The Dead Donkey Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:01 pm Posts: 708
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elchupacabra wrote: | Does the WD TV really stutter while playing back MKV files? |
All the 720p I tried had no problems. I have only a handful of 1080p and those played fine too. There is a chance that older rips won't play smooth on any of all these players, because ~2 years ago everybody was encoding with unrestricted settings and the chipsets of these players support only HP L4.1 or lower.
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telmoMRC
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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:57 am Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc. |
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Will Tear Your Soul Apart Joined: Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:59 pm Posts: 627
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is like gx said i have one also better them this only one naked girl
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RedVeil
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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:29 pm Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc. |
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The Devil, Probably Joined: Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:40 pm Posts: 2250 Location: Inside my body.
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Vae Victis
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:06 am Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc. |
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Demon Of The Abyss Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:01 pm Posts: 1130
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only one naked girl?
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc. |
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Site Admin Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2002 1:35 am Posts: 19756 Location: En España
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okay so the general consensus is, if money is no object get a nitrogen cooled t-1000. If you don't want to build your own and are looking at bang/buck, WDTV?
Maybe we can come up with a recommendations page or something we can recommend some community approved players?
a) Dead-Donkey approved mechagodzilla pimp-daddy: ??? b) Bang/Buck: WDTV? c) Diseased Rodent: ??? d) Legacy Media Player: Modified Xbox with XBMC
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Vae Victis
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:38 pm Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc. |
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Demon Of The Abyss Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:01 pm Posts: 1130
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Vae Victis
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc. |
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Demon Of The Abyss Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:01 pm Posts: 1130
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Geezus
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc. |
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Demon Of The Abyss Joined: Mon Mar 15, 2004 8:24 pm Posts: 1340
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WDTV has a (n# reference frames * resolution) horsepower limit. Pass and ye will stutter. If move at all. DTS downsampling status offically "Planned". Which means no guarantees. and, to let the images do the talking : Out this autumm. Fair to assume you won't get that for under 100 bucks.
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elguaxo
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:43 am Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc. |
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Master Of The Dead Donkey Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:01 pm Posts: 708
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Geezus wrote: | WDTV has a (n# reference frames * resolution) horsepower limit. Pass and ye will stutter. If move at all. |
elguaxo wrote: | There is a chance that older rips won't play smooth on any of all these players, because ~2 years ago everybody was encoding with unrestricted settings and the chipsets of these players support only HP L4.1 or lower. |
It's not a secret formula: Level complianceSelect MaxDPB, --vbv-maxrate and --vbv-bufsize options from the table below depending on which level you wish to encode to: Code: | Level MaxDPB vbv-maxrate vbv-bufsize 3.0 3,037.5 10,000 10,000 3.1 6,750 14,000 14,000 3.2 7,680 20,000 20,000 4.0 12,288 20,000 25,000 4.1 12,288 50,000 62,500 4.2 13,056 50,000 62,500 5.0 41,400 135,000 135,000 5.1 69,120 240,000 240,000 |
MaxDPB = Maximum Decoded Picture Buffer size. Although the table shows maximum values for --vbv-bufsize, this typically should be set to a maximum of 14000, it depends on the device you're encoding for. Round up width and height (purely for this calculation, not the encode) to the nearest mod 16 value Reference frames = MaxDPB * 1024 / 1.5 / ( mod16_width * mod16_height ) Round down the result Example: Lets say you are encoding @ 708x564. Rounding width and height up to mod 16 gives us 720x576. Therefore, the number of reference frames for a level 3.0 compliant encode is 3037.5 * 1024 / 1.5 / (720*576) = 5 level 3.1 compliant encode is 6750 * 1024 / 1.5 / (720*576) = 11 Settings for a 3.1 level encode of our example video: --level 3.1 --ref 11 --vbv-maxrate 14000 --vbv-bufsize 14000
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elchupacabra
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:40 am Post subject: Re: Media Player - 1080p mkv, etc. |
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The Ancient One Joined: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:31 am Posts: 3604
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This should go into the Encoding thread.
@WDTV: So they are releasing a new model, just because of the DTS downsampling feature?
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