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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:22 am  Post subject: Confessions of a Blue Movie Star (1977)
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Confessions of a Blue Movie Star A.K.A Evolution of Snuff, The (1977)

Roadshow first had this passed with an R at 84mins (f), for cinema release in 1977; there is no mention of any cuts being made. This would probably not be the case now, as scenes from the (now banned) 'Last House on the Left' are included. Here they are presented as footage from a real snuff movie. Originally released in Australia under the title The Evolution of Snuff, though later in its cinema run this was changed to Confessions of a Blue Movie Star.

Released in the UK uncut on tape in the early 80's by Intervision, running 79min 08sec. In the mid 90's a local video distributor began importing UK prints of films, packaging them as adult titles, and releasing them with fake R ratings. These were put out on labels such as Blue Climax, Private and Colour Climax (See also Naked Werewolf Woman). All are very tame affairs; cut by the British censors, some even have their 18 rating before the movie. Confessions of a Blue Movie Star was one such title, put out on the Private label and running 71min 27sec. The missing footage included the entire end sequence featuring the Last House on the Left clips.

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Availability: DVD & VHS
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Runtime: USA:79 min
Country: West Germany
Language: English
Color: Color
Sound Mix: Mono

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http://www.eofftv.com/e/evo/evolution_of_snuff_main.htm
http://www.5minutesonline.com/1D/CONFESSIONSOFABLUE.htm
http://www.geocities.com/st3v3170/CONFESSIONSBLUEMOVIESTAR.html
http://www.refused-classification.com/F ... onfessions of a Blue Movie Star

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Haha still searching for anything related to Last House I see Iconoclast! I gave up looking for this one a couple of years ago because I just couldn't find the Intervision version anywhere!

I'd love to check this out too...


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Yes. And won't ever give up. Will keep going until I've got it :mrgreen:
A real shame that they couldn't add this documentary/movie in any of the LHOTL dvd releases as a extra. Would have fit as one pretty well...

Will take any version available, but the UNCUT 84min cut would be the ultimate choice of course =)

About LHOTL, the obvious cuts of the current most "uncut" version (R1 DVD) really annoy me... those cut scenes must still be somewhere :|

Oh, and if anyone has any info about this documentary would really love to hear. Exactly what LHOTL material there's in and so on :)

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From what I can remember from reading in the book "Killing for Culture", a guy with a paper bag on his head presents some supposedly real snuff movie clips, but in fact these are clips from the evisceration scene.

Check out that book if you can, that details the movie. It's on Creation press. And i take it you already read the Making of Last House book.


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freakyclique wrote:
From what I can remember from reading in the book "Killing for Culture", a guy with a paper bag on his head presents some supposedly real snuff movie clips, but in fact these are clips from the evisceration scene.

Check out that book if you can, that details the movie. It's on Creation press.

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And i take it you already read the Making of Last House book.

:oops: Nope. Haven't got it to my hands yet. Which is really a shame..

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freakyclique wrote:
And i take it you already read the Making of Last House book.

:oops: Nope. Haven't got it to my hands yet. Which is really a shame..[/quote]

Shame on you Iconoclast! And I thought you were a hardcore Last House fan... :wink:


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I'm trying my best :mrgreen:
But I really need to get both those books as soon as possible!

All that I know about LHOTL (which isn't much/enough) comes from the dvd commentaries, interviews, making of's etc. Combined with countless hours of google searches. Wandering through forgotten, long dead message boards and forums... was quite exited when I learned about this documentary and some other films =)

Here's a great Last House site. http://www.geocities.com/lasthouseuk/
Too bad it hasn't been updated in sometime :(

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I picked up my Killing for Culture book over the holidays, but my memory had failed me - it doesn't have that much written about COABMS, but this is what it says:

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Confessions Of A Blue Movie Star [d.Andrzej Kostenko], a German film production, purported to be a behind-the-scenes glimpse at the porn industry. When the "true-life" case of a starlet who committed suicide is over, the end credits abruptly give way to additional footage and an interview with a snuff film maker. The subject, none too convincing with a paper bag over his head, proceeds to show snippets from his snuff film work - in actuality, clips from Wes Craven's 1972 picture Last House On The Left.


and then in the notes:

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This film was originally titled Snuff. However, it isn't known whether Confessions Of A Blue Movie Star - with the tagged on end sequence - is something of an "updated" version.


There is definitely more details in the Last House making of book though, and some screenshots too, but couldn't get hold of my copy, it's been on loan for far too long :evil


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:D Thank you very much for the info and notes.
I have ordered David Szulkin's book 'Making Of', but there's some problems with the buyer to acquire it. I really hope it isn't completely sold out :cry:. I know that some netstores (amazon) etc. should still have some copies, but unfortunely I can't order from there atm...

Anyway, would really like to get COABMS to my hands. Still not 100% sure what LHOTL scenes it has. I was told that it has complete "forced lesbianism" scene. From "piss your pants" to when Phyllis rans away.
I believe that only still shots from the cut material exists novadays :cry:
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I don't think it has this scene in the photo. I think it's got the guts that might have been restored in the dvd. Not sure. Please somebody buy the dvd and rip it so we can find out!!

Hope you get your book it's a great read! :beerchug:


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you`re kidding yourself on buying the region 2 version. Forget it. There is no uncut version of this film available. the longest version is the MGM american DVD. According to the archivist there is still some violence and sex that the producer refused to put into the MGM version. This includes:

Scene showing the back of Juniors head blown off (his brain is exposed)
Additional chest carving and raping of Mari
Additional stabbing and disembowlling of Phyllis
Scene showing the animal-like woman eating Mari`s pussy out

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It's my understanding that an uncut version does not exist anymore. When the reels were sent to theaters, the theater managers would cut it up themselves so that, eventually, no two theaters ended up showing the same version. Craven himself apparently did not hold onto one, so when he decided to release it on DVD, he had to gather up as many as he could and re-cut it together. Some scenes were never recovered, or only the film was and not the sound. It's a shame that no one will ever get to see it as it was meant to be.

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I also remember the scene at the beginning where Mari and Phyllis are looking at the leaves in the forest and Mari goes on to tell her friend about how her breasts have recently developed. For some odd reason I remember her taking her shirt off in that scene but that's not how it happened on the MGM DVD version. Oh FIDDLESTICKS!!!!

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Actually, it was Wes Craven who said that an uncut copy was never released for home viewing. That includes your copy since the film was cut up before it even got to the theaters. As I said, he didn't hold onto the original reels, even before it was released on video. The DVD version shows some extra footage with no sound. Are you telling me that that footage is on your tape WITH the sound, but for some reason they couldn't do it for the DVD?

Sorry to burst your bubble, but it simply isn't possible that you have an uncut version of this movie.


Hm, maybe the book will shed some lights about those scenes (bold text). "According to the archivist" would really like to hear more from these archivists...

I know that I'm hunting something that most probably doesn't even exist anymore, but it's against my mentality to give up ;)

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 11:28 pm  Post subject: LHOTL missing/alternate scenes II
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Plus more some confirmed cuts from 'The Last House On The Left' (now you got me started ;))
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This version has no end credits. The movie ends with the same montage of each character, but no actors' names are printed over the scenes. After the montage, the movie's end theme song continues to play over a blank screen where the final production credits normally appears. Also, the scene showing the killers as they carry the girls down the stairs normally has the credit at the bottom of the screen, "Early next morning". In this version, this credit is missing. Since it is impossible to undo such a thing, this print must be from a time before the movie was completed.
These scenes are added:
* In the scene where Krug tells Weasel to cut Mari with his switchblade, this version goes on to show a close-up of Mari's bloody fingers with the voice-over, "Phyllis, he cut me!". This version goes on to show a wet patch on Phyllis' pants and a shot of the two semi-nude girls holding each other.
* In the scene where Junior pleads, "You're gonna kill someone if you're not careful...", this versions' scene has Junior continue, "...make 'em make it with each other." Sadie agrees, "That's a good idea!" Krug replies, "Make it with each other."
* The chase through the woods is longer. The added scene shows Weasel and Phyllis facing each other on opposite sides of the river. Phyllis gives him the bird and screams, "Screw Creep!" Weasel's angry reaction ends the scene.
* During the carving scene, this version contains additional shots of the sheriff getting out of his police car and walking.
* The dialog between Weasel and Mrs. Collingwood during the fellatio scene is lengthier in this version.

On the commentary track from Wes Craven and Sean S. Cunningham from the MGM DVD, Wes Craven mentions that in the scene right after they've killed the girls, in the pan across the scenic view, the pan was originally longer, leading to a shot of Mari crawling out of the lake and holding on to a tree, still alive. This would explain how she is out of the water when her parents find her body.

Almost all of these scenes are in R1 dvd, but not in R2 dvd release.

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http://www.geocities.com/lasthouseuk4/cuts.html
http://www.geocities.com/lasthouseuk4/cuts2.html

The Forced Lesbianism

This isn't available at all in any edition of the movie currently doing the rounds. It involves some footage of Mari and Phyllis forced to perform sexual acts upon each other, under the taunts of Krug and his criminal gang. It was shot, and was possibly fully intact upon it's original release, but is now only hinted at briefly.


Junior's Death

There was originally a more violent end to Junior, with this close-up of the back of his skull, after his bullet-biting suicide. Specially created by the effects crew, this shot isn't used within the film, and hasn't been seen on many editions.


Discovering Mari *

This alternative take is presumed lost now, and depicts the character Mari being found by her parents, while still alive. Before she dies in her mother's arms, Mari manages to give away the identities of her killers. No released or available print of the film has this take, though it was definitely filmed, and exists. It was rumoured to have been included in an early exhibition of the picture in Britain, before it's ban there. It is doubtful that the footage would still have sound.

Not available in any form.

* That last scene is in 'Krug and Company' (extremely rare alternate cut of the movie), with sound.

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The Making of book has a full chapter devoted to searching for an uncut version.

I was searching for Krug & Co version for ages but then it appeared on R2 DVD so I was happy to see this other version.

Interesting to read about MGM not wanting to put some scenes in though...

These are the versions I have:

UK VHS pre-cert on Replay label (the one without credits)
Dutch VHS
R1 DVD
R2 DVD
Japanese laserdisc VHS transfer

I can't really remember the difference between all these versions, it's a while since I bought the videos


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Once again; thanks freakyclique :D
Always love to discuss about LHOTL. Seems like I just can't get enough of it. No matter how many times I watch it.. in fact it seems to get better with every viewing :wacky:

I'm dreaming that some day an 'ultimate edition' of Last House could be released. Maybe those last cut scenes can be finally remastered and added to the movie. As I don't have the book yet, I don't know all the details about cuts etc. It's just that LHOTL cuts are so obvious that they really 'stick to your eye'. More I watch it more the cuts start to annoy...

I have only MGM R1 and the R2 DVD's. So I'm quite jealous of your versions ;)
Eh.. let me know if you someday want to sell your collection :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 4:46 pm  Post subject: Re: LHOTL missing/alternate scenes II
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Plus more some confirmed cuts from 'The Last House On The Left' (now you got me started ;))
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This version has no end credits. The movie ends with the same montage of each character, but no actors' names are printed over the scenes. After the montage, the movie's end theme song continues to play over a blank screen where the final production credits normally appears. Also, the scene showing the killers as they carry the girls down the stairs normally has the credit at the bottom of the screen, "Early next morning". In this version, this credit is missing. Since it is impossible to undo such a thing, this print must be from a time before the movie was completed.
These scenes are added:
* In the scene where Krug tells Weasel to cut Mari with his switchblade, this version goes on to show a close-up of Mari's bloody fingers with the voice-over, "Phyllis, he cut me!". This version goes on to show a wet patch on Phyllis' pants and a shot of the two semi-nude girls holding each other.
* In the scene where Junior pleads, "You're gonna kill someone if you're not careful...", this versions' scene has Junior continue, "...make 'em make it with each other." Sadie agrees, "That's a good idea!" Krug replies, "Make it with each other."
* The chase through the woods is longer. The added scene shows Weasel and Phyllis facing each other on opposite sides of the river. Phyllis gives him the bird and screams, "Screw Creep!" Weasel's angry reaction ends the scene.
* During the carving scene, this version contains additional shots of the sheriff getting out of his police car and walking.
* The dialog between Weasel and Mrs. Collingwood during the fellatio scene is lengthier in this version.

On the commentary track from Wes Craven and Sean S. Cunningham from the MGM DVD, Wes Craven mentions that in the scene right after they've killed the girls, in the pan across the scenic view, the pan was originally longer, leading to a shot of Mari crawling out of the lake and holding on to a tree, still alive. This would explain how she is out of the water when her parents find her body.

Almost all of these scenes are in R1 dvd, but not in R2 dvd release.


I don't normally like re-opening a thread this old but I thought I should point out that the R2 that doesn't include these scenes is the UK DVD, the listed scenes from the R1 are all in the Dutch, and presumably also the French, DVD.


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Yeah we were talking about the UK version when we were referring to the R2 DVD, sorry for any confusion :p

Did you ever get that making of book Iconoclast? I got mine back, but then lent it out again just last week, but this time it will be easier to get back. I'll stick some more info in this thread if I see anything interesting. Unless you got it of course.

And come on, somebody find us Confessions of a Blue Movie Star :o


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PaulScream's sig just reminded me Iconoclast isn't about...

...somebody bring COABMS in his honour


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