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PC_Arcade
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 11:27 am Post subject: |
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Err, ok.
Highly strung today aren't we Satan 
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 11:31 am Post subject: |
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satan wrote: | Anyway around that? |
Competant media player that the desktop doesn't manipulate as it's bitch. media player responds to any change in the desktop, ie. clicking, messages, pop-ups etc.
Shoddy coding I think, I can't think of an advantage to it really, or if it is it's a stupid feature. Zoomplayer and BSplayer do not adhere to this incompetant programming so a switch to either of those is recommended. Zoomplayer is my personal preference. It was designed for tv out and multi monitor manipulation (i watch stuff full screen on my tv whilst continue to use my pc on my monitor) and therefore the desktop does not interfere with it's use. It contains many more features that media player and is all in all more stable than even the pretty decent media player 6.4. BSplayer lacks the features of zoomplayer, but is pretty solid nonetheless. A outright replacement for media player 6.4 is media player classic. It has an almost identical gui but is much more stable, has more features and can play realtime and quicktime media with the appropriate codecs, and therefore you don't have to taint your system with those players presence.
My ?0.02
ps. when you don't know what a client is, can you stop referring to everything as 'fuck'  It's about the tenth topic that starts "Who are these fucks?" and it ends up "they are people using emule"  hehe anyways, the lionhead network is an isreali equivalent to SR, but they made their own custom client that pushes their community, 2x i think. Funny Nick was merely a way of managing the defaulters, although I can see why you got concerned, but the problem as said is your client, there actual nicks are all emule-project.net. Still best to do a simple board search on emule-project.net in cases like this. The Funny Nick version has been around for quite a long time now, you just upgraded from an old client or is it something you've just noticed? Most defaulters will be downloading new and SR releases.
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satan
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 11:37 am Post subject: |
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a member of the recently deceased Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2003 8:07 am Posts: 2564 Location: Hell ___________________________ ------ Horror Dealer ------
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damn, just kidding.=)
Thanks for the essay Dr. Spud, but knew all that.=)
Mplayer2 is the LOWEST PC usage player I know of, all the others puke or skip when playing avi's.
Using a p2450 when emule is going strong.
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 11:48 am Post subject: |
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avi's never do athlon xp 2400+, use zoomplayer to watch simpsons normally whilst on emule + bit torrent and normally visual studio .net.
Not used it on a low spec pc like yours though, but BSplayer should be a much better option. I used to use mp6.4, tis very good, but because it repsonds to it's environment and as media player classic can do more I've ended up ditching it.
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satan
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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bsplayer skips like all the others.
Never used WMPLAYER classic, I should try that someday.=)
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PrayeR
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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spudthedestroyer wrote: | visual studio .net |
compiling normal apps or just typing or compiling "hello wolrd"?
VS.NET does not eat a lot of resourves... same like u will open word etc.
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satan
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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PrayeR wrote: | spudthedestroyer wrote: | visual studio .net |
compiling normal apps or just typing or compiling "hello wolrd"? VS.NET does not eat a lot of resourves... same like u will open word etc. |
LOL. Hello WOrld, I had such problems with that 5 years ago.=)
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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satan wrote: | Never used WMPLAYER classic, I should try that someday.=) |
Slight correction, your using windows media player classic now, your talking about Media Player Classic right? They have no association with microsoft
@PrayeR, .net studio uses lots more ram than word just for the GUI and yes it's a bit more than 'Hello World' hehe.
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PrayeR
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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spudthedestroyer
well, i always foget about my 1Gb of ram...
but yet sumthing.
ammount of ram is not ctitical for MPEG4 movies
CPU - yep
p2450 is enough.
i remember i had k6-2 550 with 384Mb ram
and i could not watch mpeg4 movies... coz of CPU not of RAM.
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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I have 1 GB ddr PC3200 too, but you can see by pressing ctrl-alt-del the resources it uses, although it is quite inaccurate.
Oh and you are talking about MPEG4, that's true, if your referring to Divx and in particular divx5+ then I don't think it's that true, it is much more cpu intensive than it should be and older machines struggle.
It's just something you won't notice if you have a decent amount of ram and a newish cpu, but on Satan's specs he certainly will have trouble with some divx5 playback. 3.11, 4 and xvid should be fine in any player. I would have thought divx5 would play smoothly on those specs but it seems not.
There are always ontop programs, actual windows decorations/actual title buttons add a button to put a window all on top, but you will see that button so it's an annoyance for full screen.
Have you tried something like powerdvd? z makes the image full screen and it generally goes uneffected by desktop environment manipulation.
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PrayeR
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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well, i use TaskInfo.
it has many great features
like used dll's. opened files by every process. has ability to flush cashes. really powerfull thing.
so usually 400-500 Mb's r always free.. even when i play games.
emule uses about 200-300Mb always. it's a lot, but i dont care...
well, i dunno about DivX5.x.x
but i think with DivX3 it't the same situation as with mpeg4.
coz we know what is DivX3
i just ran VS.NET loaded 1 C# project (not big but not small.. several source files)
25Mb used by VS.NET
on machine p4 1.4GHz, 256Mb Rambus
ran Word with about 30 pages *.doc -- 20Mb
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | well, i dunno about DivX5.x.x |
I'll reiterate, very cpu intensive compared to every other MPEG4 codec. Quote: | but i think with DivX3 it't the same situation as with mpeg4. coz we know what is DivX3 |
I'm not quite sure what that comment means, can you paraphrase or rewrite a different way? Are you comparing divx3 to divx5 or something. If you were, comparing it to 3.11 in terms of RAM usage is negligable, they share name only really, 3.11 is hacked version of m$ mpeg4, but divx 5 was written from the ground up with bells and whistles on and I see the situation kind of like WMP6.1 compared to WMP7-8. The performance and feature step up in both analogies is similar if you know what i mean  Whereas the older one requires less system resources, the newer one does more but needs more to do it.
A p2 450mhz will inherantly have trouble with divx5 if not properally optimized.
I'm sure I got what you were trying to say wrong there though
thx for the tip on taskinfo, as long as it isn't a ram optimiser as those just suck and do more harm than good. Will download when I get home
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PrayeR
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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spudthedestroyer
yeah, i mean divx3.11 is hacked mpeg4.
taskinfo is not RamOptimizer. it just have possibility ro clean ram in 2 different modes (i use it mainly to flush disk cashes sometimes). it's very advances task manager with a lot of feats.
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graag
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Dead But Dreaming Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2003 4:14 pm Posts: 270 Location: Tromaville
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spudthedestroyer wrote: | Have you tried something like powerdvd? z makes the image full screen and it generally goes uneffected by desktop environment manipulation. |
I'd say "f*ck" but santa probably copyrighted it, so: shite. PowerDVD is shite for watching avi format. Even mplayer2 (Windows Media Player 6.4) can go fullscreen with alt-enter and so do almost all other players. Me, I'm more than satisfied with an old, ad-ware free radlight. It doesn't use much resources, it has aspect ratio controls and it works fine with TV-Out in Clone mode.
BTW, satan, you could check notification options in your client's preferences.
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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graag wrote: | spudthedestroyer wrote: | Have you tried something like powerdvd? z makes the image full screen and it generally goes uneffected by desktop environment manipulation. |
I'd say "f*ck" but santa probably copyrighted it, so: shite. PowerDVD is shite for watching avi format. Even mplayer2 (Windows Media Player 6.4) can go fullscreen with alt-enter and so do almost all other players. Me, I'm more than satisfied with an old, ad-ware free radlight. It doesn't use much resources, it has aspect ratio controls and it works fine with TV-Out in Clone mode. BTW, satan, you could check notification options in your client's preferences. |
well like i said i use zoomplayer, but powerdvd doesn't respond to the environment and seems to not use much system resources at all. WMP can go full screen but it quits out if a message pops up.
Never heard of radlight though or if i have i have an inkling it's some crappy bundled software? I guess i'm thinking of another player.
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