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 Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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Well if this is Paul's specs:
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Size: 606 MB (or 621,046 KB or 635,951,104 bytes)
Length: 01:21
No of CDs: 1
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Codec: Divx4
Bitrate: 907 kb/s
Width: 640
Height: 480
Ratio: 1.33:1
FPS: 25.000
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Codec: MPEG Layer 3
Bitrate: 128 kb/s (64/ch, stereo) CBR
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What exactly is different PCA?
Same frame rate, frame size, bitrate, length, codec, and all importantly identical filesize. Its the same release, its inplausable that they are different rips. One or the other have retagged.
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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The video bitrate is different :
Paul's = 907
Grimrippers = 901
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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that's negligable, think about it, its variable bitrate, so its all down to how the bitrate counter calculates it. For example, gspot calculates a different bitrate to EMM, which is different to the actual encoded bitrate setting.
With every single setting the same, and most importantly the filesize being so indentically undersized, which is way beyond coincidence if you ask me.
Pauls = 635,951,104
If someone has the other rip, find out what the byte size is, then you'll know. I guess the hash would be the same too, but that's only if one aint corrupted. If someone hash it get the byte size or the hash and then you can tell if they are the same or not 
IMO thats the same rip going on specs alone though.
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It does look like it, it's certainly VERY suspect.
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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lol well if GrimRippers stole it I'm sure they'll never admit it  I guess that goes the other way round, but a release group that plays fair and always gets it right is like a politician that doesn't lie. Its normally all about schedules and rushing (take a look at all the nukes of rips that come out for a big movie, simply because they haven't taken the time to get it right and want to be first).
Its not very common, but release group members have taken rips from p2p and released them retagged. Normally its the other way round though.
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wow, that's pretty low  I guess that means they're release group is dying, if they have to resort to retagging others rip.
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They're so l33t they have a Hotmail address. 
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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not a gmail? bah!
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I have contacted them regarding this matter, lets see if they have the balls to respond. 
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Less of the cheek you
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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I know its just filetags and all, but i really don't get it, I can't imagine what posses people to take credit for something they didn't do.
I mean like, you don't see people removing the credits from the movie and replacing it with "Written by, Starring, filmed by, Directed by and about spudthedestroyer"
Then again, its like that episode of the simpsons:
Doctor 1: I don't see what he's reading anywhere, did you right it?
Doctor 2: Erm... did you like it?
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah,I started reading this and was like HUH???Didn't sound like a Paul at all....now if the link disapeared for 2 months or so and then came back with some sordid explanation...Now THAT is a Paul 
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So true Dxa.
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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here is a screen cap of the grimrippers copy i got
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<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/video-man/pranks-cap.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com">
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Well.... all i can say is that we (The Grimrippers that is) have never stolen the work of someone else, nor will we ever do so in the future.
Blackthrash did the Panks rip and. he once sent me a original-tape of the same movie once, he had a few duplicates of it apparantly .. why would he ever have the need to steal it from someone else who as it seems released it much later?
I'm pretty sure we put out Pranks in June or July 2003.. that was our big nastie-month (our page with rip-dates doenst seem to be up at this moment.)
Besides, i dont think none of us even knew what Emule was then 
I didnt find this place untill December the same year
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:47 am Post subject: |
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Okay, I can see that we've been ripped again.
1. All Blackthrash rips are made from his own huge collection of the original UK Video Nasties that he's collected for many years.
2. Paul released the retagged version in October of 2003, we did that in June 2003.
3. Our website is gone because the host decided to disappear and I haven't bothered setting up another one at the moment.
4. GrimRippers doesn't steal, borrow, retag or in any other way use material outside of GrimRippers.
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:16 am Post subject: |
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Considering how much everybody was dissecting the rest of the specs, nobody noticed this...?
GRIMRIPPERS
<Release>2003-06-02</Release>
Paul's specs (Oct. 14, 2003)
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:02 am Post subject: |
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I did, I never thought grimrippers ripped anyone off, Paul on the other hand...........
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Kind of a dead issue at this point anyway since Paul is officially deceased.Just be sure to know that =STR= would never do anything like that and if he did do it he did so without any of the groups knowledge before his untimely and inevitable demise
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