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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 1:04 am  Post subject: Renting DVD's from a library
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I noticed a few people on here mentioned they COULD rent dvd's and copy them to dvdr.
Has anyone else considered getting them from the library?
You can't get the latest blockbuster's but i noticed my library had
a copy of Shogun Assassin and is
about ?18 to buy from Amazon.

I've THOUGHT about getting a few box sets this way as well.Angel Season 2 was ?2.50
for 7 days rental.
I'm off to see if i can get Survivors tomorrow, so i can watch it that way;-)

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well, not owning the dvd and copying it is illegal. i'm sure everyone here owns the hundreds of original copies, vhs, dvd of the rips they do, and doesnt just rent some dvds for a euro/dollar/beaver pelt/pound/lira, rip them to thier hard drive, then return them to the rental place, with the clerk none the wiser.

Because that would be piracy, and aparently that is illegal, even to offhandedly say you rented and copied a dvd, depending on what country and crappy laws you live in, could get you arrested, maybe this forum shut down. i dont know brit laws, but i think there is something about forum owners having libal responsibility on what is posted. dont know, it aint my forum.

I'm sure you were just joking about doing some sort of renting and ripping, because nobody here had ever thought to do that, even on a daily basis with the rent 10 dvds for 10$, no matter how many video store memberships i have throughout a 200 mile radius of my home, i find it morally abhorent and hahahahatheft is wrong, your stealing form the heheehe hardworking h ahaha i cant keep this up.

so, i think officially, 'dont do anything illegal, or even say you did unless you have the freaking massive amounts of cash to fend off a mpaa/mipa/whoever if they file a law suit against you based on a forum posting. ip's are easy to trace, many isp's are actually eager to turn in p2p users, and if you had the money to actually stand trial against the friggin mpaa, then you wouldnt need to Rent n' Rip(tm)''



'Rent n' Rip is a registered trademark of monkeysmasher international rectal poisons and geriatric taxadermy equipment.'






Errr. spud's the guy in charge here, what is your view on the subject, your spudship?

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This is all hypothetical, i forgot to say in my post that i could do it
if i wanted to :)

*reworded original post

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:46 am  Post subject: Re: Renting DVD's from a library
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Yup, one of my local libraries has a collection that dwarves blockbuster, "choices" and all the shitty 3rd world video stores combined. Infact it's at least 4 times bigger than blockbuster... the only thing is the bastards just pile them ontop of each other in no logical order :evil:

Don't matter anyway, I use http://www.screenselect.co.uk, much cheaper and more DVDs

johnathome wrote:
I noticed a few people on here mentioned they COULD rent dvd's and copy them to dvdr.
Has anyone else considered getting them from the library?
You can't get the latest blockbuster's but i noticed my library had
a copy of Shogun Assassin and is
about ?18 to buy from Amazon.

I've THOUGHT about getting a few box sets this way as well.Angel Season 2 was ?2.50
for 7 days rental.
I'm off to see if i can get Survivors tomorrow, so i can watch it that way;-)

John

*EdITED* before the door knocks :o

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rent and copy ;) who want to buy the crap anyway or pay to much for a movie that aint worth your bread and water... copyright laws ppl this is for you -> :moon: :moon: :moon:

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If you are interested in making DVD-R backups of your DVDs, then try DVDshrink.

It is easy enough to find... (dvdshrink.org I think) it can rip to DVD-R, retain menus, xtras, or only the film. Rip with lossless an put "insert next disk" stuff at end of dvd1 etc etc.. well worth a look and freeware.

Can even edit dvds together, like for example I made a LOTR-FOTR SE dvdBackup with it, just the movie, both dvds all language subtitles and dir commentaries removed all onto one disk so my daughter can not get her grubby fingers all over the originals...

Or for another example I made a Aliens SE dvd-r with all the Riplee's daughter crap and all the lV-4.26 pre story simply removed.

Very cool app, if you have a dvd burner check it out.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:17 am  Post subject:
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Jynks wrote:
If you are interested in making DVD-R backups of your DVDs, then try DVDshrink.


Two counter suggestions. First up is the best quality re-encoder out there period, has been for many versions now:
Pinnacle Instant Copy

Very good quality, although long encoding times in comparison (not that much, but if your in a hurry). If you need top notch quality, then that's the program to use. Of course CCE or TMPGenc are better quality, but they take ages and require remastering.

The runner up goes to:
CloneDVD (official, by the people who do CloneCD, not the cheap ripoff)

That wins handsdown for speed to quality ratio. DVDshrink can't hold up next to either of those, give them both a try, I'm sure you'll join the darkside. The fact that they are 'pay' software is irrelevant on the internet, just download from emule. :)

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Pinnacle Instant Copy you say... ok.. got it qued... give you my cents on it after the first test.

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you do that jynks, we would love to hear your 2 cents about Pinnacle Instant Copy...

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DvdDecrypter to rip the dvd
then Pinnacle instant copy to encode to 1 dvd, menus extras everything.
All on one disc. Takes about 3 hours total but the results def worth it.

Didn't we have this conversation in another thread :?

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indeed we did good sir
http://forum.dead-donkey.com/viewtopic. ... stant+copy

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I missed it, new to fourm, saw a op to say hi and meet a few folk.

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Well at the risk of sounding silly.. I have to say that DVDshrink is better than pinical insta copy.

There are a few differences, Pinical can rip to VCD/sVCD (as if you would, better off using GardianKnot to divx it) And DVDshrink can not do all the audio cd stuff.

BUT.. I tested the apps with 1 large movie (LOTR - TT - SE) and a Television Series (Startrek TNG S6 D2). The TV show with all menus in tact, and movie with just film.

I couldn't really see any difference between the rips apart from the Insta Copy seamed to have a greater problem with small lines "strobing" in the TV release.

DVDshrink can AUTO decode the dvd on the fly (no need for dvd dycrypter) And you have a lot more control on the remastered disk.

DVDshrink can use multi compressions for different sections. (eg MASS compression on menus but normal on film.. keep all he extras and still have more space for film)

DVDshrink can detach, split and start encoding from any point in VOB, as well as collecting enabling editing and pooling of multi dvds into one. (example I have a DVD of my fav science fiction shots and another with fav martial arts stuff)

I could not figure out how to do it, but the www site of Insta copy said you can make lossless dvd rips over 2 dvds, but I couldn't figure it out. DVDshrink can do this and has the ability to use user created images for "please insert next disc" and "continue movie" (retailing menu system on BOTH disks, inserting the continue move at start of menu sequence)

I think you guys should give it a try.. it is freeware so the development is real fast, but little changes.. might be a while from last time you looked at it.

FINAL opinion - - They are pretty much the same.

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I'm sorry can't agree with that at all, the quality is VASTLY superior on pinnacle and cloneDVD, every single time I've used it, and that's why i use them over dvdshrink... it simply doesn't hold a candle next to them.

The family guy disc I did in dvd shrink is terrible; its blocky as hell and badly interlaced. Instant copy both sorted out the interlacing problem caused by shrink and managed to reduce the blockiness. CloneDVD was a bit grainer/blockier than pinnacle, but no interlacing problems.

Disc swapping is not something I bought a DVD-r burner for, I would never use that feature if it was in pinnacle or cloneDVD. The reason it isn't in pinnacle is because its for making single DVD backups, having to disc swap is not something I would want :)

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should mention those test were with Pinnacle Instant Copy 7, the cloneDVD that's out now and DVDshrink (can't remember off hand, but it is a version or two old).

Both Pinnacle and DVDshrink have newer versions out since then, I'll give dvdsrhink a go again, but unfortunately I can't get my hopes up unless there's been some radical improvement.

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johnathome wrote:
DvdDecrypter to rip the dvd
then Pinnacle instant copy to encode to 1 dvd, menus extras everything.
All on one disc. Takes about 3 hours total but the results def worth it.

Didn't we have this conversation in another thread :?



DvdDecrypter YES thats a good one, everyone that havent tryed that one out should get it... its the best... and the even better its free to ;)

and for burning dvd u guys should try clonedvd!...a very good appz for burning and u can choose what u want on the dvd like dvd trailers *poof* gone... it is very easy to edit the contents of a dvd. the quality is good also... if you have top quality gear like me allt the ripping and encoding is done in 1hour and the quality is like the orginal everytime :rock:

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....... if you have top quality gear like me .......


:lol: ROTFLMAO

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hehehe... but seriously... u must have a p3 800-1gig to encode a dvd in 3 hours... :-o

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no I never used cloneCD apart from PC game copying.

I am taking spudthedestroyer word for it, and doing the next spindel all with Pinnacle, the proof will be in showing it to non computer types who are just at the movie at my house....

I have to admit I have had 2 dvd's of brit sitcoms that have look REAL bad.... I might reburn the Blackadder season 1 - 4 disc and see how that looks.

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I was using Pinnacle v8.0 and DVDshrink v3.1.5

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Are you watching on a tv or a monitor? To prove/see the quality difference, you'll need to use a decent monitor. Your tv naturally blends the fields and blurs out all the artifacts so the difference may not be significant.

Will have to try the newest DVDshrink and see if its improved. I used a range of DVDcopying programs and tested them all on a few sources.

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