It's magic!
By the read of that!
But still would be good for MPPA/RIAA
PacketHound can stop illegal downloads - Simple as that
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| Author: | d0c [ Fri Apr 23, 2004 10:04 am ] |
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Newest PacketHound release eliminates illegal trading of copyrighted files on P2P..... read more here -> hxxp://www.palisadesys.com/news&events/press_releases/ph3.0release.shtml |
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| Author: | autopsy [ Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:44 am ] |
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and this is applied by whom, where to and how? |
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| Author: | PC_Arcade [ Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:46 am ] |
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I'd be AMAZED if this actually worked ! |
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| Author: | paul-scream22 [ Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:46 am ] |
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It's magic! By the read of that! But still would be good for MPPA/RIAA PacketHound can stop illegal downloads - Simple as that
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| Author: | d0c [ Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:57 am ] |
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since we are just sharing and not trading i guess this will not affect the emule community 
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| Author: | PC_Arcade [ Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:58 am ] |
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| good point d0c
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| Author: | TaKYoN [ Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:18 pm ] |
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Sounds good, not for us obviously LOL This will never work anyways, they always come up with new shit, and then someone else finds a way around it, thats the way the world works. 
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| Author: | Emperor [ Fri Apr 23, 2004 3:30 pm ] |
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No this will not work, will work for the creator of the program though................... whom is going to make big money out of this i think 
anywayz as TaKYoNtheKoRRuPTeD already says if it works and I'll bet my sorry ass it doesn't people will find a way to overrun this little prob and i'm glad for that !!
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| Author: | TaKYoN [ Fri Apr 23, 2004 4:57 pm ] |
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Fuckin eh it aint gonna work mate. Like the old saying goes, You think you are smarter, then along comes someone smarter. Well, maybe that aint an old saying, but it sounds frickin cool. |
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| Author: | d0c [ Fri Apr 23, 2004 5:09 pm ] | ||
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are you a coder or something since your so fucking sure this thing will not work.. dont underestimate the power of the good side, dark vader did lose his grip you know.... everyone has a good reason to shiver in fear of not getting movies from p2p. good things dont last forever my friend... |
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| Author: | Emperor [ Fri Apr 23, 2004 5:30 pm ] |
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No i beleive it is impossible to let this whole thing stop, IMHO there will always be people sharing software and there will always be sharing tools. No matter how hard the good side tries, evil will conquer 
There is no Heaven without a hell !! cheers |
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| Author: | Hadesia [ Fri Apr 23, 2004 5:37 pm ] |
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And I thought that we was on the good side 
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| Author: | Emperor [ Fri Apr 23, 2004 5:41 pm ] | ||
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O well yeah uhm....................  hahahahha when i want to be bad im still good hahahaha get it ?!?!?
Don't make me answer these difficult questions again will ja 
Makes my brain hurt when i have to think that hard !!
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| Author: | d0c [ Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:19 pm ] | ||
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hahahaha... that sounds like something from frankenstein
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| Author: | Emperor [ Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:33 pm ] | ||||
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Hahahha well that's pure luck then
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| Author: | John_Doe [ Sat Apr 24, 2004 6:33 am ] |
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how DO you guys think this 'war' will end? 1. In a police state kind situation with 'Thought Police' that will arrest you for making any tiny copy of anything. Everyone will get fines and arrested all the time and people will get so scared by all this shit that most will eventually stop using p2p, hence the quanitity of both users and availible data will fall dramaticly. 2. The RIAA and all those will finally have to admit it's a lost cause and realize that instead of beating the filesharers with 'violence' they can instead render them useless by lowering prices on copyrighted stuff, and people wont bother all the hassle of downloading and playing pirated copies. 3. Much like the amiga went down because of copying, the RIAA's prophecies come true and p2p destroys the music and movie industry. Films and music are all so easily availible for download BEFORE you can even buy them and everybody gets it for free. More and more companies go bankrupt and the quantity of products fall dramaticly. 4. The anti-piracy guys finally manage to force all isps to have some working 'anti-p2p' firewall/blocking system and it'll be much harder to keep on going. I know I'd like to believe nr. 2 myself, but is it just wishfull thinking? |
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| Author: | John_Doe [ Sat Apr 24, 2004 6:37 am ] |
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and another thing: Most guys I've read about that've got 'caught' for p2p'ing have had like 5 films or 50 films, or 100 mp3s or something like that. What do you think would happen if they would raid any of our users place and find almost 2000 titles? 15 years jail? Would it matter that most were of obscure origin, lowbudget and not even availble for purchace in the country? |
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| Author: | Emperor [ Sat Apr 24, 2004 8:10 am ] | ||
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There's like a good point in all of those, but I strongly feel for those two above. But for 2. doesn't it have to be the moviecompany's and recordlabels whom have to make the decsion to lower the prices of their stuff, if you ask me they can easily do that, they just have to lower the costs of their promotion campaigns which IMO are just insane. Ofcourse you have to interest people in your product but paying these insane prices for a cd or dvd nowadyas is just wacko !! If i buy my self a Heavy metal record from a tiny recordlabel from a tiny band which obviously doesn't have a big promotion campaign behind it i will not pay more then let's say 12 euro which is let's say 13 usd, if we compare this with a mega act like let's say metallica you will pay 22 euro/23 usd.......... get my point if they start lowering their promotion cost, because i think i little less promotion would still do the trick wouldn't it result in increase of the total sales amount, becuase cd's will get cheaper and people will buy more easily. 3. This is also a thing which is in the back of my mind a long time. What will happen eventually, will the total market be destroyed by d/l i don't know but I guess it could in a way. But if you ask me if one really likes something he/she would buy the original thing instead over a pirate copy. The positive thing of downloading though is that you can save yourselve from buying a complete useless movie / cd / program................................ As for if they come to raid someones home whom a has accidentally d/l 2000 movies most of the d/l things are copyright controlled, even if they are not available i ya own country still it is a thing they will not tolarate
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| Author: | monkeysmasher [ Sat Apr 24, 2004 10:26 am ] |
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1. hmmmmmm, i suspect there will always be piracy; the people who create the anticopy/macrovision/laws are usually somewhat responsible for the defeat of the anticopy/macrovision/laws so they will have another job. seems there needs to be a 'constant threat' making it essential to keep creating new products. like antivirus companies wouldnt concieve to use thier 'research' into viruses to spread and create the need for thier industry. if i made a program that was perfect, never needed an upgrade, that's just screwing myself out of future profits. 2. since the entertainment industry in the usa(and probably most other countries) is so intertwined with the goverment, i doubt stopping the of p2p programs is thier goal, just containing the technological explosion and controlling its use, extending thier own powers and integrating themselves into each person's life. a non-stop pay-per-use society, logged, catagorized, and bulk emailed until two years after we die; when the plastic wrapping of culture comes off, and when we realize the wrapping was better then what was inside. sad to say, i think the only perpetual motion machine people as a whole will ever have is greed. 3. or more then likely, i wake up to the sound gw bush taking a shower, and i realize the whole thing was just a dream, and J.R. wasnt shot. just like last time....on Dallas! hehe, sorry, i sound like a little bitch. |
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| Author: | Jynks [ Sat Apr 24, 2004 11:03 am ] |
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2. The RIAA and all those will finally have to admit it's a lost cause and realize that instead of beating the filesharers with 'violence' they can instead render them useless by lowering prices on copyrighted stuff, and people wont bother all the hassle of downloading and playing pirated copies. I do not think that will happen, a lot of people download the stuff out of convenience... it IS eayer to simply grab a file and have it there in a few days than to go out to the store and buy it. I think that eventualy the studio's will have download on demand www sites oif there own. If you can't beat em join em. You log into a record lable and download wat you want, mabey for a modist time share fee (like you pay and get 6 month acess) Then they make the real cash from conserts, t-shirts, toys.. REAL things not intelectual property. Do not know if this will happen.. Stephen King once tried to make a free online book and failed... in fact as far as a know not 1 single "free entertainment" venture has worked on the internet and made money yet. I mean instead of spending all this time trying to stop movioe piracy, y not relesae the tiutles themselves and put the dosh into movie festavels, movie houses, niche underground cinima.. Bring a rebirth of the film industry. |
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