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Author:  karstmobile [ Sat May 29, 2004 9:30 am ]
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karstmobile dreams of "3Mbps/3Mbps" through power lines...



http://www.currentgroup.com

http://www.current.net/ServiceAndPricin ... fault.aspx

http://equipped.msn.com/article.aspx?aid=4


How fast can it go?
For the moment, though, more households can buy BPL from Current Communications than from any other company. Current offers three price ranges based on speed: One megabit per second costs $29.95 per month, 2 megabits per second costs $34.95, and 3 megabits per second costs $39.95. This is about the same speed and price as DSL and cable, but there's one important difference. Current Communications delivers a "symmetrical" service, where your upload speed is as fast as your download speed. Cable and DSL are "asynchronous." Your download speed may be fast, but your upload speed is only a fraction of that ?typically 80 percent or 90 percent slower. (Satellite upload speeds are even worse.) The ability to deliver synchronous speeds is unique to BPL, and more and more Internet users require a fast upload speed to get the most out of the Net. File-sharers upload files all the time, but there are other examples. Internet telephony requires some amount of uploading anytime you're on the phone, and video instant-messenger applications upload data, too.
Author:  paul-scream22 [ Sat May 29, 2004 10:59 am ]
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ah, to dream the dream........one day we'll all be on 3Mbps/3Mbps.

Lets hope HHAH is still around to use it.

But it is getting out of hand having say a 2/3MB line and still only have a 256k upload (or 128!!!)
Author:  spudthedestroyer [ Sat May 29, 2004 7:09 pm ]
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yes, this was on the news last year (Look North :o ), but from what i've read the technology is utterly terrible. They simply can't filter out the static and you can rarely acheive anywhere near maximum potentional, getting so much interferance that its almost worthless using it and current adsl/cable is far superior.

It is a aparantly, also really insecure, without using the telephone system, it simply broadcasts data, so anyone along the line with a packet sniffer can intercept your data.

Shame really, sounded great.
Author:  karstmobile [ Sat May 29, 2004 10:19 pm ]
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I guess unstable and insecure goes along with most new technologies. They tout improvements, so hopefully it will come of age and be a sweet alternative.

Wish it was available here, be sure, I'd give it a go... :twisted:
Author:  Purple.Nightmare [ Sat May 29, 2004 10:27 pm ]
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i had wondered wot happened with those trials in the uk and if anything had come of it....but i guess as long as it is as insecure as it sounds and there are probs with qos atm there ain't gonna be much of a market for it.
Author:  spudthedestroyer [ Sat May 29, 2004 11:26 pm ]
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I believe they had extended trails in Sweden or Norway or one of those third world countries (that's a joke nor-swedish people :) ) and it basically turned out to be totally pathetic and useless.

Avoid like the plague (internet/powerline technology, not norway and sweden :lol:)
Author:  George Tatum [ Sat May 29, 2004 11:41 pm ]
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Norway has got to be the best country on earth, I seem to remember reading they don't have copyright restrictions on p2p 8)
Author:  Blu_Vein_Throbber [ Sun May 30, 2004 4:09 am ]
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Who cares if it is insecure? I dont. I have cable and it is a shared connection with everyone on my node. That doesnt stop me from doing anything.

Bring me the speed!!!! :rage:
Author:  rtm1981 [ Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:28 am ]
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Quote George Tatum:
"I seem to remember reading they don't have copyright restrictions on p2p"</i>

Well, I'm not really sure to tell you the truth, but if we do, nothing is beeing done about it at least. 8)
An alternative to powerline technology is of course SHDSL (I think it's called), if you're willing to relinquish some cash! :P Alas, I don't have the cash to relinquish.. I'm stuck with the worst line available. 756/128 :cry:

But internet wise, Norway is SHIT seriously. The best line we have that normal people can afford is like 1800/256 (or something of the like) and that's only available in Oslo. The connection most people have is 1024/256 which basically is pure shit as well. If you're willing to pay 1500-2000$ to set it up, you can of course get a 10MB/10MB line 8) You also have to pay an absurd amount of money every month though.. I can't be sure this information is accurate, but I'm pretty sure I read something along these lines some time ago. heh.
Author:  satan [ Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:44 am ]
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You can have 4mbit/4mbit in the US.

Costs $45 a month.

/but you risk getting blacklisted as you need to uncap.=(
Author:  spudthedestroyer [ Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:52 am ]
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Blu_Vein_Throbber wrote:
Who cares if it is insecure? I dont. I have cable and it is a shared connection with everyone on my node. That doesnt stop me from doing anything.

Bring me the speed!!!! :rage:


you will when you drop packets like shit and get constant massive corruption. Broadcasting packets is terribly insecure and as a result there's a serious lack of data integrity.
Author:  Eclipse [ Fri Jun 04, 2004 11:57 am ]
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At least in your countries u guys have the chance to get lines of 2,3,4 mbit at low prices,in portugal our motherfuckers ISP?s give us shit lines at high prices,for my adsl 512\128 line i have to pay ?53.55 a month !!!
Author:  paul-scream22 [ Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:06 pm ]
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Shit Eclipse :-o

In UK I get 1.5MB/256 line for ?52.72.
And then thats exensive for me, I'm looking for cheaper at the mo :lol:
Author:  GaMeR [ Fri Jun 04, 2004 7:47 pm ]
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In Turkey, I pay 30? for my 128-32 adsl connection. :matrix:
Author:  spudthedestroyer [ Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:09 pm ]
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paul-scream22 wrote:
Shit Eclipse :-o

In UK I get 1.5MB/256 line for €52.72.
And then thats exensive for me, I'm looking for cheaper at the mo :lol:


You can get €s for less than a ? at any nightclub... wouldn't touch that shit though.

2mb/"256" for ?37.99, I don't know what that is in any third world currency like $ or Es. :mrgreen:

/me hides from the rest of the world
Author:  Blu_Vein_Throbber [ Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:24 am ]
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Quote:
you will when you drop packets like shit and get constant massive corruption. Broadcasting packets is terribly insecure and as a result there's a serious lack of data integrity.


I have had the same cable connection since 1999 and I cant see any problem with it. Even if I did drop packets, I dont care. I will redownload what ever I want. I have no bandwidth caps.

I started with @Home, 3MB advertised - 5+MB actual, and then Comcast got me, and capped me to 1.5MB. They reupped me to 3MB at the first of the year.
Author:  spudthedestroyer [ Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:28 am ]
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u have a connection through the powerlines?

cable is not a powerline connection, a powerline connection is where they use your electical plug socket to deliver a connection to the internet as well as power your house. Commercially it is unavailable anywhere that i'm aware of, so I think your getting powerline with cable modem mixed up?

it is not what is known as cable. They are completely different :)
Author:  Blu_Vein_Throbber [ Mon Jun 07, 2004 5:23 am ]
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ok spud, I hate to have to point this out but, we havent talked about a powerline connection since my first post.
:roll: :lol: :lol: :wink:

powerline is commercially available in the US in some test areas
Author:  karstmobile [ Mon Jun 07, 2004 8:28 am ]
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Blu_Vein_Throbber wrote:
powerline is commercially available in the US in some test areas


Yeah, nowhere near me... :evil:

Got it in Ohio if I remember correctly :roll:
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