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spudthedestroyer
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 Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 12:21 am Post subject: Something for releasers to laugh at... |
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Here are the TDX guidelines you hear everyone jibber about, and release groups are bound to its (outdated) fate! 
The TDX guidelines in all their outdated glory
| Code: | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
? ?
? The federation of releasing groups presents ?
? ?
? The DivX Releasing Standards 2002 ?
? ?
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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? Requirements: Notepad with terminal font or other ascii viewer ?
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------?
? +---[ INTRO ]---+ ?
? ?
? In an unparalleled event of co-operation and innovation, the DivX scene ?
? united once again to bring you the 2002 installment of the TDX guideli- ?
? nes. We thank all of you who so kindly gave up time and energy to bring ?
? us suggestions and help us brainstorm on the newest of video technolo- ?
? gies. So without further ado, we present to you, the DivX ripper/enthu- ?
? siast, the TDX 2002 Releasing Standards. ?
? ?
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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? +---[ RELEASE RULES ]---+ ?
? ?
? Movie Length: ?
? - PAL (25 fps) = min runtime is 105 minutes/CD ?
? - FILM (23.976 fps) = min runtime is 110 minutes/CD ?
? - NTSC (29.97 fps) = min runtime is 92 minutes/CD ?
? TV-Series Episodes shall NOT be exempt from these rules (See Series ?
? Notes). ?
? These runtimes are scalable via the following equation: ?
? N cd time minimum = (N-1) * allowed_time where N is number of CDs and ?
? allowable time applies to your format ?
? (i.e. 4 cd FILM rip min = 110 x (4-1) = 330 minutes) ?
? ?
? Media usage is at Ripper's discretion, please use it. ?
? Releases should utilize at minimum 97% of total media capacity, however ?
? an undersized release is not a technical flaw. ?
? ?
? ?
? AUDIO: ?
? - MUST be MP3 or Studio AC3 (AC3 transcoding forbidden). ?
? - MUST be STEREO for STEREO sources, MONO for MONO sources ?
? (MONO audio as STEREO on source is considered a MONO source). ?
? - MUST BE VBR! NO CBR MP3! ?
? - VBR techniques: ?
? - strongly recommended to use --r3mix with LAME ?
? - ABR is considered a VBR technique. ?
? - AC3 MUST be used wisely and correctly. ?
? - AC3 MUST be interleaved at 64 or 96 ms. ?
? ?
? VIDEO: ?
? Keyframe: ?
? - MUST be <=20 seconds and MUST be inserted according to scene ?
? changes and framesizes as determined by the codec or encoding ?
? application. ?
? ?
? Framerate: ?
? - MUST be as close to original source framerate as possible. ?
? ?
? Codec: ?
? - MUST be DivX 3.11 or XviD. ?
? - MUST use 2 pass technique during encoding! ?
? - NO DUPES BASED ON CODEC TYPE, USE INTERNAL. ?
? ?
? Resolution: ?
? - Width: 512 - 640 pixels and MUST be a multiple of 16. ?
? EXCEPTION: 4:3 FS sources may use a minimum resolution of 448 pixels. ?
? - Height: Must be a multiple of 16. ?
? - Cropping is required. ?
? ?
? ?
? Subs, Interactive Menus, Trailers: ?
? - OPTIONAL (if and ONLY if all other requirements have been met). ?
? - VOBSUB is the preferred format due to the fact it does not use ?
? OCR, however, any format that displays with DVobSub is acceptable. ?
? - Subtitles may be MUXED with video stream, but may NOT be BURNED ?
? into video stream. ?
? - Subtitles not muxed into video stream MUST be encapsulated in .rar ?
? file with the MOST compression available and shall be contained in ?
? the directory named 'Subs' and will NOT be packaged with main movie ?
? .rars. ?
? - Subbed is preferred over dubbed. ?
? - Burned subtitles shall only be permissible when the source exhibits ?
? forementioned subtitles in the picture itself (i.e. Subs in the ?
? matte portion of the picture MUST be typed in a seperate file and ?
? the frame shall be cropped). ?
? - Subs on non english movies MUST fit on CD with main movie, all other ?
? optional subs SHOULD fit on CD. ?
? ?
? ?
? Series Notes: ?
? - Episodes shall not overlap on CDs (i.e. 2eps/CD, 4eps/CD is allowed ?
? 1.5eps/CD is NOT). ?
? - Episodes are not subject to the same scaling rules as cinematic ?
? features and must obey forementioned rule. ?
? - Suggested media usage: 4x23min = 1CD, 2x45min = 1CD, 1x60min = 1CD ?
? ?
? ?
? Packaging: ?
? - All releases must be AVI, not BIN/CUE. (see Notes Section) ?
? - Must be packed with RAR, compression is NOT ALLOWED ?
? and broken into 15 or 20 MB volumes ?
? - Recovery record recommended. ?
? - Must have SFV ?
? - Must have NFO ?
? - NFO MUST INCLUDE: ?
? Group name ?
? Title ?
? Actual DivX release date ?
? DVD release date ?
? US theater release date ?
? Video size ?
? Framesize/aspect ratio ?
? Audio bitrate ?
? Video bitrate ?
? Movie runtime/length ?
? IMDB/adultdvdempire link ?
? Number of rars per cd (eg. 44x15MB) ?
? Ripping Method ?
? ?
? ?
? Credits: ?
? - Movie credits are preferred but CAN be cut in order to fit within ?
? 1 CD (700 MB) if the movie length would exceed 110 minutes. ?
? - NOT required in the AVI itself. ?
? - NOT required in the NFO - it is 'recommended' to list the main few ?
? characters as IMDB lists them. ?
? ?
? ?
? Samples: ?
? - REQUIRED ?
? - 1 full minute in length (approximately 10 MB) and in separate folder ?
? marked 'SAMPLE'. ?
? - MUST be taken from the movie - NOT encoded separately. ?
? ?
? ?
? Propers: ?
? - Propers are ONLY permitted in the case of a technical flaw with the ?
? original release (i.e. Bad IVTC, Interlacing, etc). ?
? - Releases not nuked on release lists and/or sites MUST include ?
? original sample of technical flaw. ?
? - Qualitative propers are not allowed, nor are propers based on ?
? decisions made by a ripper (i.e. # of CDs, AC3 or MP3, etc). ?
? - Propers based upon the compliance with new instances of TDX ?
? guidelines are also forbidden (i.e. older rips with 720px res). ?
? - Subbed (in original movie language) propers dubbed (in any language). ?
? ?
? ?
? Directory Naming: ?
? - Directory names shall NOT exceed 64 characters. ?
? - All releases are to include production year. ?
? - DO NOT indicate Ripping method (MM4/VM2/VBR/SBC and so on), ?
? WS (widescreen), DVD/DivX release DATE, GENRE or anything else ?
? in the directory name (ONLY within the NFO). ?
? - Acceptable characters in naming a directory include (NO spaces or ?
? double dots - single dots or underscores ONLY): ?
? ?
? ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ?
? abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz ?
? 0123456789 . -_ ?
? ?
? - All Release directories, regardless of year, shall be named according ?
? to Movie.Name.Year.Source.Codec-Group, suggested naming for the movie ?
? itself shall follow the same procedure ?
? (i.e. Movie.Name.Year.Source.Codec-Group.avi, ?
? Movie.Name.CD1.Year.Source.Codec-Group.avi). ?
? ?
? - Releases that are more than 1 CD will follow these specs: ?
? - MUST be named CD1, CD2, CD3 and so on. ('disc1', etc will NOT ?
? be allowed). ?
? - There MUST be a SFV included for each CD. ?
? - Rars MUST be broken into 2 or more CD volumes. (78 rars of a 2 ?
? disc title will NOT be tolerated) ?
? ?
? ?
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
? +---[ NOTES TO THE RULES ]---+ ?
? ?
? ?
? Source related notes: ?
? - Source shall be DVD Only, no exceptions! ?
? - DVD Screeners shall be clearly marked in the directory name and the ?
? nfo shall contain presence of studio watermarking, or lack thereof. ?
? ?
? Ripping related notes: ?
? - Maximum VIDEO bitrates are covered by length rules. ?
? - Movies should be ripped in their most widescreen format available. ?
? - Multi-language audio tracks are allowed. ?
? - Multiple languages should be interleaved into the AVI, with ?
? a graphedit filter for each appropriate audio stream. ?
? - Movies that would ordinarily fit on one CD should not be made ?
? into 2 CD releases on the basis of additional audio tracks. ?
? - Multi-language audio CANNOT be used as a basis for a dupe. ?
? - Multi-language subtitles CANNOT be used as a basis for a dupe. ?
? - AVI and not BIN/CUE: ?
? - Some people burn to archive and play on a computer at a later ?
? time, BUT since there is no outside purpose other than playing on ?
? the computer, there is NO need to be packaged as BIN/CUE. ?
? - Group Watermarks WILL NOT BE ALLOWED IN ANY CASE. ?
? - NO intros, outros, betweenos, or any other form of defacement of the ?
? movie will be tolerated. ?
? - Movie container MUST be AVI. OGG, OGM, MCF, Project Theora, MP4 are ?
? all forbidden due to bugs and usability factors, maybe next year! ?
? ?
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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? +---[ GROUPS & MEMBERS ]---+ ?
? ?
? TDX 2002 revision was organized by: ?
? - E.L. - V. - f3k - ?
? ?
? Respects to the original TDX, Team DivX, organizers: ?
? - krazy8 - RipKord - Wuman - Lava - MaTaN - ?
? ?
? TDX 2002 has been approved by the following DivX groups: ?
? - AEN - DOMiNiON - DVD-R - EPiSODE - EPiC - INCiTE - MDX - ?
? - QiX - SChiZO - VCDVaULT - ?
? ?
? Also signed by: ?
? - SATELLiTE - InFuX - aNBc - DEiTY - MEDiAMANiACS - DVL - ?
? - CPY - JDX - DDX - REQUiSiTE - SEVcD - FoCUS - ?
? - DiSTORTiON - COLLiSiON - WOT - ?
? ?
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Thought they might interest some peeps as to why things get nuked, and what izonews/nforce, etc. are going on about. This is the latest version as far as I can say....
Aren't you glad you never signed it?
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John_Doe
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 1:28 am Post subject: |
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why don't they update it?
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Jack Deth
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 1:34 am Post subject: |
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While some of that is quite ludicrouse, the naming suggestions make sense.
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 1:41 am Post subject: |
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quite a bit of it makes perfect sense to me, but most of it is ludicrous
Some of it was pretty funny though:
| Code: | ? - NO intros, outros, betweenos, or any other form of defacement of the ?
? movie will be tolerated. ? |
and | Code: | ? - Movie credits are preferred but CAN be cut in order to fit within ?
? 1 CD (700 MB) if the movie length would exceed 110 minutes. ? |
LOL... mutilation is not tolerated... but you can cut off the credits  hehe I liked this one too: | Code: | ? - Movies should be ripped in their most widescreen format available. ? |
I think the biggest problem is that most of it remains out of date so it looks a bit daft as a solid template guide to be used anymore.
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Have the rest of STR even read that? LOL
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PC_Arcade
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:53 am Post subject: |
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I read (most) of them, they're fairly sensible in the main TBH.
As Spud pointed out this line :
| Code: | ? - Movies should be ripped in their most widescreen format available. ? |
Is particularily stupid and is (I assume) the reason there are so many Bad AR nukes and problems with "scene" releases.
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| Code: | ? - Movie credits are preferred but CAN be cut in order to fit within ?
? 1 CD (700 MB) if the movie length would exceed 110 minutes. ? |
Thats John_Doe's favourite scene rule
*cough* Club Dread *cough* 
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:58 am Post subject: |
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I really don't care, as long as they rip good shit!
Noticed DXA beat Sick on a couple films when it comes to release DATE!=)
Ghost House and Undereground Mordum were released within the last week!
/specs are different, but we beat the scene!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Please could someone explain? Must be my bad english, but I don't understand:
- PAL (25 fps) = min runtime is 105 minutes/CD
- FILM (23.976 fps) = min runtime is 110 minutes/CD
- NTSC (29.97 fps) = min runtime is 92 minutes/CD
Does this mean that when I have a film which is PAL and runs naturally 90 min I have to encode it in slow motion to get the min runtime / CD??? Or is 'min runtime' not 'minimum runtime'?
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satan
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:18 am Post subject: |
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wargand wrote: | Please could someone explain? Must be my bad english, but I don't understand: - PAL (25 fps) = min runtime is 105 minutes/CD - FILM (23.976 fps) = min runtime is 110 minutes/CD - NTSC (29.97 fps) = min runtime is 92 minutes/CD Does this mean that when I have a film which is PAL and runs naturally 90 min I have to encode it in slow motion to get the min runtime / CD??? Or is 'min runtime' not 'minimum runtime'? |
the rules suck. I hope that is the point.?
ZBut Notice It's DivX.=)
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paul-scream22
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:23 am Post subject: |
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wargand wrote: | Please could someone explain? Must be my bad english, but I don't understand: - PAL (25 fps) = min runtime is 105 minutes/CD - FILM (23.976 fps) = min runtime is 110 minutes/CD - NTSC (29.97 fps) = min runtime is 92 minutes/CD Does this mean that when I have a film which is PAL and runs naturally 90 min I have to encode it in slow motion to get the min runtime / CD??? Or is 'min runtime' not 'minimum runtime'? |
I think they mean to convey that at those specified run times the MAXIMUM time on one CD can be what they state, otherwise it must be a 2 CD release.
So if SICK had a 119 minute PAL(25 fps) Horror film they would HAVE to do it as a 2CD release. Least what I read it as
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wargand wrote: | Please could someone explain? Must be my bad english, but I don't understand: - PAL (25 fps) = min runtime is 105 minutes/CD - FILM (23.976 fps) = min runtime is 110 minutes/CD - NTSC (29.97 fps) = min runtime is 92 minutes/CD Does this mean that when I have a film which is PAL and runs naturally 90 min I have to encode it in slow motion to get the min runtime / CD??? Or is 'min runtime' not 'minimum runtime'? |
I read that differently to Paul, I took it to mean that anything UNDER those is 105/110/92 mins is one CD, over those run times you HAVE THE CHOICE of doing a 2 CD release, it's not mandatory.
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:34 am Post subject: |
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PC_Arcade wrote: | wargand wrote: | Please could someone explain? Must be my bad english, but I don't understand: - PAL (25 fps) = min runtime is 105 minutes/CD - FILM (23.976 fps) = min runtime is 110 minutes/CD - NTSC (29.97 fps) = min runtime is 92 minutes/CD Does this mean that when I have a film which is PAL and runs naturally 90 min I have to encode it in slow motion to get the min runtime / CD??? Or is 'min runtime' not 'minimum runtime'? |
I read that differently to Paul, I took it to mean that anything UNDER those is 105/110/92 mins is one CD, over those run times you HAVE THE CHOICE of doing a 2 CD release, it's not mandatory. |
Then these rules do suck, because why have a rule that states the maximum run time for a 700MB rip if they're just gonna say, it doesn't matter
Anyway - AGAIN - I wasn't clear or was misunderstood, what I was saying though - If you want to rip to the standards then then a 1cd rip of a 119 minute PAL (25fps) film would violoate those standards and you would have to do a 2 CD rip. Or these not standards but just guidlines?
Anyway think it answers wargand's question.
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| Quote: | Source shall be DVD Only, no exceptions! |
Guess they'd have nuked all the rarest nasties etc then 
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paul-scream22
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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George Tatum wrote: | | Quote: | Source shall be DVD Only, no exceptions! |
Guess they'd have nuked all the rarest nasties etc then |
Not quite George, they can get alot of em in the UK on DVD  - Like f*ck would a download those versions though 
I'm half tempted to PM rippers on this board and come up with the :
G(ore)S(platter)H(orror) Release Standards 
Rule 1) Do the best possible rip, of the most fullest film you can!
Rule 2) If Rule 1 fails - Use Common Sense!!!
Thats good for a start!
Even STR don't have guidlines, becuase we're experienced (as in done alot of rips) rippers, so know what is acceptable and not acceptable.
And can use our own judgement!!!
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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PC_Arcade wrote: | wargand wrote: | Please could someone explain? Must be my bad english, but I don't understand: - PAL (25 fps) = min runtime is 105 minutes/CD - FILM (23.976 fps) = min runtime is 110 minutes/CD - NTSC (29.97 fps) = min runtime is 92 minutes/CD Does this mean that when I have a film which is PAL and runs naturally 90 min I have to encode it in slow motion to get the min runtime / CD??? Or is 'min runtime' not 'minimum runtime'? |
I read that differently to Paul, I took it to mean that anything UNDER those is 105/110/92 mins is one CD, over those run times you HAVE THE CHOICE of doing a 2 CD release, it's not mandatory. |
yes, if you have a 115min FILM, then you won't get nuked for going to a 2cd release. If you put anything that's under 110mins onto 2cds your nuke worthy on the gounds of wasting cds/space/bitrate on something that doesn't need it | Quote: | Then these rules do suck, because why have a rule that states the maximum run time for a 700MB rip if they're just gonna say, it doesn't matter |
Your missing the point, its to stop 90min 2cd releases, there's rarely any point in doing such a thing
Kinda makes sense, of course there are always exceptions.
Filenaming conventions make sense too.
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