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Author:  PC_Arcade [ Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:41 am ]
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http://news.com.com/Prison+terms+on+tap ... ag=st.prev

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File-swappers who distribute a single copy of a prerelease movie on the Internet can be imprisoned for up to three years, under a bill that's slated to become the most dramatic expansion of online piracy penalties in years.


Scary stuff, 3 years in prison for sharing ONE film, thank GOD i'm not living in America
Author:  TaKYoN [ Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:52 am ]
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I say bring it on, they will never stop it.
Author:  tweye [ Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:08 am ]
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Best quote from the article:
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"I don't think this is an approach that is well calculated to create respect for the system."


They're building their own graves :lol:
Author:  TaKYoN [ Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:35 am ]
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Hell yeah tweye. I have said for years they should have worked on a model where by they could easily and cheaply distribute the media online.

I know for a fact if I could download the newest Blockbuster film to watch at home I would have no problem paying for it.

Me, the missus and all the skids can easily spend 80 quid on a trip to the flix, now that is taking piss, especialy with the bland shit Hollywood chucks out these days. If they said I could download a film and watch it on my PC for a fiver say, hell I would pay often.

Obviously I would still procure some in the old school way, but WTF, they would still make cash outta me.

Take the music biz, they were the first to suffer, and it took them so long to get there act together that a whole generation grew up downloading music. I mean FFS I know ppl that never even realised it was illegal LOL
Author:  fierysky [ Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:41 am ]
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The reason why the movie companies don't offer Blockbusters (almost wrote 0-day films :lol: )online is because the movie theater chains would bitch and whine because they'd be losing business. Considering the fact that most people already know how to download movies and would do so anyway if they preferred that over the cinema, they wouldn't be losing a hell of a lot. If a few theaters closed, and I missed out on the obnoxious people who refuse to shut the fuck up during movies, dipshit employees, and a $4 drink, I can't say I'd be all that upset.
Author:  Purple.Nightmare [ Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:01 am ]
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@PCA - things could be even weirder here in europe!! you should take a read here: http://www.melonfarmers.co.uk/cf05.htm# ... Your_Pipes
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Here's a sampler. Under the new code, ISPs would put in place filtering technology to block services and/or sites that are substantially dedicated to illegal file sharing or download services. They would retain data beyond what law enforcement agencies require, with the aim of helping track down copyright infringement. They'd hand that data, plus your identity, over to the IFPI or MPA if there was even a complaint - not a court order - against you for, you guessed it, copyright infringement.(And you'd have signed or clicked something agreeing to allow that.)

Want more? According to the draft, the shits want ISPs and network operators to enforce terms of service that prohibit a subscriber from operating a server, or from consuming excessive amounts of bandwidth where such consumption is a good indicator of infringing activities.
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Author:  TaKYoN [ Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:37 am ]
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Now that would be a major piss off. Your own ISP basically spying on you, fuck that. On the other hand, think of the new ISP's that would show up that specialise in not keeping many records LOL
Author:  spudthedestroyer [ Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:13 pm ]
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Tony Blair has copyright and digital piracy in the Labour manifesto btw ;)

Bear in mind, these are the same people behind the hideously wrong (no other word can say how... well wrong such an act is) e-patents act.

things are getting really fucked up, you know that the mpaa are suing linux distros... f*cking linux distros for bundling software that lets you watch (that's right just watch) DVDs. Since CSS had to be cracked to allow people to watch dvds on their os. Unbelievable. People that know nothing about computers shouldn't be allowed to pass laws on computers, I think they get all their technology information from a weekly mpaa pamphlet... its the only thing that can explain it :?
Author:  shitty [ Fri Apr 22, 2005 8:07 pm ]
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Spud, from what I've been hearing on the radio here in the US, Tony Blair won't matter much longer...

I wonder if one of his kids will be responsible for a failed African coup???

That seems to be a trend withe ex-UK PMs :googley:
Author:  TaKYoN [ Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:08 pm ]
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No offence shitty, but I have noticed that you Americans get quite a distorted view of things over here. Not exactly wrong, but certain points of importance get enhanced in magnitude, others reduced.

Personally I blame the media, your news service just sauces everything up to keep the viewers, or maybe you guys like everything sensationalised?

Whatver the cause and effect, you really wanna know something, ask here. This forum has a healthy dose of smart and keyed up Brits, and we just love to show our intellectual superiority over everyone else :wink:
Author:  spudthedestroyer [ Fri Apr 22, 2005 11:17 pm ]
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hehe, well margret thatcher did make sure we sure as hell got a distorted view too tak :lol:

she sure put an end to politics :lol:

I doubt tony's out, i mean the alternatives are the conservatives (LOL!) and the liberals. Now there's nothing wrong with the liberals really, its just everyone goes, "liberals? what's the point?"

So a rock or a hard place? I don't think the others have even really mentioned technology and cyberlaw so thats that done.

I don't know if i should vote for ficcus?
Author:  ThEdEaDLiVe [ Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:57 am ]
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spudthedestroyer wrote:
hehe, well margret thatcher did make sure we sure as hell got a distorted view too tak :lol:

she sure put an end to politics :lol:


I think Bassline's sleeping with Margret Thatcher as he always tells me how much he loves herImage
Author:  Bassline [ Sat Apr 23, 2005 10:38 am ]
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aww my beloved Margaret :matrix: how i miss her privatising everything that was once great in this country and selling it off to the highest bidder,then how can we forget the all-mighty poll tax she placed upon every member of a household but worst of all the criminal justice bill (CJB) that basically put an end to warehouse/rave parties as it gave the police power to arrest you if you just looked like you may be going to a party...lets see some of the so called rules that bill made.
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The right to ASSEMBLE in groups of ten or more individuals ON PUBLIC or COMMON LAND. In other words, hanging out in a group of ten or more people in a town square, a park, or the sidewalk becomes potentially illegal.

:o

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The right to ASSEMBLE on PRIVATE LAND if the gathering is for the express purpose of listening to music typified by the excessive repetition of a number of beats. In other words, engaging in the act of drumming, listening to rockn roll or any music form containing a high number of repeated beats now becomes illegal


ok so i'm on my own land with a few mates and you're telling me i can't have a party? :evil:

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The right to TRAVEL within the borders or ones country WITHOUT UNDUE HARASSMENT or threat of arbitrary arrest. The bill gives British Police increased powers to question and arrest people based solely on their appearance. In this case the mere fact of looking like you might be on your way to a party involving the playing of repetitive music is a basis for harassment.


yeah i really do love Thatcher :matrix: not saying Blair is any good but i remember the years of hell we had under the tories and my vote will NEVER go that way :mrgreen: [rant over]
Author:  TaKYoN [ Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:03 pm ]
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LOL I am can remember too Basline, just wasn't old enuff to vote.

In my eyes the tories trashed the place when I was a kid, and the Liberals, well, whats the point :wink:
Author:  shitty [ Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:02 pm ]
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Wow...
Sorry for making this political :o

I was just being a wise ass :beerchug:
Author:  TaKYoN [ Sat Apr 23, 2005 2:47 pm ]
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Hey shitty, us Brits just love a mass debate :snigger:
Author:  Dr Phibes [ Sat Apr 23, 2005 10:03 pm ]
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Being a Brit gonna have to put me tuppence in.
Liberals - whats the point
Tory - no fu**in way those bast**ds sold all our houses and used our police force as an army to rip apart some of the great mining communities. It didnt have to come to that. and of course as metioned by Bassline,the poll tax and CJB.
Labour - I'm working class they are supposed to be the party that speaks for us,but i feel let down by things like the war and their stupid benifits system. But not gonna give my vote to anyone else.
BTW didnt know others here were party heads it still goes on despite the CJB I've been to some wicked free parties recently and be sure to be out in a field or warehouse somewhere this summer :rock: :rock:
Author:  spudthedestroyer [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 2:50 am ]
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lol, yeah the politics is to do with there being an election in like 2mins or something rather than mass debating :wacky:

hehe labour aren't a working class party anymore imo, I heard that line, infact they tried that line on me. They done too much to f*ck that up over the past two terms to make me know otherwise.

A single tax rise on the upper classes and a review of the council tax so its better for single home owners, and a bit extra for people with two houses. IMO, liberals are the only working class party around these days, which is a shame, because labour were the people behind NHS, work and public sector reforms of coming up on a century ago, albeit a lot through the guise of the liberals. I think those parties have now well and truely "changed places" (In an alice in wonderland mad hatter dance the parties are all engaged in).

Yup, its ficcus or liberals, conservatives is ... well I can't understnad beyond brainwashing why working class people vote tory. Barring war or recession, they normally make things worse. And both of those two are only in existance in a few hamsters and media moguls minds :lol:

Maybe a two party government is what's needed, sure they struggle to work, but a reliance on the liberals will mean that they're going to have to play ball. The liberals are enough to shock labour back to the routes, and stop all this right wing bumming. Just cos the rest of the world is in the middle of the political oakie-coakie and jumped to the right shames me to think that's where we're going without a statement to say we're not going to take that crap


bah... bloody politics. I'm going to get some popcorn and wait for this BNP ad on the bbc they're apparantly entitled to do, i could do with a good laugh... :lol:
Author:  Purple.Nightmare [ Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:35 pm ]
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@Dr Phibes there R still sum ov us (slightly older one's) that still like a rave or 2 :)

@bassline there still plenty ov underground parties/raves around even in london , not too long ago i went to a 3 day squat party in a large warehouse in north london :wink:
Author:  ChaoticLunatic [ Mon May 02, 2005 12:58 am ]
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Pure hilarity.. Hmmm let's see em lock up 3 million Americans for havin an mp3 on their hard drive. Total bullshit.. propaganda at most.. they cant even fit the real felons in jail anymore let alone half the internet.

What next, they lock up people in the US for spelling their name wrong? sad.. it isnt a democracy anymore.. nuttin by tyrant this government is. :matrix:
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