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ViSCeRaL
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:53 pm Post subject: Al-Qaeda attacks London |
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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This smells Muslimic terror from far away. 
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Urgghh it couldn't have come at a worse time to be honest, what with recent news.
I don't know what to think, its very different to what the IRA thought they were acheiving with such futile acts, and its quite apparant who's responsible; it really does beggar belief what people wish to achieve. It really doesn't do anything for the cause, because its quite apparent that the cause is diminished further each time this shit happens.
At least its not on the scale of madrid, and it was aimed at closing transportation... that's something to be thankful for.
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Lunatic Of Gods Creation Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:37 am Posts: 921 Location: Coroner's Office
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here we go again  ...another wake-up call for the western world
THOSE WHO LONG FOR PEACE, MUST PREPARE FOR WAR
*my sympathy & condolences to victims' families and all brits
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Last edited by vermin on Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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In Hell I Burn Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2004 9:44 pm Posts: 413 Location: The Netherlands
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Like spud, I wonder what those guys think to achieve with this kind of acts. Only thing they seem to accomplish is a rising 'hatred' (hatred is actually fear in most cases) against islamic people or even arabs in general. They only make it harder for any muslim to get accepted in the western world. To me it seems it's the opposite of what they'll want to achieve (world domination).
For the rest: vermin is right. It's probably only a matter of time until things get more and more ugly.
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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The Ancient One Joined: Wed Jun 18, 2003 5:48 pm Posts: 2912 Location: The House On The Edge Of The Park
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i believe they have already achieved what they set out to do. economic damage, London's transportation system shut down and to make people scared to go out.
it is a cowards way to take out innocent people in such a series of attacks.
i don't, for one minute, think this is the last we shall experience either. i hope i am wrong on that though
then again have say since we played like sheep to Bush and went in to Iraq i have been pretty much expecting something like this to happen.
i am deeply saddened by the loss of life and my sympathies and thoughts go out to those affected and their families
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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The market wasn't effected much looking at the numbers, but the effects of the transportational shut down will have the knock on effects.
I think the iraqi think wasn't that huge a motivation, sure it all adds up, but the size and layout of London means it would have been pretty high on the lists anyway I imagine (think about everything in the middle east and the british empire will have one time gone in a royally screwed stuff up at one period in time, to groups just looking for a reason, a bit of time would be of little consequence, remember what Churchill did to iraq back when he was the Foreign Minister). I don't think the invasion of iraq was a very bright idea this second time round, but I'd still think london would be a big target regardless, given the size, population density, transportation network and a whole other truck loads of issues. IRA attacks are nothing new to the city, and there's the biggest underground transportation system in the world too. It unfortunately becomes an easy target for deranged acts of terrorism.
Spain was attacked based on the history with muslims, as is my understanding. They seem to have been attacked just because the opportunity was there, given they weren't in Iraq I don't believe (?). I think the G8 is the most likely target, and with the Olympic bid success, it was just good timing for them.
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:24 am Post subject: |
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Servant Of The Dead Donkey Joined: Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:31 am Posts: 88
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terrorists are pussys....In a way i hope it was suicide bombers so they can endure being blown up like those innocent ppl, if not....they'll get theirs....
they run and hide in caves.
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:57 am Post subject: |
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The core ideology with suicide bombers is that it doesn't matter if they blow themselves up to them... the best thing that can happen is they are captured and imprisoned. They are considered a failure by their family and 'beleif' system. The whole definition of cowardice is the nature of fearing to face the consequences of their actions, I can't think of anything more cowardly.
Quite clearly, and as history has shown over the past few years, they are just looking for excuses to blow themselves up, there's been a few times iirc where failed bombers have blown themselves up rather than be captured, so the ultimate punishment is just to keep them alive in their disgrace, I find it hard to believe that they won't ultimately end up doubting their misinterpretation and definition of God, and then there's the realisation about what a collosal mistake they've made. There's no chance of remorse, but there is a loss of their own being and faith through nothing but their own weaknesses in their belief system. I can't think of a more apt punishment for a so called suicidal bomber than failure/survival and imprisonment.
Speaking of caves, I'm glad Mr Blair said something more productive than "we're going to smoke em out of their caves". At least he still sounded like an alledged leader of some degree, even if i don't agree with his discisions in the past, at least there's leadership skills to his name.
I've been reading around about the various topics on many forums, some of them are totally misguided and using it to just blame every evil and person, and group for it, as well as general trolling. Some seem to just be up in arms and the 'death penalty', kill em, etc. lobby come out, its a natural reflex response and rarely meant of course. Basically, I think its fundamentally a victory for them to see a society violate what it believes in just to take measure in combating terrorism. I think that the current British political system makes it impossible to go too far down this path, it deeply worries me but i can't believe its in Labour's character to do anything beyond talk in any great slide in that way (ie. id cards, etc.). I'd like to believe in liberal good, but there's always been the cases of overbearing and harmful liberal policies, particularly surrounding censorship, and leftist government is of course not free from corruption, but at least there's the premise of fair governance and civil liberty. Reflex conservatism always makes me worry.
I think thats about as much political talk that's apt given the nature of this thread anyway. The whole scenario beggars belief... boggles the mind.
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:19 am Post subject: |
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i know but i bet it hurts to be blown up....theres no way to know what their thinking....they could have regrets u never know.
edit - my remark to caves was pretty much a metaphor for all these scum no matter where their from and what their cause is...they all run like forest.
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:42 am Post subject: |
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Iraq has nothing to do with Al-Qaeda.If any country it would be aphganistan and pakistan since they got sort of broken borders anyways.But I don't see the Iraq thing as any sort of cause..although I am sure they will jump on it to exploit the whole situation.Remember...We still got troops dying in what everyone forgot about in the first place and that is aphganistan.It is all about money and power when you get to the bottom line.It's easy to point the finger at the US and Bush and say it's they're fault to begin with...and perhaps in some aspects we are...
This sort of thing is actually not that bad compared to what it could very well could be and become...Nobody has thrown a dirty bomb or a chemicla or bio weapon at us yet....it is only a matter of time though. 
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:46 am Post subject: |
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Servant Of The Dead Donkey Joined: Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:31 am Posts: 88
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how bout we just all team up and kill em all or nuke em, im down with that ..lol jk about the nuke but it might work lol
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:30 am Post subject: |
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I can't comment...might get me banned from the board with my nihilistic views. 
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:19 am Post subject: |
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Lunatic Of Gods Creation Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:37 am Posts: 921 Location: Coroner's Office
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cowards...these religious fanatics/terrorrist are already living in our countries...hell they're probable born here... (many of those hardcore muslim goatf*ckers living over here in Holland  )... they hate our western "civilization" yet they get education and money from it!
look at mankinds history...war against terrorism?...sounds more like war against religion imo! that scares the shit out of me...you can't fight religion! what would happen if hardcore christians start blowing themselves up?  ...guess it's back to the crusades 
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:40 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | what would happen if hardcore christians start blowing themselves up? |
It would make for entertaining television that's for certain!! 
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:48 am Post subject: |
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DxaKrator wrote: | Quote: | what would happen if hardcore christians start blowing themselves up? |
It would make for entertaining television that's for certain!!  |

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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:53 am Post subject: |
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vermin wrote: | what would happen if hardcore christians start blowing themselves up? |
I'd buy that for a dollar!
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:05 am Post subject: |
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Will Tear Your Soul Apart Joined: Sun Nov 14, 2004 5:55 am Posts: 588 Location: The Wonderland
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EDIT: Just looked at what I wrote and it appeared to me that I'm basically foaming from the mouth and using racist stereotypes and making fun of other people's religion and swering a lot, so I'm not certain if it's appropriate... Anyway, here it goes (it can always be deleted).
I believe Vermin, you hit it dead on... All those (I don't mean all of them) fanatic fucks are already living here, among us and are getting all the profits of it, in many cases they were even born here... If they hate and despise the western culture so much, then why don't they just fuck off? Go back to their deserts and caves, living in tents in dirt, eaten by diseases, fucking goats or camels and choping each other's hands for stealing and penises for looking at each other's "wives", arguing over all that religious bullshit that makes them all so fired up and finally dying as dumb, illiterate scum, believing they lived their lives as they should... If that's what makes them happy and what they think is the only right way to live, why don't they just do that??
Sorry for all the racist (I guess) remarks and swearing... My main problem I guess comes from that that though I hate or despise many things or people, as long as they don't move against me or mine, I'm rather cool with them - or to be more precise, I couldn't give a fuck.... Why can't all those wankers just live their bloody lives happy, if that's what they want? But yeah, I know it's a religious thing, so it not only requires killing other people (as well as your/our own people, of course - just killing a lot of people), but also forcing as many people as you can to live their bloody lives exactly like you say, because it is right... Because you've been in a fucking conference with your god or whatever (who is the only true god) and you know everything best...
And anyway, it is in fact all those fanatic fucks that make life much, much harder for their normal (as in "not religiously fucked up fanatics") 'brothers'... Regular people, who are happy with their lives and want to live them the way they do.... But today everybody looks at (for example) all Arabs as potential (if not "disguised") homicidal/suicidal terrorists, either packed with explosives or with guns, waiting only to blow everything to pieces... What's in it for guys, who have shops or restaurants, who are teachers or police officers (yeah)?? What about their kids, who get a backlash of all that religious bullshit their "cousins" concocted, right in their faces?
Anyway, I love the idea of hardcore christians blowing themselves (or each other) up! As long as they do some place far away, like Sahara, it would certainly make for an interesting spectacle (and probably raise the IQ of the entire humanity for a very, very tiny fraction of a percent), but for that, I'm afraid, I can only hope
But what it is all about is a fucking religion... And I think it is safe to presume that in the entire span of humanity's history, religion has claimed much, much more lives than anything else. Syphilis even.
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:21 am Post subject: |
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spudthedestroyer wrote: | At least its not on the scale of madrid, and it was aimed at closing transportation... that's something to be thankful for. |
I must disagree having seen the latest death toll, although I realise this was written when there were reports of 2 dead 
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TaKYoN
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:47 am Post subject: |
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The Ancient One Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2003 3:28 pm Posts: 4096 Location: Somewhere between dimensions, waiting.
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Over 50 dead and 700 injured. They really do not understand the British mentality at all, action like this will not break us, we are not French, by doing this they just strengthen our resolve.
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