I own all these on DVD, but I would like to know the ed2k:// of the best rips of the alien films out there (with specs and/or url if they are from a site). Having them on dvd means I've not downloaded any of them.

Alien
Alien: Director's Cut
Aliens
Aliens: Director's Cut
Alien 3
Alien 3: Extended
Alien: Resurrection *yuk*
Alien: Resurrection alt. *eww*

Thanks
Spud.dupS

with AC3 5.1:

Alien DC


Alien.1979.CD1.DVDRip.XviD-FiNaLe.avi
Alien.1979.CD2.DVDRip.XviD-FiNaLe.avi
finale-alien.subs-xvid.rar
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Alien 3 Extended


TLF-VIDEO-12.03.03.Alien.3.1992.EXTENDED.DVDRip.XviD-FRAGMENT-CD1.avi
TLF-VIDEO-12.03.03.Alien.3.1992.EXTENDED.DVDRip.XviD-FRAGMENT-CD2.avi
from http://www.fileheaven.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17537&highlight=


Aliens SE

there's Bishop's rip of released @FH but there's still no search function

ah, here it is @SR http://forum.sharereactor.com/viewtopic.php?t=172854&highlight=alien


Aliens_(Special_Edition).XviD.AC3-Bishop.CD1.avi
Aliens_(Special_Edition).XviD.AC3-Bishop.CD2.avi
Aliens_(Special_Edition).XviD.AC3-Bishop.SubTitles.rar
Aliens_(Special_Edition).XviD.AC3-Bishop.VobSubs.rar
Aliens_(Special_Edition).XviD.AC3-Bishop.BSPlayer_Chapters.rar

don't know if they are best though

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Thanks carlos. They'll probably be the better releases. I was going to offer a release of Alien 3 extended somewhere down the line but all of the special cuts are well covered.

Ehm........what about part 4 ? Rip only the new intro if bandwidth is scarse....

number four is a piece of shit, I'm not sure its worth it.

I disagree. With the exception of the end (which is terrible), the 4th film
isn't that bad

OH MY GOD!!!!!!

If my review for Resurrection wasn't wiped you'd get such a telling off. Alien 4 is a travesty, a bad film in a good series.

It's biggest problem stems from wrong director and even worse wrong script director. Joss Whedon f*cked up bad. It wouldn't have been that bad if it wasn't an Alien film perhaps, but it is a bad film.

I'm too tired to write up what's wrong with it in great detail, which i did for my review (got disconnected and when I pressed the back button it was wiped... totally gutted because it rivalled my review of matrix reloaded).

Salvaged from imdb forums about Alien3, with someone having the balls to say Alien 3 was worse than resurrection


I was bitterly dissapointed because Alien: Ressurection which, not only destroyed the atmosphere of an unperfect, unclean and dark future (by inhabiting it with 'cool' oh-so-shallow character's strolling around tinny clean environments); not only ruined the Aliens (Giger was right, it is a real piece of shit [quite literally]) their actions, their characters, their design and the element of horror; not only destroyed up until then a diverse and brilliantly acted universe of truely well written, emotionally deep characters, with unrealistic people acting in unrealistic ways; not only having the most pathetic dialogue I've heard in a long time (it sounded like a shit episode of buffy)... commited a crime against the previous 3 movies. Ripley was treated with no respect at all. In terms of strong women roles in film, there probably hasn't been one more memorable, James Cameron did so much to build her up, and within her first line, Joss Whedon had knocked her down (and that's not an exageration).

A complete disgrace. I'm sorry, I really find it hard to like. It isn't even funny, it isn't even a good action film (it's more like a damn seagul movie, or even worse a chuck norris movie on that level) and most shockickingly of all, doesn't even attempt to be a horror film. I was personally insulted as both a horror fan and a sci-fi fan.

Sorry for going on, but this is more justified than when I go on about things (I would put a smiley here, but I don't want to draw attention away from the fact that this film should never have existed)


edit: Just to clear things up:

Ultimately it's okay (and that's me being very kind), but it should never have been an Alien film... or preferably it should never had existed [beause it is a pretty awful film regardless]. This is the pinnacle of what is wrong with film today, it was produced by Fox to cash in on Aliens for a dumb audience, hired a kiddy script-writer and a director that was willing to do exactly what the studio demanded (and track record has proven that they never know anything... Blade runner, Alien 3, Brazil, etc. )

If at this point I was offered the chance to make an alien film, the first act would be to call it Alien 4 and disown Resurrection as a spin-off (then i'd get back the original writer-producers that worked on the first three), keep ripley dead (as the utmost respect to her character, anything with her in would (and did) completely ruin all that had gone before). Of course then it's a matter of hiring back Giger, then going after the source... the original space craft [the other alien face that were infected with the aliens in the first place (big chest busted alien in the chair in Alien])

oh and to comment on Alien 3. Apparantly the original preview that was shown (this was before reshoots and when they were forced to abandon shooting and return to hollywood because the wankers had set a release date before they even had a damn script ) is supposed to be very gorey and dark. And we are not just talking notourious autopsy, there's supposed to be bucketloads of the stuff.

Oh and Bull burster is better than dog burster (in explaining the alien).

I just wish fincher was given the time to complete the film (or better yet was given a script to work on). Shame he won't come back and give some feedback, or better yet do a commentry on what he wanted.

And finally, the Alien 3 bonus disc is cut by 30 mins This was ordered at the last minute by fox executives because it was 30 minutes of interviews that are very anti-fox and they got very nervous about letting it out.





Since Aliens came out, a lot of people forgot what Alien was all about. It's not a damn sci-fi film, it's a horror film that just so happens to be sci-fi too. The vibe that Alien 3 is worse than it is stems from drones that watch the series because of Aliens wondering why it's not a gun fest, showing a complete misunderstanding of the series. Alien: Resurrection was a hideous mistake that aimed to "rectify it", when it had no right or cause to do so.

Spud, I'm working my way through the Alien Quadrilogy DVD (yeah Fox, quadrilogy's a word )
I'm going to re-watch all of the alien films and see what my opinion is of both 3 & 4 now, I fucking loathed 3 the first time I saw it, I hated 4 less but I will watch both again and see what I think now.

To all the Fincher apologists, he did finish the film, it's called "Alien 3". If he was soo unhappy with it then it would have been an Alan Smithee film.

Alien 3 is a beautiful film, despite its script problems fincher did a first rate job on atmosphere and unlike in the second one, its returned to an INTERNATIONAL future. This was one of the best bits of the Alien films. It's vision of the future is great, it's human and it isn't an Earth movie, boundries and nations don't matter, there's just us and the beast. Alien 4 was a complete mess, a fucking disgrace..., and guess what, another aspect of the original vision destroyed. Look, all americans, look they go back to earth, look it's no longer human but a tinny falsehood and completely crap and unbelievable. I mean wtf was all that stupid shooting at the roof bollocks, I expect that in steven seagull movie, I cringed so much i nearly put my nails through the palm of my hand. Opening sequence --> crap. Ripley's 're-education' --> forced and poorly written. Pirates --> omg, is this a disney movie? Cripple --> joss whedons poor attempt to get you to like the shallow crappy characters, and perhaps the most shameful attempt to make a likeable character I have ever seen in film (didn't it make you feel sick he used someone with disabilities to get your sympathy, rather than creating a truely likeable character like he should have done. It's so offensive that they use him as the only device to make you care about the crew [which didn't work anyway ]). Winona Rider --> moaning bitch of a character. I'm sorry, she's an andrioid? Who cares, she is a disgrace to Lance Henrikson and Ian Holm. Captured human cargo --> now its interesting, or was but is ruined by the handling of the scene. This is basically a kidnap and rape (!!) ffs, and it's handled on a whim and then we are into the crap story again. Ripley playing basketball --> okay scene, but as you might of guess I thought the cloning idea was terrible and ripley's character is destroyed beyond recognition at this point. Queue crap scene with miss rider (cringing again) and then to ripley's tank. Another scene that is terribly scripted and tedious to watch. Slagbot is caught, queue the most pathetic action sequence in the series. This is cheese beyond the likes of Chuck Norris. I walked out of watching it everytime at this point (walking out i hardly ever do). I've lost most interest because whedon has failed miserably to establish even basic likeable characters, situation or plot. Brad Dourif is in this film, you know how much I rave on about chucky, but seriously even this doesn't make it remotely interesting (okay, his character is actually the most likeable but he should be loathesome, he represents the company or he would if Whedon hadn't fucked that up too). The way the aliens escape is probably the best bit of the entire film. Okay onto panic, this is good. They have shit loads of marines, and guns... but they run away. There could have been a massacre, but this was avoided because whedon thinks we care about these pirates... well we don't. Now comes another scene that stands out like a sore thumb in the franchise, WTF is with the grenade camera. I mean in a low budget police-cop action thriller maybe this is okay, or a french dark comedy, but this is not the cinematography standard I expected of the franchise; its a quirky tatty bit of cheap entertainment to appeal to idiots and gun nuts. And the saluting was completely out of place, this is Whedon's failing again... he doesn't understand the need for human characters.

*I'll have to stop here for now, but as you see the film is all wrong and unlikeable even on the most basic level*

I hope I made it clear why I cringed and felt ashamed of watching such tripe. The standards built up by the previous films are pissed upon within a second. I'm not sure how Sir Scott would feel, but I'd be pissed. I know the original creators were pissed, giger was pissed, the crew that worked on the other films were pissed and most imporantly, I'm really pissed at the complete mess. The nerve to put resurrection to assume the franchise needed resurrection with this shit? It's as embarising as Jason X.

Where alien spin-off picks up all it's points is in cinematography and smart directing in places (i'm not against the director in any way, I just believe that it was just wrong for the film [it was right for the script, but the script was a joke]).

I just watched all four of the extended cuts back to back and it shows that Alien 1-3 are superior in every conceivable way to Alien: Resurrection, plain as day, the fourth doesn't even fit in the franchise which is why I would re-clasify it as a spin-off

I didn't particularly like Alien3 first time round, but the watching it now I appericate it a lot more, in fact it is probably very high on my top rated films list (in the top 40 by far now). I watched them all back to back, and not particularly liking it in 1992 when I saw it, watching it in my own time it is very good, still not as good as the first, but it is unique but distinctly Alien. It is a beautiful film, both the ending and the begining are vastly improved, and the major change in the centre of the film fills in the biggest plot hole and adds a part that makes the film work on a whole new level (i think this is what turned it around for me).

Oh and to clarify things, Alien is the best. There's no doubt about that in my mind. Aliens, although not a horror film really but a Sci-fi action is a great film in its own right and easily follows Alien as second best. Alien 3 is an ultra dark and pessimistic view of the future that I love so much in sci-fi, and returns to horror. It's not perfect but it's positive qualities are great, cinematography, acting (on the most part) and dare i say direction [granted i'm that direction changed with the script accordingly it seemed]. Trailing so far behind it's not even on the same page is Alien Ressurection in my estimation. I think I've clarified that it isn't even good, and why i think so.



They already did the credits when he walked out, he has publically disowned it, it's essentially alan simthee, but everyone from here to the moon knows he directed it so there would be little point in making it a Smithee. Although he has disowned it, I sure as hell wouldn't, it's a bloody good film and at least he had the balls to do something different. As for apologists, its obvious there were problems, i don't think anyone is making excuses or anything, merely pointing to the obvious. He was directing without a script but a solid release date for fucks sake, that's something in its own right I think it's summed best on the extras disc, a few people said it, it was along the lines of "everyone knew it wasn't complete but a release date had been set and there was enormous pressure to finish and release for 1992". And the result is still a strong movie; very dark, very gritty. The extended cut is far superior to the theatrical cut, I just wish there was a proper director's cut. There's only one reason it was cut too, Fox said it was too long and told the editor to cut it (fincher was gone at this point)



He quite clearly didn't, watch the extras, not one of the crew or cast thought it was anywhere near finished when they were ordered to wrap up shooting, and by the sounds of it they'd only just got a finished script a few months earlier. It was screened. They were then given a few months to film filler material, this is when the dogburster was added and some little scenes to cover the cuts the studio had ordered (you'll see the great scene that was cut out, the one that fills the huge plot hole of missing characters Hint. straight jacket and the black guy. They just dissapear in the theatrical version ). Alien 3 came out, but it was not finished; production was stopped, the film was edited, the film was released.

The only bad film Fincher has done is panic room and that is a piece of shit. Se7en, The Game and Fight Club are a brilliant (loose)trilogy; alien 3 is very good.

I understand the reservations about Alien3, I wasn't very fond of the theatrical version, but it's harder for me to understand how alien:resurrection is possibly even remotely better (I really can't find positive aspect of it, I've explained why ) If you know what I mean.

You do understand that I want to see it even more now ?

i didnt mind part 4, but didnt particularily like it. felt like it was just trying to appeal to the masses.
part 3 was ok, though it seemed more like it should have been a direct to video movie that was in theatres.

That pretty much sums up my feelings of 3&4, if there's any justice for the alien movies, these should be ignored and the series should go back to it's (Alien) roots.



Everyone knows David Lynch directed the TV version of Dune, the Alan Smithee is there to protest at interference in his film. If Fincher was so unhappy with his film being ruined due to outside interference I would have though it would make sense for him to do the same.

I find it odd, that if you say you don't think alien 4 is that bad you get pilloried, wheras if you think alien 3 is shite, everyone starts bleating on about poor old David fincher and the fact that the film isn't finished etc. I couldn't care less if the film is "finished" or not, it was relased & I paid to see it at the cinema and it was a heap of shit. At that point, how the hell was I, or anyone else supposed to know it was "unfinished"?

Having said that, I'll re-watch both and see if my feelings change, I haven't seen alien 3 since it's initial release at the cinema and ditto for alien 4.

Found these while searching,no idea where or if they were posted anywhere.I know you think 4 is shit spud but I am a sucker for anything with a facehugger in it.My wife actually cried at the end of #4 when it is crying for Mommy to help it from getting turned into space chum.4 could have been better but for that matter it could have been a hell of alot worse.At least they keep the violence factor turned up,maybe more so than any of the others imo,I have always sort of considered 3 to be the weak one out of the series but that is just me here.At any rate here are the links for 4 for those who want the whole series, plus a making of feature that I found looking for the film The Legacy of #1.

ed2k: Alien.-.The.Legacy.-.Making.of.(624.x.352.Xvid.DVD.Rip.VOST).Rip.by.Sensation.avi  [699.80 Mb] [Stats]

ed2k: Alien.Resurrection.1997.SE.DVDrip.XviD.AC3.5.1CH.CD1-WAF.avi  [700.62 Mb] [Stats]
ed2k: Alien.Resurrection.1997.SE.DVDrip.XviD.AC3.5.1CH.CD2-WAF.avi  [700.58 Mb] [Stats]


Probably gonna get horsewhipped again for posting this but what the hell,I am a gluton for punishment.

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my take on all 4 movies

Alien sci-fi thriller
Aliens sci-fi action
Alien 3 sci-fi drama
Alien 4 sci-fi horror guts 'n gore

er, way off with that one, I always saw them like.

Alien Horror/Thriller Sci-fi
Aliens Sci-fi Action
Alien 3 Horror (sci-fi is incidental)
Alien 4 Scif-fi "The One style" Cheesy Action

I think peoples view of Alien is screwed up because they watch Aliens, which is not all that similar to Alien in fairness



Your missing my point entirely, I can see your criticism of number 3 and although I don't agree neccessarily (I can point out what I like about it just as easily as I can go through Alien 4 and say why it's so offensive), I can not see how Alien 4 is even bareable. Alien 3 is a respectable film that is flawed, alien 4 is plain shit, it's so disrespectful and what is so wrong with cinema. Alien3 was never finished, yet it's still pretty decent. Alien 4 had a bigger budget, a finished script and no problems during making; and turned out to be the worst in the series by far, so much so it spoilt the films. Everything the other filmmakers spent building up the series, it pissed on... I mean ruined it. That's all. I don't care if you think Alien 3 is shite, that's your opinion and I'm not going to (and couldn't) argue with it obviously; i do care that you think Alien 4 is a good addition though, because it's the complete opposite to what I thought (and I always have a time conceiving how people can think something that seems terrible is good, it's just courisosity). I found it very offensive to the audience and more so the fans It's a complete crime against cinema.

I mean are you arguing with my review of each scene of the film? I didn't sense any disagreement with it.



Alien 4 and Aliens (yes the second) are the furthest from its roots. Alien --> It's a Horror / thriller, not an action film. The action was developed entirely for the sequel, it wasn't a huge part of the first Alien (which is the roots of the series). So in fairness, if you want to go back to roots, you have to ignore the last 3, not the last two. Aliens was so great because it worked, despite changing the formula to an action film. Just go back and read reviews of Alien before Aliens was released, ones that haven't been tainted by the second to see what I'm talking about. Going back they have seemed to change because of the second and they think it's supposed to be an action film. The studio wants it to be like Aliens, because they made more money from it. That's just wrong, because the first is a better film and a good Horror film. Alien Resurrection changed the formula and fucked up bad, really bad, it's not in the slightest a horror film


ohgo, hope you enjoy it or at least can bare it. I really do, cos i was pretty disgusted of what they had done. Destroy all your expectations of standards of cinematography, plot, script and acting, because its a travesty in each field.

Maybe if you look at it as a spin-off or if you don't like alien, aliens and alien 3, you won't be as pissed off at the Pearl Harbour of sci-fi.

Just went on a trip to imdb, to see how they are all rated. I think it reflects what people think the series is and spotted a great review for Alien 4 (kudos to Gregory Bruce Carlson, good review) :



I don't agree that the fourth is better than no alien, I probably be content if it was a spin-off, but as it sits it's kind of like a cancer on the series. Degrading and devouring. Well at least you guys know what I think.


On Imdb I gave:
Alien - 10
Aliens - 10
Alien 3 - 8 (was a six, but I love the extended cut)
Alien 4 - 4

I never said I though Alien 4 was a good addition to the series, but it's not that bad a film, the series had already been ruined by Alien3. David Fincher betrayed the audience by killing Newt and Hicks before the film had even begun, characters that the audience had invested emotion in during Aliens. Now THAT'S disrespectful, he even kills Ripley FFS!

No-one is saying that Alien 4 is a GOOD film, it isn't, but you can hardly say it reined the alien franchise, Alien 3 had aready done that. I am a little confused as to how you can say "so much so it spoilt the films", are you seriously saying that alien 4 made you think less of the first 2??

As to the genre argument.

Alien - Horror incidentally Sci-fi
Aliens - Sci-fi Action
Alien3 - Horror incidentally Sci-fi (in fact, there is very little technology in this one at all)
Alien 4 - Sci-fi action horror

Alien and Aliens, whilst different genres, still treated the concept and the characters with respect. Alien3 and 4 don't, and that is why (IMHO) they should be ignored if there's a fifth film.

[edit]I've just looked through and with the exception of the fact that I said I hated 4 less, I don't think I've once said that either it or alien 3 were GOOD. I haven't seen the wondrous new Alien3 on the quadrilogy disks YET, so I'm going on the fact that I hated the film when it was released. When I saw number 4 my expectations were significantly lower (having seen number3) and I hated it less than part 3 on watching it. As I have also said, I'm in the process of watching all of the films again so as to have a better view of the films as they are now (including cuts and additions). I may well agree with everything you've said. BUT you have to bear in mind that you're confusing my LIKING of part 4 with my hatred of part 3. Part 3 discoloured the franchise for me, it made me realise that everything that came after was going to be shit if Fox allowed the franchise to be treated so badly.[/edit]

Although disappointing, it's human and its pessimistic. I can see why everyone is pissed, but I'm glad he did it (script writer, not fincher... fincher didn't write it, he just interpreted it like most directors do [all apart from James Cameron who wrote and understood Ripleys character]). Alien 3 couldn't live up to the first 2, but it was bold enough to be different. The act of defiance that was killing Newt and Hicks killed a part of ripley, it was like loosing a Husband and child (again!). She loses hope in humanity. This also brings up the emphasis in the struggle, and the film was a struggle to be made which makes it all the more profound. I can see the point about the emotion invested in Aliens, it was Camerons intention for them to be a family if there was another sequel. But tradgedy and terror is a part of life, and I respect the deciscion to be bold [in the first draft they were killed off I think, which is odd, I would have thought the studio would have demanded them in (well unless they were unwilling to higher them back - Weaver had high enough wages)]. By killing hicks and newt, the atmosphere is all the more dark and gothic. Ripley doesn't want to live but she is once again drawn to the characters, because everyone she knows has died, every single person and she's all alone in a hostile environment (not just the aliens but the prisoners hate her). But in respect, we are drawn closer to Ripley on an emotional level and the script builds up the prisoners. Ripley is amongst more people we know and care about, and each one is stalked and devoured by the Alien. Ripley's last act of defiance, of her struggle against the company is to put the alien beyond their reach once and for all. It was a bold ending, that is vastly improved in the extended edition (the chest burst was a fox decision). In the original script, I thought that ending would have worked better, but it was so radically changed, but at least the decision to kill her, or to more accurately for her to kill herself (she isn't strong enough to do it herself until she is once again alone and facing the company). It isn't disrespectful in the slightest because she acts like ripley, she is still ripley and I couldn't see her act in any other way. Certainly not turn herself over to the company. The added tension of the alien within was a great touch, it was what she always feared, it's what everyone always fears (the aliens rape their host). Notice how it's not just the alien that try to rape her in this film too, another dark turn for the series.

A major advantage here which I thought was great, the series no longer relied on one character, the slate was clean and the next sequel could be unique. Oh but Mr Whedon had other ideas. A shame.






Indeed, James Cameron understood ripley which is what made Aliens work. I agree. Where I differ, and like I explained above is that Ripley is still treated with respect in the third. Maybe it's the situation that people don't like, but I prefer pessimism in cinema rather than optimism. Or rather if it is optimistic it is build up through the darkness of the subject, rather than the fourth which I thought was spoilt by the immediate desecration of Ripley.

I also differ on what you said about ignoring the third and fourth. If there is a a fifth it should be before Alien 4 and take up on what was meant to be. An alien film without ripley, as the utmost respect she has gone full cycle and through the first three she has contributed more to cinema than any other on screen female lead I can recall. Leave her be,

Sorry Spud, I don't know if you wrote the above before of after my edit of the previous post.

I think the only thing we really disagree on is that you think alien 3 is good (because youve seen the new version on the Alien quadrilogy disk?) and I don't. That and the fact I don't think number 4 is as bad as you do.