Kafka's 'Le Proc?s (1962)' or 'The Trial (1993)'

John_Doe

1962 - http://us.imdb.com/Title?0057427

1993 - http://us.imdb.com/Title?0108388

Don't know if this is horror, as I have not seen it, but the book sure would qualify as horror.

Now the old one was directed by Orson Welles, whereas the new one features preformances by Kyle MacLachlan (that guy from Dune and Twin Peaks) and Anthony Hopkins!

d0c · **Posted:** Tue Apr 01, 2003 4:11 pm **Post subject:**

here is the first one...i dont know about the source.....

The.Trial.-.Orson.Welles.-.Satrip.English.French.Subbed.-.Iron.Fist.avi

izac · **Posted:** Tue Apr 01, 2003 9:11 pm **Post subject:**

oh.. just read the book.. pretty cool book actually.. looking forward to see the movie.. (if anyone find any sources)

John_Doe · **Posted:** Wed Apr 02, 2003 12:01 am **Post subject:**

izac wrote:

oh.. just read the book.. pretty cool book actually.. looking forward to see the movie.. (if anyone find any sources)

SPOILER!!!

well, the book had an awesomely looooong buildup and I was so looking foreward to see how it would end, and how he would explain all the weird going-ons, but then it all just ended in like half-a-page or something? no explaination, no nothing.. maked me wonder if perhaps Kafka wasn't that smart after all, but really just a weird weird guy with problems. Also read that he actually didn't want the book published himself, and they picked it up from his trash or whatever...

Polityk · **Posted:** Wed Apr 02, 2003 5:15 am **Post subject:**

It's perfect the way it is, imagine what some trivial ending would do to this brilliant book. And definitely with this book every ending WOULD seem trivial. The point is not to know!
I'd love to see the 1993 version, it has some really great actors. I'm going to put a request on fileheaven if you haven't done this yet, perhaps someone could rip it.

izac · **Posted:** Wed Apr 02, 2003 2:55 pm **Post subject:**

Polityk wrote:

It's perfect the way it is, imagine what some trivial ending would do to this brilliant book. And definitely with this book every ending WOULD seem trivial. The point is not to know!
I'd love to see the 1993 version, it has some really great actors. I'm going to put a request on fileheaven if you haven't done this yet, perhaps someone could rip it.

yes.. exactly.. john_doe.. if the end said it all that would ruin the hole thing.. the thing with the book is just the unknown and it doesn't spoil the story...
i like books that doesn't explain it all.. then you have to use your brain.. you know :eatthis:

John_Doe · **Posted:** Thu Apr 03, 2003 6:04 am **Post subject:**

izac wrote:

yes.. exactly.. john_doe.. if the end said it all that would ruin the hole thing.. the thing with the book is just the unknown and it doesn't spoil the story...
i like books that doesn't explain it all.. then you have to use your brain.. you know :eatthis:

yeah, I see what you're sayign, that's the same reasons why I love Donnie Darko! But this book I just didn't get.. I felt it was written as a big build-up to a climactic ending, but there was none. just like when some station cancel a TV-series without airing the last episode.

But please come foreward with the spoilers, and explain it all to me. My brain only works on saturdays, if there's a girl with big breast nearby.

I also read that kafka wrote the beginning and the end first, then he wrote the middle. don't know what that means though...

izac · **Posted:** Thu Apr 03, 2003 11:58 am **Post subject:**

hehe.. i understand you.. in some cases it could be very enoying with that kind of endings...

explain? hmm.. i don't think kafka wanted you to understand, really.. That's the "beautiful" thing with this book.. the without knowing thing..

John_Doe · **Posted:** Sun Feb 29, 2004 4:24 am **Post subject:**

now, how aboot the 1993 one?

Some Random Dude · **Posted:** Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:58 am **Post subject:**

The one with Jeremy Irons?

Kafka.1991.DVDRip.DivX-QiX.avi

John_Doe · **Posted:** Sun Feb 29, 2004 3:20 pm **Post subject:**

nope. http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0108388/ with Kyle MacLachlan (twin peaks dude) and Anthony Hopkins. Still, thanks for the link. =)

Polityk · **Posted:** Sun Feb 29, 2004 5:33 pm **Post subject:**

Some Random Dude wrote:

The one with Jeremy Irons?

Kafka.1991.DVDRip.DivX-QiX.avi

This is not an adaptation of the book.

lostintown · **Posted:** Sun Feb 29, 2004 8:42 pm **Post subject:**

I reckon I could rip it if you want...got a copy of the 1993 one somewhere...

Polityk · **Posted:** Sun Feb 29, 2004 8:44 pm **Post subject:**

I requested it some time ago on FH, no reply though. If you rip it, I'll be the first one in your queue for it.

John_Doe · **Posted:** Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:11 am **Post subject:**

cool. =)

emoboy · **Posted:** Mon Mar 01, 2004 9:18 am **Post subject:**

yes, yes! /me wants a rip!

btw you?re right, Kafka didn?t write the book in one piece, there are also some fragments he didn?t work out till his death, in some issues they?re included. he asked his friend and publisher Max Brod to burn all his stuff after his death, but already being relatively popular at his time, Brod recognized his talent and published it.
if you expect an explanation i don?t think you?ll get one and i would suggest a less literal reading.

lostintown · **Posted:** Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:26 pm **Post subject:**

okay....I'm on it

emoboy · **Posted:** Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:33 pm **Post subject:**

i found i already have a version, it?s this one, with separate english audio, i probably joined the english one later and deleted the spanish track.

Polityk · **Posted:** Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:52 pm **Post subject:**

I've seen this version floating around, but I'm much more curious about the one from 1993...

lostintown · **Posted:** Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:16 pm **Post subject:**

Okay its up

:mrgreen:

http://forum.dead-donkey.com/viewtopic.php?t=3169

hope you enjoy it!!

Kafka's 'Le Proc?s (1962)' or 'The Trial (1993)'

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