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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:14 pm  Post subject:
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killingjokezzz wrote:
Simple, concise and sums it up perfectly.


Thanks for the compliment. No need to beat reasons into someone's head. Better to advise in a general way and let them find out themselves. :mrgreen:


Oh and on a side note, and granted I take no offense, but why can't anybody spell my name right? :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:12 am  Post subject:
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karstmobile wrote:
Oh and on a side note, and granted I take no offense, but why can't anybody spell my name right?


Shoot me down in flames and shove a red-hot poker up my arse. :moon: Dude I'm sorry. I guess I'm not the only one to misspell your name, but I've always read it as kartsmobile. Something about Go-karts and vehicles have stuck in my head for some reason.

F**K, maybe I am dyslexic after all :wink:

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:50 am  Post subject:
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killingjokezzz wrote:
... Something about Go-karts and vehicles have stuck in my head for some reason.


That's what I was thinking it was, and again I don't mind. :)

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:14 pm  Post subject:
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You know, this whole edonkey is faster thing still confuses the crap out of me. I would be interested in knowing if its just me.

I shut down emule and use bt and all that jazz, but i always get at least 100kb/s in total, normally its closer to 150-200kb/s average when running emule.

Yesterday, i took a look at a random time and I had about 16 downloads, 4 of them were over 20kb/s, one of them was ~56kb/s average (20kb/s from 3 peers). The rest were between 2kb/s and 20kb/s.

My upload is rather crappy, but i was also uploading (only what i was powersharing) at ~18kb/s.

When i used edonkey it never had as many concurrent downloads, never had as many sources and although it downloaded at reasonably rates it was far less consistant. With the crap design, awful gui, and lack of features I still have trouble understanding exactly how and why its preferred.

I understand when your new to the program you always look hard for stuff to hate, kind of like a "why should i switch". However, the above speed of download startig is almost immediately, okay it staggers a bit and goes to 50kb/s, then 100kb/s then faster the longer you leave it on, but i don't get downloads sat there not transferring.

I do download a lot though.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:31 pm  Post subject: Thinking of switching from ed2k to emule...convince me.
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k so ed2k is the only p2p I've used on this site for like a year...well basicaly for horror in general, I use bittorrent for other stuff. So is emule much better for this site? like would i get more sources and better speeds? I usauly just stick with what works for me but every1 here leans towards emule for the most part so i was think of trying it out. I hate learning new programs, dont have much patience for messing around with software i'm not used to. I'm guessing emule has the same interface as ed2k or is it alot different.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:58 pm  Post subject:
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Okay to answer the questions in order.

a) not just this site, for everything to do with ed2k network. Emule is pretty much queue up lots and lots of files, then leave it running and you'll complete loads. just like edonkey, except imo it works better.
b) for definite on teh first part, some claim they get better speeds on edonkey, i think this is a complete falisy, in my opinion its perhaps delusions of difference or more likely just misconfiguring emule (or selective/unfair usage)
c) well if it works, don't fix it is a valid ideal. However i prefer, if its not as good, don't use it. That leaves the pursuit of perfection available.

I would say you'll be hard pushed to find a user of this site that prefers edonkey for a solid, documented reason... you'll find if you can't download it or have trouble finding sources and you state your using edonkey you will get a reply stating "why are you using that shit?" or "that's your problem". As such, as a rule I'm inclined to note edonkey configuration isn't supported, and when people have tried, they always end up getting the advice to switch to emule with about a kagillion reasons why.

The interface of emule is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better, I mean we are talking leagues better. The edonkey2000 look and feel is really flimsy and crappy, it feels like its very buggy and cellotaped togather whereas emule looks like a solid C++ gui. You'll see what i mean when you look at it. it actually looks like a program should and not some well, i'll leave it at that.

The interface is different, you have the same servers tab, and shared files tabs, you also have your download tab which is split into 'categories' if you so choose. I have for example, default, horror, video nasties, godzilla, scifi, movies, games, applications, music, network and misc. You can just view flat lists of files and everything, but it works much better this way and i can filter horror movies into a folder called horror.

Upload is dynamic and robust, you can view people on queue, people downloading, people uploading to you, every client you've ever seen, etc.

The options are far more comprehensive and just better.

Its open source which means there's mods an improvements from here to infinitity.

So I pose the question i did moments before you posted your thread, why, given its almost across the board inferiority, is edonkey better? Beyond the quaint replies of devotee's, i've yet to comprehend or understand why. I've heard its faster as a reply a few times, and whilst you may get one file downloading slightly faster (which i am completely unable to confirm since i don't get this behaviour), you get a lot of files downloading across the board faster in emule i'm pretty sure you'll find (i get this behaviour when i run emule).

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:18 pm  Post subject:
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well...u sold me spud. which is the best ver.? Just from emule site or is there a lite ver or what? Oh ya and ya i get good speeds for ed2k sumtimes up 70k's which may not be much for compared to other p2ps but for rare horror its awsome. but whatever no harm in trying sumthing that more ppl use.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:26 pm  Post subject:
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hehe, yeah i'm a good liar :wacky:

Seriously though, that's just the tip of the iceberg as to why i think there's no competition.

As for best version, that's entirely subjective. I like morphXT mod, you can find that by going to http://emulemorph.sourceforge.net/ . Has some tweaks that put it above official client.

As for lite versions, the whole concept is completely foreign to emule. its free, open source and none-profit, you won't get adverts or spyware. There's no need for advertising or other such spam, that's another problem with edonkey... its spun for a profit, ad supported and half of the support is for that reason. if you like emule, they have donations links up on the homepage, however, like most good things, you don't get any form of badgering or forced payments, it really is donations only.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:34 am  Post subject:
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thx spud. i finaly got around to checking it out and its working pretty slick.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:40 pm  Post subject:
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I was wondering what the most popular server to connect to e-mule is. I've been connecting to Razorback 2.0 with ok results. Just curious as to which ones most of you connect to. Thanks, Bip. :eatthis:

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:09 pm  Post subject:
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Same as you if i can, but honestly it shouldn't make any difference after a while, just don't connect to any MPAA servers!!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:44 pm  Post subject:
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Out of interest, does anyone use emule over a wireless connetion?

Does it work as well as wired?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:46 pm  Post subject:
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mmm, answered my own question. it runs like shit on wireless :matrix:

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:05 pm  Post subject:
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wireless networks suck for heavy traffic... latency is through the roof, datarates are low, etc. its the latency that's the problem though.

They suck at everything, except for the convience of not having a wire.

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BT for me has no issues and works equally as well as wired over wireless... at least for the occasional file download via a neighboring unsecured wireless network... :lol:

I could imagine emule sucking donkey balls though...

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:26 pm  Post subject:
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BT isn't as persistant connection based as emule, amongst other things.

BT = grab tiny bits of files as quickly as possible, from as many peers as possible
ed2k = talk to, receive and queue for large bits of files. there's also the less centralised peer finding, and then overheads of server communication, peerlists, comments, etc.

Hence why bt is presumably more favourable for wireless connections since your latency does effect things but only ickle bits independantly.

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