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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:31 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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I'm thinking about that, yeah. In my case it will mean buy new hardware and install everything, as my current HDD isn't worth mentioning.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:44 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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I've got a dvd that's pure ntsc, digital cam and has that edge combing... whats the best filter and matrix to use on that?

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http://www.evilshare.com/4f4ab8fa-c5c1- ... a0c993e9d6 (15mb)

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:53 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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downloading the sample, but if its Digital Cam pure NTSC, then TempGaussMC is your best friend: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=133826

its slow and it hurts, but its by far the best filter for that type of video.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:27 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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BTW, your sample is progressive :o
and it has stairstepping artifacts... TempGaussMC is not the solution. I'll try some antialiasing filters.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:23 am  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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got a starting point? its pure NTSC, and i think the stepping is from mpeg2 compression.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:33 am  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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AnimeIVTC(): http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=138305

you don't need it for IVTCing, but this filter has also some great antialiasing functions:
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Very good combing removal and anti-aliasing functions (can be called externally as nnediaa() daa() and maa())


I'd try nnediaa()


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:22 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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giving it a whirl... i've applied the filter before resizing and also used convolution3d since its rather noisy

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:25 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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Trying to do some ripping again, but I get the following problem:

After ripping the DVD in File mode with DVD Decrypter, I'm preparing the VOBs as usual, but I get loads of blocking errors and motion errors and some other error which escapes me now. I already tried to rip it a second time, but the result was the same. It is not the source: the DVD itself doesn't display any errors. What can I do to solve this problem?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:23 am  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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Use AnyDVD. DVD Decrypter fails if the DVD is protected by newer technologies.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:44 am  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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Mmm, the DVD is not that new, so I doubt it is protected by newer technologies. I tried AnyDVD, but for some reason it flashes the window and then disappears, so I can't take any action with it. Maybe I should go look for a newer version or something, mine is 4.1.0.1, so...

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:36 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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Tried with AnyDVD version 6.4.5.6 and gotr the same result. It turns out that if I rip the DVD to my IDE HDD I get these errors, when I rip it to the SATA HDD it doesn't.


New problem: when I want to do a compcheck, everything is fine (editing the avs, previewing, etc) until I want to press OK to start the compcheck, then I get an error: Failed to get data for 'use_bvop'. Any recommendations?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:24 am  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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elguaxo wrote:
AnimeIVTC(): http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=138305

you don't need it for IVTCing, but this filter has also some great antialiasing functions:
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Very good combing removal and anti-aliasing functions (can be called externally as nnediaa() daa() and maa())


I'd try nnediaa()


I used the following script:
#  PLUGINS
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\UnDot.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\Convolution3d.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\GordianKnot\AviSynthPlugins\nnedi.dll")

import("C:\Program Files\Video\Scripts\AnimeIVTC.avsi")
import("C:\Program Files\Video\Scripts\TempGaussMC_alpha3.avsi")
import("C:\Program Files\Video\Scripts\MCBob.avsi")

# SOURCE
mpeg2source("D:\encodes\soldiers of the dead\soldiers of the dead.d2v")

# CROPPING
crop(2,64,716,352)

# NNEDIAA
nnediaa()

# RESIZING
spline16Resize(656,352)

# DENOISING: choose one combination (or none)
Undot()
Convolution3d("movielq")


but still have stepping... anything else that can be done?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:36 am  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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Sure. I'm taking a look right now.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:41 am  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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This looks good on your sample:

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DGDecode_mpeg2source("H:\videos\samples\spud\sample.d2v")

nnediaa().maa()

crop( 2, 62, 0, -60)
Spline36Resize(656,352)


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Encoded sample: http://omploader.org/vcHI5/sample.mkv


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:48 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:52 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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Slayer wrote:
New problem: when I want to do a compcheck, everything is fine (editing the avs, previewing, etc) until I want to press OK to start the compcheck, then I get an error: Failed to get data for 'use_bvop'. Any recommendations?


For anyone who is interested, I found this: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=80158

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:17 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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I have this movie in the ripping process which shows blockiness in high motion scenes during "Preview". So, I assume I'm gonna need a deblocking script. I found this one, but it says it is for h264. Is it also suitable for XviD? Or do I need a different one?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:28 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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It's not for h264, it's based on h264 deblocking routines. You can use it, but it's pretty strong, so you will lose details.

Since you are not posting a sample, I can't guess what kind of deblocking you'll need. I'd stat with Deblock QED MT2 like this:

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deblock_qed( quant1=20,quant2=24, aOff1=2,bOff1=4,aOff2=4,bOff2=8 )


use it before cropping or resizing.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 4:48 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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Thanks for the link. I uploaded a sample to be sure, could you take a look?

Vobsample

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:52 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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Deblock QED MT2 (see link above) + dfttest do a decent job:

Comparison:
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when the amount of blocks is too high it fails, but if you want to get those few very blocky frames you'll kill all the details of the good frames:
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Script:
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Import("D:\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\DeBlock_QED_MT2.avs")

DGDecode_mpeg2source("H:\videos\samples\slayer\SampleWarrior.d2v")

deblock_qed( quant1=0,quant2=45)

crop( 0, 0, -2, -4)
Spline36Resize(720,400)

dfttest(tbsize=3,tosize=1)


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