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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:12 pm Post subject: Creating subtitles |
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The Ancient One Joined: Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:13 pm Posts: 7871
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Because I have a British documentary on my country in World War II and I want to show it to the kids, I need subtitles for it. I searched around and found Subtitle Workshop.
The question is: is Subtitle Workshop the best option to easily create subtitles? Or is there another, better, easier way?
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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The Ancient One Joined: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:49 am Posts: 2624 Location: Chernobyl
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Subtitle Workshop is really good. Thats what I use to spellcheck the subtitles I download although when I created the subs for metropolis, I did them manually as I hadnt discovered any proggies to help me at the time.
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Lunatic Of Gods Creation Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:51 pm Posts: 1017
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ok, lets clear out somethin here: spellchecking stuff you download = NOT 'creating' subs
@slayer is what badbugs said what you want to do, or do you want to make subs from scratch => typing all the txt down & timing it to the video??
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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The Ancient One Joined: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:49 am Posts: 2624 Location: Chernobyl
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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The Ancient One Joined: Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:13 pm Posts: 7871
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I want to make subs from scratch => typing all the txt down & timing it to the video.
Thanks guys, and don't get mad at each other.
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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The Ancient One Joined: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:49 am Posts: 2624 Location: Chernobyl
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You'll find this program very helpful in doing this, its always going to be a ballache & it will take you a while
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Lunatic Of Gods Creation Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:51 pm Posts: 1017
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as I asked...
so you did some tl from german to english, & used the original timing of the file => yet again: this is NOT creating, its simply translating
no offence meant m8,but I'm a fansubber, I know what it means to create & time/typeset subs from scratch; thats why I wondered what exactly it was you have done
@slayer: I prefer aegisub
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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The Ancient One Joined: Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:13 pm Posts: 7871
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Why? What does it do better?
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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The Ancient One Joined: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:49 am Posts: 2624 Location: Chernobyl
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antropomorphic wrote: | as I asked... so you did some tl from german to english, & used the original timing of the file => yet again: this is NOT creating, its simply translating |
Again... Read It AGAIN!!!
Timed from where ? What subtitles Did I Translate? There was no german subtitles to translate & if you knew the film & did your research about the film I was talking about (& I added a link for you )then youd realise that there is intertitles during the SILENT film in German so whether you like it or not, I CREATED the english subtitles from scratch for this film, timing & all.
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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Site Admin Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2002 1:35 am Posts: 19756 Location: En España
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As a fansubber myself, i usually get bored and do something else
Muchas, respectas, etcas.
Now how about whipping me up some subs to the latest asain crap so i can understand wtf is going on?
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Lunatic Of Gods Creation Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:51 pm Posts: 1017
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spudthedestroyer wrote: | A
Now how about whipping me up |
will do
@spud: why? I prefer the interface & its very easy to typeset /do kara with
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Site Admin Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2002 1:35 am Posts: 19756 Location: En España
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@antro, I assume you didn't mean me with the @spud bit
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antropomorphic
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Lunatic Of Gods Creation Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:51 pm Posts: 1017
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oops indeed, I meant @slayer
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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The Ancient One Joined: Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:13 pm Posts: 7871
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Whoa, I've been translating and typing subs now for the documentary. It lasts 53 minutes and it took me around 5 hours up to now. I still need to sync them...
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Lunatic Of Gods Creation Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:51 pm Posts: 1017
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that'll take you 50 hours if you have never done it before (and if you want to do it right that is, without framebleeds etc...)
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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The Ancient One Joined: Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:13 pm Posts: 7871
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Wow, that sounds nice. Thanks for the encouragement
I have a feeling that it will be less than 50 hours because Subtitle Workshop is gonna help me.
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Lunatic Of Gods Creation Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:51 pm Posts: 1017
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of course, I was only kidding
most subtools do a fairly decent job, but (and I'm talking strictly from an obsessive fansubber's point of view ) it usually needs some manual tuning
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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The Ancient One Joined: Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:13 pm Posts: 7871
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Of course, the machine is never perfect (because it's made by man).
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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Will Tear Your Soul Apart Joined: Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:08 am Posts: 577
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So what exactly does the Subtitle Workshop do ? I'm creating a subtitle from scratch right now and what a painstaiking job it is..I'm doing it the "old school" way..first trying to translate a sequence with dialog into decent english text..then trying manually to time the text with dialog...I'm using a old srt text from another movie, delete the text and change the time..
Can I upload a avi file in the program and slow down the speed with a timeline? That would help I think to see in slowmo when the speech stops and ends...and maybe copy the time into the srt so I don have to write it ...
Link to the program ?
...and can somebody help me with the translation into decent and correct english ?
I found out that about 4 seconds is a proper time for 2 sentences and 2,5 to 3 seconds on one sentence..is there a golden rule ?
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:38 am Post subject: |
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Lunatic Of Gods Creation Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:51 pm Posts: 1017
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over at the group, we use a lead in of 5-10/100sec & the same lead out (without framebleeds of course. mainly, coz the human brain hears faster than it reads
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