Need Help With Ripping?

ThEdEaDLiVe · **Posted:** Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:47 pm **Post subject:** Need Help With Ripping?

I downloaded a full dvd off of usenet and i ripped it last night but because of the length of the flick(I'm guessing) and me wanting to keep it at 700mb the bitrate was way too low. It's one hour and 43 minutes and the bitrate came out at 812. I also went with the usual 128 mpeg layer 3 for the audio. Now do i need to sacrifice some audio to get the bitrate up or do i need to change something in gnot? Here is some screens of how i did it...

DVD Information

Gnot Information

I also de-interlaced the file but i noticed there's 2 options of de-interlacing and i went with Field Deinterlace instead of Field Deinterlace(no blend). What's the difference between them?

Bassline · **Posted:** Sat Oct 09, 2004 5:05 pm **Post subject:**

812 as a bitrate is OK yeah it could be higher but i've seen good rips with less to be honest,it all depends on the movie really......are there lots of high/fast action scenes or what?......one thing though...it says it's a 4:3 movie right?...but your AR is 1.90:1 a widescreen AR?......maybe a (4:3) AR of 512x384 or higher would be correct or maybe i'm talking bollocks :wacky:

ThEdEaDLiVe · **Posted:** Sat Oct 09, 2004 5:28 pm **Post subject:**

Yeah it doesn't look too bad...

Bassline · **Posted:** Sat Oct 09, 2004 5:57 pm **Post subject:**

so it is actually a widescreen presentation?.....screenshots look OK

avatar · **Posted:** Sat Oct 09, 2004 5:59 pm **Post subject:**

these are the specs of the rip that's already on the mule. so you can compare with yours:

AVI File Details
========================================
Name............: The Ritual.avi
Filesize..........: 699 MB (or 716,572 KB or 733,769,728 bytes)
Runtime.........: 01:38:28 (147,696 fr) at 25.000 FPS
Video Codec..: DivX 3 Low-Motion
Video Bitrate.: 851 kb/s
Audio Codec..: 0x0055(MP3) ID'd as MPEG-1 Layer 3
Audio Bitrate.: 134 kb/s (67/ch, stereo) VBR LAME3.91
Frame Size....: 576x304 (1.89:1) [=36:19]

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:06 pm **Post subject:**

its up on the frontpage. Its kinda blocky but not overly.

ThEdEaDLiVe · **Posted:** Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:34 pm **Post subject:**

spudthedestroyer wrote:

its up on the frontpage. Its kinda blocky but not overly.

Mine is kind of blocky or the one on the frontpage?

I guess i can't really up the bitrate any then without increasing the filesize unless i reduce the audio quality. I see also that that one on the frontpage is ripped in DivX 3 Low-Motion so i figured i'd download the full dvd and practice ripping it into XviD. First time i've done a full dvd so i wanted some tips and pointers mainly on how i made out.

Yes this is a widscreen presentation Bassline.

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Sat Oct 09, 2004 8:47 pm **Post subject:**

well, audio should be a max of 128kb/s VBR here, it doesn't say what setting its at.

Bitrate should be an absolute minimum of around 800kb/s mostly, but your going to get blockiness around here.

However, your resolution is your problem! Its way too high, see where its at 0.178, try and get it higher, you should aim for around 0.181+. Reduce the resolution to 512 or 544 and I think you'll get a much better result.

ThEdEaDLiVe · **Posted:** Sat Oct 09, 2004 9:21 pm **Post subject:**

Finally the knowledge flows Spud :lol:

Is shows above that i used 128 vbr mp3 for the audio so i will try lowering the res to what you said and post back.

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Sun Oct 10, 2004 4:15 pm **Post subject:**

Don't go below 128 vbr.

ThEdEaDLiVe · **Posted:** Sun Oct 10, 2004 4:48 pm **Post subject:**

Well i ripped it again using a resolution of 544x288 and left the audio as is and it still ended up at a bitrate of 812. I also used 0.216 bits/pixel. How can the bitrate remain unchanged?

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Sun Oct 10, 2004 5:26 pm **Post subject:**

bits/pixel is more important than bitrate, don't worry about it.

You may want to try 512 though

Bassline · **Posted:** Sun Oct 10, 2004 5:40 pm **Post subject:**

528x288 or 512x272 should give you a nice AR

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Sun Oct 10, 2004 5:43 pm **Post subject:**

noooooooooooooooo! not 528, that isn't divisible by 32 is it? You shouldn't really do a horizontal res that isn't divisible by 32, not if you want full compatability.

512 or 544 only.

ThEdEaDLiVe · **Posted:** Sun Oct 10, 2004 5:54 pm **Post subject:**

Well i'm trying 512 right now and will see how it looks.

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Sun Oct 10, 2004 6:02 pm **Post subject:**

just for the record, the reason why 32 divisible res is needed is because it uses significantly less CPU power to decode so makes for a better rip

What deinterlace filter are you using? For PAL, this one is claimed to be best:

Quote:

SeparateFields()
Bob()
SelectEven()

ThEdEaDLiVe · **Posted:** Sun Oct 10, 2004 6:27 pm **Post subject:**

I'm not sure what filter it is. Where do you look to find out? This one is NTSC so which one is best for that?

ThEdEaDLiVe · **Posted:** Sun Oct 10, 2004 10:16 pm **Post subject:**

Ok. Here's the new rip using 512x272(.243bits/pixel,bitrate 812). I will post the old screenshots with the new ones to see if there's any noticable difference.

First Rip Screenshot

3rd Rip Screenshot

First Rip Screenshot

3rd Rip Screenshot

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