Another prob with GKnot

Dr Phibes · **Posted:** Sun Jul 03, 2005 8:13 pm **Post subject:** Another prob with GKnot

OK here's the prob
Left GKnot working while i went out, get back and the pc is locked,no screensaver running, no access to TM, nothing. GKnot is 38% second pass but have no choice but to reset pc. Have no idea what caused it but on restart eveything seems ok so i try again the next day only GK gets to the end of the first pass and i get
VirtDubMod Error FastwriteStream couldn't open"drive/folder/filename.avi" The operation completed successfully.
*click*OK
Then another message
VirtDubMod Error Cant open "drive/folder/filename.avi" The file is empty.
So I tried uninstall/reinstall and tried a tv episode off of a dvd (to cut the time to see if it happened again. It did :matrix:

So uninstalled/reinstalled again and also did same with Xvid but to no avail.
Even worse I did a compessibilty test and not only did get same thing but GK shut itself down
Any help much appreciated
:beerchug:

antropomorphic · **Posted:** Sun Jul 03, 2005 8:26 pm **Post subject:**

have used gnot also

try fairuse,5clicks and you're done :wink:

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Sun Jul 03, 2005 8:57 pm **Post subject:**

i wouldn't really bother with fairuse.

looks like your projects settings are wrong, you do click reset after every project right? I don't have it on this comp, but isn't there a button to delete registry settings under options too?

Normally uninstalling then reinstalling sorts everything out anyway

Geezus · **Posted:** Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:29 pm **Post subject:**

*Esteemed prof.Ohg0d grabbing the mic*

Frankly ,no one knows exactly what's causing this...len0x of autoGK fame certainly doesn't - his advice ends at blaming the latest divx codec or trying to change vdubmod version....

However , someone found a solution to his particular situation :

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as its an iteroperability bug report

Yes, because if real time scanner is swich off then everesyng works perfect. Also i have test it on few PC's with xp sp2 and Symantec 10 - on all of them the same problem.

PS: Probably today i will have time, then I try to compile VirtualDubMod in debug mode and trace till error occurs.

Ok... just find the solution:
in the file FastWriteStream.c function FastWriteStream::open look so

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bool FastWriteStream::open(const wchar_t *pFilename, DWORD flags) {
if (GetVersion() & 0x80000000) {
hFile = CreateFileA(VDFastTextWToA(pFilename), GENERIC_READ | GENERIC_WRITE, FILE_SHARE_WRITE, NULL, OPEN_ALWAYS, flags, NULL);
DWORD err = GetLastError();
VDFastTextFree();
SetLastError(err);
} else {
hFile = CreateFileW(pFilename, GENERIC_READ | GENERIC_WRITE, FILE_SHARE_WRITE, NULL, OPEN_ALWAYS, flags, NULL);
}

return hFile != INVALID_HANDLE_VALUE;
}

but I think monitor from symantec required read access, so if change

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hFile = CreateFileW(pFilename, GENERIC_READ | GENERIC_WRITE, FILE_SHARE_WRITE, NULL, OPEN_ALWAYS, flags, NULL);

to

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hFile = CreateFileW(pFilename, GENERIC_READ | GENERIC_WRITE, FILE_SHARE_WRITE | FILE_SHARE_READ , NULL, OPEN_ALWAYS, flags, NULL);

it solve the problem.

ofcourse if you don't run symantec .....well....never mind all this :wacky:

Dr Phibes · **Posted:** Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:07 pm **Post subject:**

Geezus that has to be it, I recently updated to symantic 10
Now my prob is I don't understand one word of the solution :oops:

can anyone translate that down to something i might understand :oops:

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:20 pm **Post subject:**

Dr Phibes wrote:

I recently updated to symantic 10

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Now my prob is I don't understand one word of the solution :oops:

I thought it was pretty clear myself, uninstall that trash

Hes talking about editing the sourcecode for virtual dub mod and recompiling, but the real answer is that piece of shit 'security' software is intruding on the functioning of virtual dub and causing it to crash. Just dump that shit, I don't know what the point in these runaway 'security' programs are these days to be frank.

trash it

Dr Phibes · **Posted:** Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:11 pm **Post subject:**

Not clear to me :oops:

He doesn't say dump Symantic what he's saying is fu*k about with GK again.
GK is the most uninstalled/installed pieces of software i have ever used It seems most of the problems lie with GK.
If i need to find new AV for my pc to replace something that has kept my pc free from virus for 4 yrs well TBO i think i'll give up ripping.
I installed symantic after reading many posts on this site and FH and a few security sites, I dont understand why it's a "runaway" security prog. It's just AV, no pop up blocker, no firewall nothing but AV.
I will not be dumping something thats kept me virus free for the last 4 yrs. The people at GK need to make their prog less fickle, you only have to get something slightly wrong and hrs of work are fu*ked.
Don't get me wrong it has to be the best when it comes to ripping but it's a pain in the ass so unless someone else has any suggestions I think i'll call it a day as far as ripping goes

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:00 pm **Post subject:**

its resource usage is exponential and it intrudes on the usage of your pc? What part of that is not out of control? There's smaller programs that do the same thing without dialing home OR PREVENTING YOU FROM USING PROGRAMS. That's like saying just because you never got attacked, zonealarm is a good firewall, even though it cripples your connection when using p2p LOL!

GK works fine for me, I rarely have these problems but i don't install any shit software like symantic on my system. The only time i have to uninstall is when I install a newer codec that isn't supported by the program, or a piece of software that intrudes on gknot (the latter i did once and promptly removed the said piece of software). I have a bit more respect for the pc to install stuff that cripples the use of my pc :lol:

Then again its got windows xp on it.

Dr Phibes · **Posted:** Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:35 pm **Post subject:**

yes well we all learn as we go along and sometimes your help is as cryptic as the problem. I had never seen a pc close up untill maybe 6 or 7 yrs ago and have had to teach myself by trial and error and by reading up on different things when stuck. Or by asking at places like this. I installed symantic after reading posts here and elsewhere that generally it it is a good free AV that doesn't come bundled with norton crap.
I'm sure GK does work fine for you look at this site and the front page they are awesome you evidently have a great deal of knowledge of pc's writing codes or whatever it is, and i'm sure you can recognize a shit piece of software instantly, not so for me but i try my best.
And your suggestion as a replcement ?
:beerchug:

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:43 pm **Post subject:**

I use NOD32 and am very happy with it (and it doesn't interfere with anything to the best of my knowledge)

Dr Phibes · **Posted:** Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:50 pm **Post subject:**

Ok d/l nod32 as we speak will try it.
Ver 2.12.3 is the one i'm grabbing of the mule and i'm presuming this is a pay prog not free. any probs with updates ?

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:55 pm **Post subject:**

As long as you set it to update virus signatures and not the main program it's fine

Spud may disagree with my choice of Virus Scanner BTW, but it's been good for me.

Dr Phibes · **Posted:** Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:04 pm **Post subject:**

PC A as long as it works and i can use GK i'm happy. All gets a little confusing for me sometimes knowing whats the best this or that and why it's the best :lol:

DxaKrator · **Posted:** Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:29 pm **Post subject:**

Stick with Gknot then...It is pretty hard to go wrong with it once you know what you are doing...Fairuse is crap to me...and Auto Gk is for people that are either to lazy to figure out gknot or just plain to stupid. :lol:

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:36 pm **Post subject:**

all virus scanners share the same level as crapness to be frank, on many fronts a) they only know a virus with definition, a virus is neither a good thing or a bad thing, it is merely code that meets a few parameters b) the applications don't know every virus c) most of the time they're just having a guess hence all the false reports of viruses, its just how much of your pc it hogs and how much it interferes with your pc usage that you can rate how well they are.

The number of viruses they find is hogwash because all the big ones report false postives, when the content is safe, but its telling you its not. Norton did this all the time. The truth of the matter is that all of them can catch all the really harmful viruses, but the freeware solutions do so in a more efficient and succesful way.

An integrated package, that being firewall/virus scanners/registry checkers/etc. all in one are generally worse in each field and higher in resources than several smaller freeware alternatives.

Anything that interferes with legitmate pc usage has no right to be on anyones pc imo, some people tolerate it.

In this particular case, your 'security' program is brute forcing its way into the program and trying to read/change memory from underneath the program and then forcing the program to crash because it can't access it. Since these type of runaway programs intrude on the actual memory the other applications are using, and in some cases alter it, the software its violating rightfully loses its state and crashes, or if its programmed well, displays a message and shuts down. I think here, your runaway program has tried to read virtualdubmods memory, which its vdubmod isn't letting it do (ironically, this is a safe/secure action to take), then your security program is locking access to that memory reference. Virtualdubmod tries to read the memory but can't so crashes. This is all the fault of your 'security' program since its got a bug in it, but that's the problem with intrusive realtime system scans, as well as slowing your machine that is.

This is why you see the "Close down your antivirus software" incidently, since the antivirus software very often try and take the applications resources from beneath its feet.

For the sake of a security flaw that isn't there, its unworthy of being on your system imo.

Dr Phibes · **Posted:** Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:34 pm **Post subject:**

Spud wrote:

on many fronts a) they only know a virus with definition, a virus is neither a good thing or a bad thing, it is merely code that meets a few parameters b) the applications don't know every virus c) most of the time they're just having a guess hence all the false reports of viruses

For all my inexperience I have for a long time thought about that

Quote:

In this particular case, your 'security' program is brute forcing its way into the program and trying to read/change memory from underneath the program and then forcing the program to crash because it can't access it. Since these type of runaway programs intrude on the actual memory the other applications are using, and in some cases alter it, the software its violating rightfully loses its state and crashes, or if its programmed well, displays a message and shuts down. I think here, your runaway program has tried to read virtualdubmods memory, which its vdubmod isn't letting it do (ironically, this is a safe/secure action to take), then your security program is locking access to that memory reference. Virtualdubmod tries to read the memory but can't so crashes. This is all the fault of your 'security' program since its got a bug in it, but that's the problem with intrusive realtime system scans, as well as slowing your machine that is.

Ok i understand that or at least it makes sense.
Thanks for taking the time to explain I feel more easy about trying something else if I know why I'm doing it.
Sorry to be a pain and BTW any recommendations ?
:beerchug:

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:36 pm **Post subject:**

oh come on, anyone who knows how to use emule has at least some level of experience. I wasn't getting at you or anything, its just i always view stuff on the pc as not worth doing if it doesn't work or have any gain and secondly like here, make the pc do what you want, not end up working for the pc.

As far as my recommendations are, I have a firewall in hardware form but before that kerio was pretty straightforward after an initial setup. If you have a hardware firewall, you can make do with a virus scanner and peerguardian if you think you need an ip filter.

Virus scanners, AVG, Bitdefender (with firewall turned off!!), and any host of freeware do the job as well as the commercial software (that only exist through force of company, not the quality of their product). A virus scanner should have a 'memory scanner' in it, which is as intrusive as it should get, thats only to check the files being access for content (and there you should have a look at telling it what to scan, ie. there's no reason to have it scan .txt or .ini files, or your emule part file doler). If you cripple norton, I'm not overly against them, i just think it uses too much of the system and keeps too many .dlls in memory for the job its doing... as long as you cripple the firewall and all the other crap it bundles apart from register/active memory scanners.

That's about all you need, I have no firewall on this pc, I have a blocklist on my emule pc and currently i'm trying clamware (free) for a virus scanner.

I haven't received any viruses by mail but it will block them no doubt, just like bit defender is.

You may wonder why such intrusive programs exist. The real reason is corporate needs, if you run a pc with 7000 bank details on your need some overblown all guns blazing piece of tyranical software to keep things safe, home users don't really need that kind of robocop justice (ED-101 style :lol:

).

PC World say otherwise of course, but then again, where would they be if they started telling customers that actually, freeware will be a better option... i'll put that in smiley form:
:suicide:

Dr Phibes · **Posted:** Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:18 pm **Post subject:**

Problem solved

Many thanx Geezus for pointing out that post and thanx again Spud for your paiteince.
Am trying bdefender as it's free so can update.BTW it doesn't come with a firewall anymore at least the free edition from the site doesn't.And no RTVS so does that mean it only picks up a virus when u scan. It says Virus Sheild not available so i guess i set it to scan once a day

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:34 pm **Post subject:**

thats no good then, you really should run the virus shield if your worried, since that's like the 'real life' blocker so its pretty useless without it

Try this one, should work fine

http://www.fulldls.com">http://www.fulldls.com/torrents2/BitDef ... ulldls.com).torrent

Nod32 should be pretty solid though, use that one if bitdefender doesn't work out. The 200 revision just came out so i dunno if its a genuine cracked version.

Dr Phibes · **Posted:** Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:43 pm **Post subject:**

Was a bit worried about the virus shield and i dont use bt so i'm gonna put nod32 on
:beerchug:

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