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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:04 pm  Post subject: Adding Commentaries, Etc.
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Hey guys,
i've only recently started downloading avi files and i'm now starting to convert some of the hard to find ones into a dvd format to view on my machine. I've noticed that a lot of them have commentary tracks you can download separately. I use WinAvi video converter to make the conversion and what i was curious about was, how in this process would i add the commentary tracks so that they are accessable on the dvd?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:41 pm  Post subject:
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I use WinAvi video converter to make the conversion and what i was curious about was


Problem number 1, very crummy program.

Download CCE and encode using that, its slightly harder to get to grips with, but their are detailed guides, and the quality will be infinitely better.

For creating the DVD menu, download DVDlab, its pretty simple setting up program chains with that (a chain is, for example, it will play a certain video, with a certain audio).

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http://www.dvdrhelp.com for some guides btw, there's a couple on http://www.doom9.org too.

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thanks, i'm actually familar with both of those sites.
i dont know how i managed to come across that program to use it but i'll try these new ones. Is cce the name of the program or does it stand for something?


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Well if you emule search for CCE you'll find it but it stands for:
http://www.cinemacraft.com/eng/sp.html

Basically, as far as industrial strength encoders go, this is likely to be used on a butt load of encoding jobs for making retail DVDs. Its just one of those programs. TMPGenc does the same thing but more user friendly, but the pay off is visual quality.

DVDLab is where you make all the menus and link up all the audio channels.

The basic procedure is:
1) convert your avi to MPEG2 with CCE, you'll probably need a Avisynth script to do this, here's an example of one i used for a PAL DV avi -> PAL MPEG2:
Code:
#  PLUGINS
LoadPlugin("D:\Programs\Video\Encoding\GordianKnot\AviSynthPlugins\dgdecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\Programs\Video\Encoding\GordianKnot\AviSynthPlugins\KernelDeInt.dll")
#LoadPlugin("D:\Programs\Video\Encoding\GordianKnot\AviSynthPlugins\FluxSmooth.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\Programs\Video\Encoding\GordianKnot\AviSynthPlugins\UnDot.dll")

#  SOURCE
AviSource("I:\Capture\indy.avs")

# COLOUR FORMAT
ConvertToYV12()

#  DEINTERLACING (1)
KernelDeInt(order=1,sharp=true)

# NOISE
#Temporalsoften(2,3,3,mode=2,scenechange=6)
Undot()

#  CROPPING - 720x576 to 704x570
Crop(6,2,704,570)

# BORDERS
Crop(0,0,704,570).AddBorders(4,0,4,0)


Basic steps were, 1) load in avi 2) probably not applicable but i needed it to work with my avi 3) deinterlace 4) noise filter 5) crop 6) add the borders (since mpeg2 can't maintain the AR without the borders).

For a downloaded avi, assumingly its well made, you'll only need to:
1) load in avi 2) resize up so the horizontal resolution is 720 3) add the boarders on to make up the remaining pixels at the top and bottom so its full DVD resolution.

You then load this into CCE, the options are a bit of a blag, but DVDrhelp covers exactly what you need to set.

Hit encode, and then many hours later you will have the best possible MPEG2 video possible.

Next you need to do the audios, mux it out, use AC3Machine (front end for besweet... see dvdrhelp), convert all your audio tracks to AC3.

The next stage is to boot up DVDlab, make up some menu images, some pictures and the like (there are once again guides on how to make them, and about usign layers) import the buttons, then load in your 1) MPEG2 files 2) AC3 files.

Drag them onto a chain, along with any other audio channels for it. Then you go back to your menu, look at which button you want to load the commentry with, and then link that up to your chain with video 1 and audio 2, for example.

These are in the guides but i thought a crash course might explain the processs. Takes ages, but once you have a standard Avisynth, from then on, you only need to change the amount of border to add on and change the menus in dvdlab and that's it, but the quality will be far better in the end.

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oh and whilst on the subject, once you get CCE installed, you can use DVDrebuilder, without a doubt the single best DVD9 to DVD5 encoder imaginable:
http://forum.dead-donkey.com/viewtopic.php?t=8014

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DVDRebuilder is the best ! :mrgreen:

dvdshrink sucks big time compared to it

i know, i tried both

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DVD Rebuilder is amazing :D

It's so much easier than the other programs that use CCE, and because it's CCE it's f**king fantastic quality :beerchug:

Highly recommonded to anyone who wants dvd9 -> 5


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