Finally DUAL LAYER is HERE!

John_Doe

Nec ND-2510A isn't that expensive at all!

? DVD-R: 8x
? DVD-RW: 4x
? DVD+R: 8x
? DVD +R9: 2, 4x
? DVD+RW: 4x
? CD-R: 32x
? CD-RW 16x

Waddaja say?

I'm not satisfied with my current Nec ND-1300a at all though, so I'm a little sceptical about buying a new Nec drive...

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2004 8:27 am **Post subject:**

NEC2500a is even cheaper and is the same drive, all you need to do is flash the firmware.

Paul and I have one all flashed and just waiting for media

paul-scream22 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2004 9:17 am **Post subject:**

Sure have PC_Arcade, and on the hunt for media, with a close eye out :twisted:

Although I just saw in my Local Store that the Nec ND-2510A is selling for ?79.99

Which isn't bad for a first release of dual layer hardware.

Where are the discs though

#EDIT#
I mean NEC's First Dual Layer Drive, I know that Sony and others have had drives out for a while

#EDIT#

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2004 9:38 am **Post subject:**

http://www.blankdiscshop.co.uk/acatalog ... _HERE.html

First item, looks like we wont have to wait too long now

Out of interest Paul, are you using + or - media nowadays?

paul-scream22 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2004 9:48 am **Post subject:**

I'm using +R nowadays, as they are the cheapest branded discs I can get.
Think the majority of discs I've bought have been +R.
What about yourself?

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2004 9:53 am **Post subject:**

Still using -R, but I'm about to change to +

Do + media work OK on xbox?

paul-scream22 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2004 9:58 am **Post subject:**

Well I don't have the Samsung drive in my xbox *mutters under breath*, but all the xbox (game) ISO's I've created have played fine.

I have trouble getting xbmc/xbmp to read them but again those are one offs!

I've had no real trouble reading +R's on the old xbox :wink:

ohgodnotanotherone · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:50 am **Post subject:**

No NEC stuff comming in my house ever again :matrix:

the last 2 months , I too have finally gotten problems with that 1300 ; getting Fixation errors like no tommorow.....

ah well....

Only one more month till that philips PCA posted somewhere arrives...

Emperor · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:58 am **Post subject:**

PC_Arcade wrote:

NEC2500a is even cheaper and is the same drive, all you need to do is flash the firmware.

Paul and I have one all flashed and just waiting for media

Where can i find this frirmware??? i have an nec2500 myself also and would be nice to burn dual layer

paul-scream22 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:06 am **Post subject:**

Windows Flash - http://herrie.rpc1.org/downloads/2510215.rar

Dos Flash - http://herrie.rpc1.org/downloads/2510215d.rar

You can find all the info and peoples responses to flash attempts here :

<a href="http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?t=25904" target=blank>NEC Dual Layer Firmware Flash Thread</a>
Thats the thread PC_Arcade pointed me to, and the flash worked fine for use both :beerchug:

Jack Deth · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2004 2:12 pm **Post subject:**

Has anyone botherd to look for media - it ain't out. Not to mention several sources are saying DL media will cost a significant premium above DVD5. Something to the tune of $13.30 US dollars or there abouts in Japan where the stuff is mostly manufactured per disc. It's not worth it right now. For that I could buy the damn DVD movie as most are between 12 - 25 dollars.

Also I wouldn't spit on a NEC drive (you do realise NEC is Packard Bell) much less taint my PC with one. Hence my Sony DRU-530A DVD burner (burns 8x DVD5-R and 8x DVD5+R 4x DVD5+-RW after the firmware update).

John_Doe · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2004 2:59 pm **Post subject:**

media has been for sale here for some time:

http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.asp?sku=114189&cks=PRL

http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.asp?sku=300721&cks=PRL

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:04 pm **Post subject:**

komplett uk have them too (although they're one HELL of a price)

http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=300721&cks=PRL

paul-scream22 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:05 pm **Post subject:**

hhhmmm My norwegian isn't the best

Quote:

Verbatim DVD+R Dual Layer 8,5GB, 2.4x (Metal AZO) 5 stk Jewel Case @ 865 Kroner

That adds upto ?70 in the UK, so is that for 5 :-o

paul-scream22 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:06 pm **Post subject:**

Cheaper then the Norway Komplett PCA :wink:

But for 5 blanks at those prices - NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jack Deth · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:24 pm **Post subject:**

Like I said - price premium. 13.30 per disc is the price in Japan, expect higher elsewhere.

One benefit is that this should drive the cost of DVD5's down further. I can already find DVD5's for around .50 cents a piece in 50 packs for 4x media and 1 dollar for 8x media.

BTW notice how none of your links have any available. These won't be shipping till late this month and not in any quantity.

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:33 pm **Post subject:**

These are in stock :
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=114189&cks=PRL

paul-scream22 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:38 pm **Post subject:**

PC_Arcade wrote:

These are in stock :
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=114189&cks=PRL

I'll go halves with you on that order PC_Arcade

Lets hope the price drops quick, but like Jack Death says, we can all enjoy a decreased price in Single Layer discs in the mean time

But come on, clearing up 8GIG of downloads in half an hour is going to be cool

Jack Deth · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2004 5:27 pm **Post subject:**

LOL 2 in stock.

Figure roughly twice the capacity of a DVD5 at 2x. Gonna take a nice while to burn about 40 min. I'll just wait for DL media to hit 1 to 2 bucks a piece. The price just isn't worth the added storage. You can buy double sided DVD5's for less than that.

Anyway, CCE 4 pass can pretty much mean shrinking an entire DVD9 to fit on a DVD5 is nearly if not lossless. To be honest I never really did care about extras so i just rip out the movie to another DVD5 and use no compression. But I'm a DTS ES whore.

Emperor · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:10 pm **Post subject:**

paul-scream22 wrote:

Windows Flash - http://herrie.rpc1.org/downloads/2510215.rar

Dos Flash - http://herrie.rpc1.org/downloads/2510215d.rar

You can find all the info and peoples responses to flash attempts here :

<a href="http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?t=25904" target=blank>NEC Dual Layer Firmware Flash Thread</a>
Thats the thread PC_Arcade pointed me to, and the flash worked fine for use both :beerchug:

Ill will have a look thnx for the link

Btw u guys haven't experienced any problems while burning these two layer discs? and can you also return to the old firmware, when it doesn't function propperly?

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