Holy Crap! *GOOD* DL Burner hits the market!

Krug · **Posted:** Fri Sep 10, 2004 3:15 pm **Post subject:**

I bought the NEC 8x one from SVP a few days ago but not installed it yet.

I used to use a 4x NEC, and rarely had problems or coasters, so hopefully this one will be good too...

...but should I have bought the Pioneer? :wacky:

ViSCeRaL · **Posted:** Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:10 am **Post subject:**

Krug wrote:

...but should I have bought the Pioneer? :wacky:

Yes.

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Sat Sep 11, 2004 2:21 am **Post subject:**

your choice, I just would word a voice of caution to read up on reviews to know what your getting

sparhawk · **Posted:** Sat Sep 11, 2004 9:15 am **Post subject:**

Got the pioneer yesterday - no problems so far and have used one very expensive dl disc - plays back fine on the pc.

Happily archiving stuff now at 8X.

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Sat Sep 11, 2004 11:42 am **Post subject:**

spudthedestroyer wrote:

your choice, I just would word a voice of caution to read up on reviews to know what your getting

The weird thing is though the NEC get excellent reviews. I've had two of them though (1300 and 2500) and they were bloody terrible.

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:50 am **Post subject:**

mmm, not THAT good, mines being returned this week

ViSCeRaL · **Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:56 am **Post subject:**

What's the problem PCA?

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:58 am **Post subject:**

It's freezing my whole PC at the point at which it changes speed, i.e @ ~7% of the disk when the speed goes from 6x to 8x my entire PC just locks up

ViSCeRaL · **Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:26 am **Post subject:**

Hmm, I've got some 8x Datawrite media (still using up the 4x), maybe I should try a burn and see if I get the same problem.

Still on stock firmware too, in anticipation of a rpc1 version.

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:31 am **Post subject:**

TBH I think that trying that 16x4all firmware was what started the problem, I went back to v1.10, but the lockups still happened

ViSCeRaL · **Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:37 am **Post subject:**

*makes mental note not to try 16x4all firmware*

:lol:

Krug · **Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:43 am **Post subject:**

spudthedestroyer wrote:

your choice, I just would word a voice of caution to read up on reviews to know what your getting

Well I did read a load of reviews before i placed my order, I'm not that stupid or rich. Actually, of the reviews and comparisons I did read, most people preferred the NEC. I'm sure I read the Pioneer even uses NEC parts! But it was very close between the two. The NEC is faster though

I'll feedback when I get round to installing my one...

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:47 am **Post subject:**

I hope the pioneer doesn't use NEC parts, I've had 3 NEC drives (2 models 1 was replaced under warranty) and they've all been utter shite.

Krug · **Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:03 pm **Post subject:**

I just checked again, and the Pioneer really does use the same NEC chipset as mine!! :lol:

But PCA, I think you need to start treating your drives a little better :wink:

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:11 pm **Post subject:**

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I just checked again, and the Pioneer really does use the same NEC chipset as mine!!

That would explain why I'm having to return it then :roll:

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But PCA, I think you need to start treating your drives a little better

hehe, please don't tell the rspcdvd :-o

ohgodnotanotherone · **Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:39 pm **Post subject:**

:rage: Got my new Benq last weekend and burning more toasters than a french chef cuisine ever since.... :rage:

Though I will not put the finger on the drive yet.....

Ever since I installed that new nero to comply with sp2 everything went beserk.....I thought my NEC hadgiven up completely...
Oh , cd-r just burn fine...... :evil:

Data verification:
ERROR! 1 file inaccesible ! crap....
Read somewhere a unproper uninstall of a older version of nero *might* cause it.....

That crappy 4X dvd+r media might also have some blame to carry.....
Dvddecrypter reads it as 3.9x media

I'll get back to you on this...

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:53 pm **Post subject:**

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ERROR! 1 file inaccesible ! crap....
Read somewhere a unproper uninstall of a older version of nero *might* cause it.....

I used to get that EVERY OTHER disk with the NEC, i'd be interested to know if you can solve that one ohgod.

ohgodnotanotherone · **Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:23 pm **Post subject:**

No - I haven't found the leak yet....

But take a look at this :

http://www.nero.com/us/632012038142166. ... EC&lang=en

*OFFICIALLY * ( and thus legally ) the 1300 , 2500 NEC drives and my new shiny BenQ are NOT supported by nero

...though .....However thanks to SmartDetect? technology, even if a drive has not been registered, it should still be supported.

:evil:

.....I don't.......FUCKIN' Believe this......

EDIT: what really gets on my nerves is finding nothing but praise for my benQ drive.....as being the only 16x burner and all that... :evil:

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 6:43 pm **Post subject:**

@krug, using NEC parts doesn't mean shit, this is what happens all over the electronics business. If it meant anything other than jack shit, then performance for everything would be the same, but it sure as hell isn't. Your totally over simplifying it to the nth degree. The problem is, even if they use the same small parts, the architecture is completely different, if it wasn't you could flash the drive to be NEC, and the NEC to be pioneer. They are completely different from the base level up. And its proven that pioneer are more capable software engineers since their firmware is so good

What your saying is really silly, the place you probably read it was probably at fileheaven where i corrected the person for not knowing about electronics

It doesn't mean dick, plextor will have "nec parts" in too, but they sure as dick are better than any other drives in their category.

Interestingly, can you post me to these reviews that favour NEC? The ones that you made sure weren't written before the pioneer was on the market.... thats the only time NEC drive gets praised, when it was the better drive when it had no real competition. Comparison reviews all point to high error rates and slow reading.

@PCA, they better not check the firmware, it voids the warranty flashing to a different configuration

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:48 pm **Post subject:**

spudthedestroyer wrote:

@PCA, they better not check the firmware, it voids the warranty flashing to a different configuration

I should be OK, I flashed back to v106

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