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Author:  sickboy [ Sat May 08, 2004 9:59 pm ]
Post subject:  pioneer 107
ive read some great things about this dvd recorder and ive now seen it for sale at ?65 inc vat seems like a bargain but im unsure wheather to wait for duel layer burning dvdr or just to go for this one, i know spud mentioned the chance of a firmware upgrade to make it a duel layer burner but untill that is a fact im still unsure......mabye il just hold on a month or two, damn i want 1 though :(
Author:  spudthedestroyer [ Sat May 08, 2004 10:53 pm ]
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Pioneer demonstrated dual layer DVD-R writing (at 2x) using modified DVR-A06 at CES. They demonstrated it by putting 100Mb of video on each layer (200mb total) and having it run on a standalone DVD Player (Pioneer DV464). they made chapter 1-3 on layer 0 and 4-6 on layer 1 and demonstrated rapid switch between layers. They said although dual layer DVD-R format isn't finalized it should be playable on most standalone DVD players and DVD-Rom drives already in circulation.

Interesting part in all this is, the A06 unit they used was only modified via firmware, they claim no hardware change was made from regular A06. Also they have no plans to release modified firmware, yet.

original article with pictures (in japanese)
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/ ... /ces06.htm


http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?t=24105&highlight=
http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?p=106921


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Pioneer demonstrates dual layer recording at CES, only firmware modification needed
Posted by Jan Willem on 12 January 2004 - 15:33 - Source: AVWatch


Pioneer has demonstrated dual layer burning during the CES, the technology exhibition in Las Vegas. The company succeeded recording to two layers DVD-R in October 2003 and now firstly publicly demonstrated the technology. In the booth of the RWPPI (RW Products Promotion Initiative) they wrote 100 MB to each layer. The discs were read back by a normal DVD player.

Intresting however is that the company used a Pioneer A06 burner with only a modified firmware. According to the company only a firmware modification is needed in order to make a DVD-R drive write dual layer discs. The disc was written at 2 speed. The DVD-R dual layer specifications have not yet been passed by the DVD Forum.


DVD-RAM roadmap promises 5 times writing speed in 2004
Review added: mediaGear external optikGear DVD?RW

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/8861
Author:  sickboy [ Sat May 08, 2004 11:23 pm ]
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thats prolly the clincher for me then cheers spud :P
Author:  spudthedestroyer [ Sun May 09, 2004 12:05 am ]
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bare in mind though, of course they will be a lot faster come xmas, and there is no garantee they will release a firmware.

The fact of the matter is, however, that this year, when they previewed how dual layer burning will be done, they used a Pioneer 106 ;)

I myself am holding on till I upgrade this year. I'll be getting another pioneer probably unless there's a better make/model released. I supsect it will be the 108 or something by then.
Author:  Bassline [ Sat May 15, 2004 6:57 pm ]
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i've finally taken the plunge and have ordered a pioneer 107 :-o

but it's ok since i've not paid for it all (parents wanted some dvd's so they went halves with me i'm such a cheapskate :lol: )so will upgrade to a dual layer (if the 107 won't) at a later date :mrgreen:

i had a quick chat with maxpayne about what software is easiest to use to copy DVD's and he gave me a few idea's but i'd like to know what you all think is the best software option for copying as i see SO many softwares out there available and it's confusing the tits off me :oops:

so please let me know your opinions and reasonings behind them as i can't be assed to search the board :P
Author:  spudthedestroyer [ Sat May 15, 2004 7:05 pm ]
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DVDdecryptor for DVD5s and images. Always! If you have a folder of vobs, use imagetool to create an image file and use Dvddecrypter to burn the image.

If you have a DVD9, you have many options. But for speed and quality, try either cloneDVD or DVDcopy2 (I use the latter atm). Basically, you put your DVD9 through DVDdecrypter (iso mode and virtual drive if its for cloneDVD, filemode for DVDcopy2). Point your program to the files and then click copy.

For compilations or whatever, nero is easiest.
Author:  Bassline [ Sat May 15, 2004 8:03 pm ]
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cheers spud :beerchug:

so have you got any verified links for those tools? :mrgreen: apart from dvddecrypter...i have that already :wink:
Author:  spudthedestroyer [ Sat May 15, 2004 8:41 pm ]
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u rarely have to 'verify' apps. just do a search. It's wat i always do :)
Author:  Bassline [ Sat May 15, 2004 10:04 pm ]
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well i've leeched some apps but i'll have to wait till i get my burner to check em out i guess : :wacky:

InterVideo.DVD.Copy.Platinum.v2.Regged.rar
Intervideo Dvd Copy 2 Platinum Serial.zip
DVD2one.v1.40.Cracked.MaRKuS-Pleasuredome101(1).rar
Clonedvd v2.0.8.4 Working Incl Keygen-Core.zip
1Click DVD Copy v.2.13+key.rar

:lol: that lot should keep me busy for a while :mrgreen:

[ Add all 5 links to your ed2k client ]
Author:  spudthedestroyer [ Sun May 16, 2004 3:28 am ]
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Well blow me sideways.... and Dual Layer burners hit the market:
http://www.burn-media.co.uk/acatalog/DVD_RW_Drives.html
Sony DRU-700A DVD+R Double Layer (DL)
?125.99
Author:  Bassline [ Sun May 16, 2004 11:31 am ]
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i can't afford that! :-o



well i can but not just yet :wink:
Author:  Krug [ Tue May 18, 2004 4:50 pm ]
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Heh, I just found out that my NEC 2500A is the first SL drive that can be upgraded to DL with firmware! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Author:  spudthedestroyer [ Tue May 18, 2004 5:22 pm ]
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mine can't even burn at 8x so the 105 firmware is out of the question :lol:

I'm waiting for confirmation and stable firmware or a cheaper dual layer burner. Would love one right now... well except there's no media available for them :lol:

http://www.121cdr.co.uk is my favourite stockest for media :)
Author:  Krug [ Tue May 18, 2004 5:33 pm ]
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Here's the proof on my NEC:
http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?t=2 ... c&&start=0
Author:  spudthedestroyer [ Tue May 18, 2004 5:37 pm ]
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Krug wrote:
Here's the proof on my NEC:
http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?t=2 ... c&&start=0


oh no I believe you, you don't need proof my yound apprentice (although the link is bookmarked now ) :D

I just want to know about reliability. With zero or nearly zero media on the market, I wouldn't want to comment on compatability and future proof. I have a feeling that hardware specifically designed to burn dual layer would be better than something modded to dual layer was what I was partially hinting at. :) If it performs on par I'll probably get one :)
Author:  Krug [ Tue May 18, 2004 5:47 pm ]
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These guys tested it with DL media and here's the results. There's loads of screenshots of mad shit I don't even wanna go near, but probably makes sense to you:
http://www.cdrinfo.com/forum/tm.asp?m=6 ... ey=&#66772
Author:  Bassline [ Wed May 19, 2004 12:07 pm ]
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woohooo DVD burner has arrived and is now fully functional...well it would be if i knew how to use it :lol:

trying to burn my first DVD atm with about 6 movies on it :mrgreen:
Author:  paul-scream22 [ Wed May 19, 2004 12:15 pm ]
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Ah....it's a lovelly feeling :D

remember to verify though if you have the time coz nothing worse then finding a knackered dvd afterwards coz you loose 6 avi's :cry:
Author:  Bassline [ Wed May 19, 2004 12:20 pm ]
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whoops too late :lol:

i verified it straight away on my Yamada so this one worked 8)

will verify in the future,thanks for the tip :beerchug:
Author:  spudthedestroyer [ Thu May 27, 2004 7:57 pm ]
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HA 4086} NEC Multispin ND-2510 8x DVD?R/RW 2.4x DVD+R9 (Dual layer) Writer (Stock Arriving in June - Date to be Confirmed)


NEC have introduced their version of the dual layer DVD writer

The NEC ND-2510 is the follow up to the NEC-ND2500 with double layer writing capacities added.

This unit will write dual layer DVD+R9 discs at a maximum speed of 2.4x and DVD+R/DVD-R media at a maximum speed of 8x

Colour: Beige

Read speeds: 12x max DVD ROM

Write speeds: 8x DVD+R, 4x DVD+RW, 2.4x DVD+R9, 8x DVD-R, 4x DVD-RW, 32x CD-R, 16x CD-RW

This unit is used to write data to CD/DVD. The main features are its ability to write to dual layer discs and its high DVD writing speeds.

Formats supported: DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DVD+R9, DVD Video, CD ROM, CD-Audio, CD Extra, CD Text, CD-I Ready, CD-Bridge, Photo-CD, VideoCD, Hybrid CD.

Package contents: This is an OEM unit, so no software, cables or mounting screws or software are supplied.

Dimensions (mm) (WxHxD): 148x42x190

This unit comes with a 1 year guarantee from the date of purchase.

Shipping cost will be calculated and displayed by the website before you finalise your order.




SVP Price: ?69.99 Including VAT at 17.5%


Just spotted on my favourite CD shop:
http://www.blankdiscshop.co.uk/acatalog ... ion__.html

That's the *official* dual layer... but as the NEC 2500a can be updated, you can be a cheap bastard, ?49.98.
:lol:

Shame its only DVD+9 though :( Still, there's no media available round here so I'm going to hold off on purchasing one until media is available. However, I am going to put on hold, re-encoding anymore dvds and see if i can make it until the media hits the shops :)
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