You never know DJ, by the time it comes out, you may have your Xbox 1 working
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| Author: | spudthedestroyer [ Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:47 am ] | ||
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Here's a thread for all details concerning the upcoming console, and to get it started:
http://megagames.com/news/html/console/ ... name.shtml |
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| Author: | ViSCeRaL [ Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:43 am ] |
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Xbox2 Specs: http://xbox.gamespy.com/xbox/microsoft- ... 331p1.html |
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| Author: | PC_Arcade [ Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:51 am ] |
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You never know DJ, by the time it comes out, you may have your Xbox 1 working
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| Author: | Geezus [ Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:52 am ] |
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A-HA! 
They're risking europe (as a market ) already - You see , the last years in europe , the hype wasn't HDTV...it was widescreen..... Yes , one neighbour after another had to rush off into the local hardware store buying an even bigger telly than the git next door had....
A lot of people have already bought a tv during the last few years....and the bulk of those are NOT HD compatible......well maybe 480p......but that's only marginal better than what we PAL users have already.... Yes you say but LCD's are flying off the shelves right now......Yesss...I say but LCD penetration in europe's households is still < 15 %.... And may I remind you , today only a handfull of even those ,the top of the range models, have the True Native 19xx*10xx something......the hybrid standard of WS AND HDTV..... By the time that standard becomes....eh....common household standard ,we'll own a xbox3/ps4/hypercube by then... So my point is....if this HD thing is going to be the main selling point (Sony more or less vowed to improve it's online mess) , then how many people are gonna buy it ? I *THINK* I see a strategical move here....They're going for #1 position in the US market.....that's where their focus is on....If they become 1st or 2nd in PAL or even Japan market , that's good , but it's mere bonus...... Guess it's another playstaion for me then  *
* Disclaimer: Under no purpose or intent was the author out to flame any billy boy buttfuck fanboys - In fact sooner or later , in whatever particular order , the author fully admits he intends ending up owning all 3 new consoles ....sooner or later..... |
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| Author: | PC_Arcade [ Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:03 am ] |
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I'm not getting any of them until they're chipped 
The xbox2 / next / 360 / whatever it's called will be the easiest to copy games for by the look of things as it's confirmed as using DVD media (!) |
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| Author: | Geezus [ Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:07 am ] | ||
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I NEVER buy a console the first year either - absurd pricing , few titles , even some design glitches.... I usually buy it the 2nd year.... Hmm....after reading thru DJ's link , I must admit M$ sure knows how to gamble.... Online play mandatory ? .... 
There are MILLIONS , even amongst xbox owners, that have no acces to broadband .... also plenty of people STILL have no credit card.... ...and last but not least..... some people don't like online gaming.....REALLY ! A player on the other side of the line is just a very clever AI that continuously throws cheap shots and cheezy tactics...... 
It's all about competing winning competing......Fun ? ah....Fun = winning right ? .....*sigh*....you sad person.... 
I'm sorry - I have no time to establish/maintain personal online/clan relations for every single game......and playing against a stranger is a complete dud to me.... 
Really ,nothing beats 4 players crammed in 1 to narrow couch exchanging elbows....onscreen and offscreen......
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| Author: | ViSCeRaL [ Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:35 am ] | ||
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That quick? I was thinking more like when Xbox 3 is released.
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| Author: | spudthedestroyer [ Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:23 pm ] |
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I'm not buying any of them... until zelda, then I have to buy a revolution toychest or whatever it is. You can't buy that with a hdd or some hdtv mode, you have to earn it by providing quality titles. Of course I'm sure as hell not paying full retail for any of them, but maybe if they're chipped I'll exploit them. Games simply aren't there over pc in the most part. |
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| Author: | spudthedestroyer [ Fri May 13, 2005 9:59 am ] |
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Some very impressive short video clips: http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=4903 A bit samey 3rd person shooters unfortunately, but mightly impressive on the visuals. The guys playing most of them suck as per tradition
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| Author: | PC_Arcade [ Fri May 13, 2005 10:01 am ] | ||
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Damn impressive specs on the new Xbox though :
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox360/factsheet.htm |
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| Author: | Geezus [ Fri May 13, 2005 11:20 am ] |
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BAH! M$ has won 
Most likely , PS3 will boost a teeny weeny bit more power..... But if that's worth a full year of wait......I doubt it..... I'd like to thank all you $uck up @$$holes for supporting m$ cornering yet another market.... Sorry - having a bad day
Seriously , M$ seems to play the game right this time..... |
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| Author: | spudthedestroyer [ Fri May 13, 2005 11:35 am ] |
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from what i read, x2s specs are a dissapointment to many. They seem pretty damn good to me, way better than anything that's on the market today, but i guess they were expecting some kind of holodeck or something.
I don't think its fair to count out Sony yet. Sony make a lot of money... a lot of money, they are the only console company comparable to microsoft, and are every bit in the same money market. PS3 will definitely be more of a difference in hardware than the PS2 to Xbox difference was. They do have a very, very cool CPU behind the console. Have they announced any other specs? lol @ nintendo... bless em. no point in saying much. You can see why they keep saying, "we're not going to even bother trying to compete... look ours is pretty small though, isn't that quaint" oh wait, they announced it will play dvds this time! lol!
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| Author: | Geezus [ Fri May 13, 2005 3:01 pm ] | ||||||
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 - well no actually - Just the playstation divisions do - they're getting pounded in consumer electronics .....Samsung in particular is nibbling off marketshare in *ALL* product fields....
 Soon my eager Jedi ......soon...... What worries me is that sony is gonna try and win this by trying to keep costs down - they already announce it would only boost 256mb main ram ........but then that's one of the easiest thing to replace at the last minute....
None other than Billy the $ kicked off trashtalking last week by calling big N the big Niche player... I think I'll buy the revolution when it reaches dump pricepoint again 
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| Author: | spudthedestroyer [ Sat May 14, 2005 9:19 pm ] | ||||||||
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Well, no actually. Sony aren't just consumer electronics anymore, they're profits far,far outweigh their costs. Their profits are down but they still make a profit from the standpoint of a multi-billion pound corporation, the being they still make huge profits across the board, take a read of what the reports actually say: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4489103.stm
That figure includes:
So they lost 34.4bn yen on misadventures, but even including 34.4bn yen, they made 113.9bn yen. So yes, actually. I personally thought that slow sales meant the ps division made a loss this quarter? Xbox made a profit for M$ this quarter, but its still made a running loss. Its film division had bigger profits than any other... sigh, despite pirates obviously
So that's a big negatory on that there statement in so far that what i said is perfectly true, they make huge profits, and profits from the standpoint of a multibillion international corporation. They are easily microsoft's equal, i mean microsoft makes a loss in its console division too, so they're even more similar than you think
You have to bear in mind, these press releases are from shareowner standings, and like sick, grim news sells, its not from how well they are doing. The two can and often are totally mutually exclusive. They maybe loosing ground in electronics atm but that means little in a dynamic market, just that profits could have been higher. Their net gain is completely the opposite. Sounds like your talking about something like this and giving it a lot more credit than it deserves: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3092063.stm But even despite the apocalypse, that just means there's a free market, and they are covering their asses from shareholder fire whilst they make that corner of the market back up to scratch. Give em a couple of years and they'll be back. They've fallen into the red so many times now in electronics, but they have billions to spend, and have had a net profit in electronics so they have shit loads to waste.
--- Anyway, i say don't count out sony because they're not going to go away, and i doubt it will do overly badly. I sure as hell aint backing them to be the number one ponies or anything. I won't be buying a ps3, ever, since i don't see the point given there's never been more than pittance of appeal form their games division, and all the games i'm interested about are available on competitors machines anyways. It will not be "number one" is my strong prediction. Microsoft will be, spud's garantuee. I'm just saying, just because they're a year later, its doubtful they are going to have anything but headline coverage. as far as purchases go, if nintendo make some good games, then i'll get one of them on the cheap. I will look at the xbox, maybe buy one. imo PS3 will most likely be not worth bothering with again, just like the PS2 now. But they won't be going away or anything, and there'll be as much coverage for them then as there is now. That's all i meant. I still back pcs over all this shit anyway, looks like the input devices are still inferior on all accounts. ps. i hear xbox has wavebird like controllers this time round. If they've lifted the technology right, that's a good plus. Albeit they all have wavebird controllers this time round Sony haven't said anything, but they're always at hand to steal a good idea.
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| Author: | PC_Arcade [ Thu May 19, 2005 2:30 pm ] | ||
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Err....
So NOT compatible then
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| Author: | spudthedestroyer [ Thu May 19, 2005 2:57 pm ] |
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lol... does anyone get the impressed they have utter muppets running the console business these days? I mean we have sony saying its 35 times more powerful, when they mean they had all of their demos rendered on 35 more powerful pcs, and we have microsoft saying that its backwards compatible, it just doesn't play older games... Then there's nintendo saying, "we have a revolution! we are now going to use the internet! look see download super mario bros 3... wow" Awesome guys!
Fair's fair though, backwards compatability is pointless a lot of the time anyway. I mean the last gen wasn't overly impressive and i doubt i'll be going back and playing anything. |
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| Author: | Geezus [ Thu May 19, 2005 4:26 pm ] | ||
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Damm - talk about a understatement
I can't name 5 games on all 3 consoles that I would want to take with me to the next gen..... Anyway , may I still raise the point that X360's main selling point is this hammering on HD ! 720 ! HD ! 1080 !HD ! all bow down blabla.... They're gonna fall flat on their face again ! HDTV penetration in Europe is laughable at this time <10 % ... And before that percentage hits 50 % we'll be at least 5 years down the road , revving up for the next gen of hardware.... I bet HDTV penetration in North america won't be the 70-80% within those 2-3 years ( as arrogantly assumed) either....oh I'm sure BillY $ would love to believe that - Just as his generals are yelling they'll sell a BILLION x360 's !!!
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| Author: | spudthedestroyer [ Fri May 20, 2005 12:15 am ] |
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well i've played on: Age of Empires 2 Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Super Mario World Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past Resident Evil (Remake but still essentially the same game) Resident Evil 2 (a quick play) over the past 12 months, notice 5 of those are on nintendo consoles, and the other is a microsoft one, not a console game though. I can't say that i ever played a psx title on the ps2 when i had that for ages... and that had no games worth playing past or present when i had it, there were just a string of shit titles until GTA3 came out. Luckily i sold the ps2 for a profit (just) since i had it chipped back when chipping was brand new. Backwards compatability will go unused by me, its not that appealing. I will not be using HDTV, i don't have the money and haven't even seen any tv equipement to play the stuff, i agree that its useless. Whats appealing about the xbox2 is variety of 3rd party games, and potentional exploits (like the xbox atm) that provide media functionality rather than the games. Whats appealing about the PS3 is currently nothing except it plays Blu-ray discs and may very well be a good choice if its cheap, although it looks to be very, very expensive atm. Whats appealing about the revolution thingy is zelda. Nothing else... maybe that it will be cheap too, although that's not confirmed in anyway. That's not too hot, i think its flattering to even call them games consoles. Gimmick box anyone?
edit: oh and Legend of Zelda 1... there was a rom for the gamecube on the limited edition zelda disc. |
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| Author: | PC_Arcade [ Fri May 20, 2005 9:39 am ] | ||
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Now M$ are saying it IS backward compatible
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| Author: | TaKYoN [ Fri May 20, 2005 9:46 am ] |
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I will be fascinated tho on how well the ingame video chat will work, especially some twat who has like 64k upload and wonders why it looks shit. Seriously tho, backwards compatability is just a gimmick, like you guys said, the current gen has been extraordinarily poor IMHO, the original PS was cool, PS2 was just shite, but XB had some OK stuff. I gotta say, much to my chagrin, that I do honestly believe the 360 will become a very serious player in the next gen, the XB never managed to get close to the PS2. Yeah it managed to dent Sonys lead, but that was it. Mind you, it came as no surprise since M$ admit the XB was just a stepping stone into the market, but they need to be carefull what they say in the public domain, Sega managed to kill themselves by treating customers poorly, and so did N. Saying the machine someone spent hundreds on was just a stepping stone may be misinterprated by some. @Spud, I still say Zelda is shit. Maybe I am biased cos as a young whipper snapper I had this rebel thing going, so whatever was mainstream I hated, I mean for fucks sake I was always an Atari kid. Mind you, I gotta say the Jaguar was massively under marketed, had potential, as did the Lynx, but they fucked it up. Anyways, I reckon I might actually purchase a 360, but only cos I can't download one
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