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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:59 am Post subject: |
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the only jeeves/jeaves I know are either from american movies or the dude you ask @ ask.com
Maybe its an american thing?
It's a last name though ain't it? Carling, Guiness or... hmm beer time!
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Polityk
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 2:33 am Post subject: |
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spudthedestroyer wrote: | then again, cronenberg's The Fly rocked! |
You can hardly call this remake. Only the basic idea was taken from the Prive movie, but it was developed into a completely different story.
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 2:47 am Post subject: |
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Polityk wrote: | spudthedestroyer wrote: | then again, cronenberg's The Fly rocked! |
You can hardly call this remake. Only the basic idea was taken from the Prive movie, but it was developed into a completely different story. |
hence a remake. You just defined what a remake is in my opinion. You don't have to do what they did with Psycho to be called a remake, you just have to take the basic concept of previous movie, be it plot, story or even basic idea, and then rebottle it, either through total reconstruction or simple polishing.
Cronenberg's The Fly was as much a remake as Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Carpenter's The Thing 
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In Hell I Burn Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2003 12:08 am Posts: 431
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Shame that this won't get 3-D but Final Destination 3 will.
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Polityk
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 3:06 am Post subject: |
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spudthedestroyer wrote: | Polityk wrote: | spudthedestroyer wrote: | then again, cronenberg's The Fly rocked! |
You can hardly call this remake. Only the basic idea was taken from the Prive movie, but it was developed into a completely different story. |
hence a remake. You just defined what a remake is in my opinion. You don't have to do what they did with Psycho to be called a remake, you just have to take the basic concept of previous movie, be it plot, story or even basic idea, and then rebottle it, either through total reconstruction or simple polishing. Cronenberg's The Fly was as much a remake as Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Carpenter's The Thing  |
Perhaps you're right. I always thought a remake is when you more or less adapt the whole plot, changing it TO SOME EXTENT, but not completely. Here the whole story is changed, therefore I'd say Cronenberg's Fly was INSPIRED by the original movie, but was not a remake.
As I said, perhaps I'm wrong and a remake is when you change a movie beyond any recognition...
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 3:20 am Post subject: |
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I think your getting the definition of the word wrong, remake means to take a concept and to change it or simply do the same thing again:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=remake
Quote: | To make again or anew.
The act of remaking. Something in remade form, especially a new version of an earlier movie or song
n : something that is made again or anew; "it is a remake of an old film" v : make anew [syn: refashion, redo, make over] |
I highlighted two bits, because your taking the other meaning of it. "to make again". If your staying true to the word, it means that based up, refashioning and total reworking is all correct as well.
That can exclude something that is based upon something, for example Return of the Living Dead is not a remake of Night of the Living Dead, although it is based upon the that (it uses the zombies from it and refers to it  ), however, Return of the Living Dead part 2 is actually a remake of Return of the Livind Dead. As it takes the first's story and then retells it (and hence why half the cast comes back to life in the second one  ).
In the same sense, the Fly takes the basic idea of the original, and then reworks it. The story is 'remade', and hence it is a remake in the truest sense of the word.
I wouldn't claim they are anything alike though, that would be just silly  A remake of this fashion is how most remakes should be attempted. Removing what doesn't work, or just taking the basic idea and starting from scratch.
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 3:55 am Post subject: |
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spudthedestroyer wrote: | the only jeeves/jeaves I know are either from american movies or the dude you ask @ ask.com
Maybe its an american thing?
It's a last name though ain't it? Carling, Guiness or... hmm beer time! |
so "jeeves & wooster" would be completely lost on you eh spud
"jeeves" is a very british thing, any true brit should know it, i say the youth of today the old world is lost on them tut tut
it seems no-one is ever called jeeves except butlers, i expect this dates abck to some old time when butler were known as "jeeves" or some other crazy story that the old 200 year old hag at the corner will waffle on about, but nevermind, anyway remakes suck, especially american ones... did anybody see the atrocious damage tehy did to thomas the tank engine by remaking it for america  hehe  ... ok hollywood, time to pay 
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paul-scream22
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Kyle wrote: | Shame that this won't get 3-D but Final Destination 3 will. |
WHAT
Seriousley?
That would be cool
/me goes a googling now!
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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if u ask me final destination 3 sounds really gay, i mean the crash happens on roller coaster for gods sake, the crashes in 1 and 2 with the plane and the traffic were good but i imagine this will be shit
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paul-scream22
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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maxpayne2409 wrote: | if u ask me final destination 3 sounds really gay, i mean the crash happens on roller coaster for gods sake, the crashes in 1 and 2 with the plane and the traffic were good but i imagine this will be shit |
3D max  , who cares about the storyline - hehe 
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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i care coz 3d films suck balls, and not jsut mine, they suck everybodys, 3d films are slappas  jaws 3d is a case in point, in 3d crap, not in 3d good, fri13th 3d in 3d crap, not in 3d good, see the trend thats developping here  , neway get on with your work im not paying your wages to slack off.... your taxs are paying me to slack off  :D:D
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 1:44 am Post subject: |
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bump lmao... now this isn't funny but all this talk of the fly and remakes and guess what the fuckers do:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379788/
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 2:06 am Post subject: |
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oh no. Wish I was an assassin. I'd be one bussy fellow...
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DxaKrator
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 3:20 am Post subject: |
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Let's see....Amittyvile 2 remakes planned
Black Christmas remake
The Crazies remake
A Day of the Dead prequel
She-freak remake
2001 maniacs remake
Rabid Dogs remake
Black Sabbath remake
Stepford wives remake
Kairo remake
Blair witch prequel
Return of the living dead sequel
Suspiria remake
Exorcist prequel
and those are just the ones I did in a glance...I am sure there is more abominations abound.
Is it just me or has this world just suddenly taken a dive into the crapper as far as new ideas in movies? 
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paul-scream22
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 9:44 am Post subject: |
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John_Doe wrote: | oh no. Wish I was an assassin. I'd be one bussy fellow... |
So wait is this going to be a remake/do of the original Fly or the Jeff Goldblum one
Why do this AGAIN 
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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well technically a remake of a remake is a remake of the original right?
right?
/me looks around
echo...echo!
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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In Hell I Burn Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2003 12:08 am Posts: 431
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paul-scream22 wrote: | So wait is this going to be a remake/do of the original Fly or the Jeff Goldblum one Why do this AGAIN  |
Not only that, the director has no previous experience except 3 short films.
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paul-scream22
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2004 12:05 am Post subject: |
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Kyle wrote: | paul-scream22 wrote: | So wait is this going to be a remake/do of the original Fly or the Jeff Goldblum one Why do this AGAIN  |
Not only that, the director has no previous experience except 3 short films. |
Even better spudthedestroyer wrote: | well technically a remake of a remake is a remake of the original right?
right?
/me looks around echo...echo! |
Maybe third times the charm
Obviousley something's wrong with the other two, and that's why theres another attempt 
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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FFS! 
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