Only thing I remember about gremlins 2 was the gremlin changing scene going to Angel of Death by slayer....And thinking more on it...that seems to be the only damned thing I remember....don't feel to bad,at least you didn't mention anything negative about Alien3
One thing agreed on though..infested was pretty shitty...but I liked it for some reason....not sure if it was the 500 lb Rutger Hauer trying to waddle his way from one scene to the next or just the simple idea that you can keep bees(angry bees) quaranteened in a section of an airliner with nothing more than those flimsy blankets and pillows they give you on your trip.Keep that in mind for all you frequent fliers out there.

Just a side note here and nothing relevant about the subject in hand.....but....is it just me or has Ohgods Avatar become....how should I say this....distracting?

Damn I never saw this tread, must have been before I became dead.




I can't understand you guys who defiled the name Halloween!!!!! by adding it to one of the worst on their lisT! no no no!

You can say maybe all the sequels were chity

Especially the last Halloween adventure! That was damn shame awful!

There are so many terrible horror flicks my god, this is tough!
I mean there are ones so bad and sticky that they are great comical enjoyments to just plan junk that has no hidden values at all.
Those come to mind ATM.


"Freddy vs. Jason" was a commercial mess of pure stupidity.


"Jeepers Creepers" 1 and 2 sucked
the only good part in 1 was when that stupid woman stared to sing "Jeepers creepers...where did you get em peepers" ha ha ha

The remake to "House on Hunted Hill" was just a vomit aftermath of a buch of retarded Hollywood executives at a meeting on their next project.

"Blair Witch" WTF the only thing FUNNY about this one is that the gimmick worked and had dumb asses believing that "It's real" for 10 minutes HA HA

Also the fact that when I saw this little sucker that the theater was sold out and people were screaming... I sat there laughing at their faces, btw the whole movie theater was packed with all white people then 2 black people came in sat down and when they heard that this was "Blair Witch" they got up and said "We're in the wrong movie".



"Prince of Darkness" was junk ,What the hell was that movie?

"Poltergeist 3" aka "carol ann don't look at the mirrors'... WTF

The remake to "Texas Chainsaw massacre" was another

And lots more.....


And on Ohgods Avatar, Is that the bottom part of your clown torso?

We could only be so lucky

What did you like about it then? Utter bore IMO. One of those where you constantly check how much time is remaining...

It's a film that was made in 1978 at a time where there wasn't any over generated CGI effects and there wasn't any other film out there like it *cough* ok ok there was "Black Christmas" in 1975 but that was Canadian small release that didn?t get the recognition that It deserved, it is also considered boring by some.

"Halloween" when looked at today is corny and boring as well as a lot of the older horror films, to the newer generation because they are use to the new world of film but, some do look at films like Halloween with the appreciation of horror history in mind and how it evolved to now.
Not saying you don?t now, but how could you say it sucked?

What I liked about it? hmmmmm Hard to give you that.
It could be because I grew up with it as a young kid and finding it a scary piece.
When I see it now as an adult, it brings back memories of the craze and the excitement that came about it. There was nothing like it in terms of a successful slasher horror film.
This thing was big!

Then "Friday the 13th" came out in 1980 ...if Halloween wasn't there before it, would a big company (Paramount) even touch a slasher film. Actually they shouldn't have since they love scissors! ha ha

I've heard people in they're teens say that they thought that the new "Texas Chainsaw..." was better that of the original.. i am like HUH why .. They say the first one was boring and stupid! :-o
The new one cooler...
The films back through the 70?s and 80?s were more fun than the horror films made today because there were more ideas, and more imagination put into Horror films
Today everything is recycled over and over again.
If there wasn?t a ?Halloween? how would it turned out for the slasher film?

I m just rambling on, sorry and probably didn't answer the question..
the answer to what I am trying to say is somewhere in this but ... forget it
:-o

I agree about everything you say. Heck, I very rarley watch newer films voluntarly myself, but I still don't think Halloween deserves any praise. Had I also seen it as a kid, it might've had some meaning, but alas... I just can't understand what people like about it!?!?!

But it's like trying to convince kids these days that Day of the Tentacle is one of the best games ever, I guess.

The original 'Texas Chainsaw' was a great film, and rather different in that it had such a cold and nihilistic feel to it. I didn't see that as a kid either, but thoroughly enjoyed it. (or enjoyed the feeling it gave me) What makes it great are not the scenes with people being chased around by leatherface, nor the few surprise shocks, but the emptiness and lack of moral or feeling at all portrayed throughout. On the same level as mondo and shockumentaries, it works because the atmosphere is so depraved that you intuit happiness can never live there. It's not the acts of carving up human flesh for consumption that's effective, it's the fact that the purpotrators do so without showing any remorse or implying that their acts might not be the right thing to do....

I never liked the slasher genre anyway. Too simple, yet not simple enough to be funny. Just sleeptastic. And the obvious surprise endings.. bah.

Guess I should put a *Halloween and Elm Street spoiler* here

Halloweed has no buildup in suspence, no interesting story, no good characters.. no nothing. It's one of those where you're utterly careless if the main characters survive or die, you just want it to end so that you can get on with your life. And the end, when Myers dissapears for the nth time after having been pursumed dead numerable times, it's just too stupid. It's like all those Freddy films ending with 'ooooooohh.. he might not be dead after all' Barf!! Is it seriously meant to be scary?



I sure as hell wouldn't mind at all!

Halloween is a brilliant film imo, the story is a bit naff/done, but I mean its pieced together to make one of the best horror films put on the screen. Okay its no alien and I don't rate it that highly, but its so not the worst film ever.


WTF I'm sorry but that's one of the (arguably only) things it does really, really well. It also pretty much invented that ending, the unstoppable slasher movie. Sure it wasn't the first slasher, but it was one of the first greats.

The story is pretty dumb, but then again, slasher... what else would it be? As one of the firsts it isn't that bad, and as a horror film, its technically superior to most of the similar titles at least, its a better made film with more memorable scenes that a thousand of the cheap copycat movies that followed.

and yes... its unfortunate that it led to Friday



Tell that to max, he's hung up on Monkey Island. No matter how good some of the lucas arts games are, imo Day of the Tentacle was one of the better ones.

And onto Gremlins 2, its a more satisfying movie than the first. Its social comment is more apt due to its setting where their really are Gremlins in the machine, pseudo-intellectual tv personalities reflected by the pseudo-intellectual gremlin, the utter piss take out of the treatment of horror as the genre, 'attack of the octupus' followed by "where's the moan... there's supposed to be a moan from the coffin". Hell even one of my favourite quotes is in there, "Casablance, now in colour with a happier ending!". The self-reflection of horror has never been finer in a movie. The first film didn't dare to be so bold, but in Gremlins 2 the paraody is really out there with spoofs from Rambo 2 to Q the Winged Serpant, and its a film the director really wanted to make, a creative freedom that was only given after the commercial success of the first. Whilst the first one is my favourite for many reasons, the two are inseperable, and when someone says gremlins, its impossible to tell where the first ends and the second begins because they both brought so much. Whilst the first pits the gremlins against an angellic piece of americana, the second is in a heartless technical nightmare, a place and industry that's lost its soul to cheap gimmicky.

The second film is Dante let loose and allowed him to acheive what sometimes he only hints at in his other films. A real film fanatics tour de force.

And then there were only two Dante films in the 90s that followed, Matinee and Small Soldiers. Now Small Soldiers really was crap, that was like a gremlins film without any bite, soul or dignity, and just an all round bad film.

Heheh...I see you didn't take my bait on Alien3

Blair Witch Project - gotta be the only horror film i have never managed to sit teh whole way thru to the end and