Being out or not means very little for scene release groups. They just get someone who works int eh production factory to steal one

There's a DVDr out too.
The whole release date concept is marketing bullshit, shops sit on dvds until a set date that marketing people deem signifcant, they just sit on the copes until then. Its even more retarded in the gaming industry.
The subs got nuked though, according to nforce.nl there's a subfix release, anyone got them?