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ViSCeRaL
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 10:53 am Post subject: Subtitles - How do you like them? |
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The Devil, Probably Joined: Thu Jul 24, 2003 10:13 am Posts: 2029 Location: The Slab
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Been thinking about this lately, when I've released movies in the past which have english subs, I've always hard coded them into the DiVX file. What are people's general feelings on this?
Would you prefer subs hardcoded, or released separately as .sub & .idx files?
From my point of view, if I download a movie with subs I'd rather have them hardcoded as I convert to DVD then watch them on my big TV. I don't like farting around with Virtualdub filters & such trying to get the subs saved into the movie.
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graag
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 11:11 am Post subject: |
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Dead But Dreaming Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2003 4:14 pm Posts: 270 Location: Tromaville
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I like the SRT ones. They are small and I can decide if I want them displayed and where to display them - over the movie (ffdshow) for fullscreen or below it (radlight - subs aren't transparent on NVidia TV-Out) for widescreen releases. As there isn't only the English language it's good if subs can be replaced.
Hardcoded subs are annoying (except maybe on asian movies) but hey - much better this way than nothing. 
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ohgodnotanotherone
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 11:40 am Post subject: |
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The Devil, Probably Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2003 6:21 pm Posts: 1676
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Well I prefer hardcoded - provided it's done properly ....
No offense man but I just saw your "ebola syndrome" some 3 weeks ago....couldn't always make out the subs when a guy with a white shirt entered the screen..
was it one of your older rips ? 
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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The Devil, Probably Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2003 1:04 pm Posts: 2497 Location: In the darkest spot of your soul.
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I don't care what format the sub are in. Managed to play then all, yet. But I really hate them hardcoded. Sometimes I use movies to improve my language skills, so to disable subs is nice. Somtimes I got movies with subs, which were hardly readable, because of color, position, or size. So I'd like to decide if and where they are displayed.
If I had the choice between hard and soft subbed, I'd alwas choose the soft sub. Eventually redownload a film again, if a soft subbed version becomes available.
Somtimes you get in Germany films on DVD with subs you cannot disable. I have even seen films in english with enlish subs. Has some legal reasons. Guess what I'd never buy?
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ViSCeRaL
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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The Devil, Probably Joined: Thu Jul 24, 2003 10:13 am Posts: 2029 Location: The Slab
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ohgodnotanotherone wrote: | No offense man but I just saw your "ebola syndrome" some 3 weeks ago....couldn't always make out the subs when a guy with a white shirt entered the screen.. was it one of your older rips ?  |
No offence taken. It was one of my older rips, and I wish I still had the DVD to re-rip it as the resolution sucks as well as the subs being difficult to read. Never mind, you live & learn. graag wrote: | Hardcoded subs are annoying (except maybe on asian movies) but hey - much better this way than nothing. |
Yeah, I was talking about non-english (typically asian in my case) movies.
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Purple.Nightmare
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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The Ancient One Joined: Wed Jun 18, 2003 5:48 pm Posts: 2912 Location: The House On The Edge Of The Park
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Hardcoded subs suck, i prefer to position/resize subs accordingly
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John_Doe
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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The Ancient One Joined: Sun Feb 23, 2003 10:03 am Posts: 5034 Location: Norway - Where the polar bears roam the streets
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yeah, hardcoded suck.
.srt is the best IMO
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PrayeR
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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a member of the recently deceased Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2003 12:55 pm Posts: 1194
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only in Asian movies
if movie is in english - no subs.
just i like english lang... :-/
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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I prefer .idx and .sub namely because you can spend space on the rip. .sub can be played from inside a rar archive 
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Stromjunkie
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 9:53 am Post subject: |
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just marked kozure okami for download. but, there is some other file
"kozure.okami.1.1972.dvdxvid-southside.smi" eng. sub, i guess.
now, how do I play the movie incl. the subtitels? i use power dvd 5.0.
i expect that thing will not play the movie correct. thanks for any help, in advance.
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 10:04 am Post subject: |
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Mod of the Living Dead Joined: Fri Nov 22, 2002 4:30 pm Posts: 3346 Location: Where dead angels lie
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I like all the text formats because they are small and you can turn them off. It's also quite comfortable that you can control the font size and background color.
Stromjunkie wrote: | just marked kozure okami for download. but, there is some other file "kozure.okami.1.1972.dvdxvid-southside.smi" eng. sub, i guess. now, how do I play the movie incl. the subtitels? i use power dvd 5.0. i expect that thing will not play the movie correct. thanks for any help, in advance. |
Questions like this belong to help section.
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satan
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 10:05 am Post subject: |
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a member of the recently deceased Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2003 8:07 am Posts: 2564 Location: Hell ___________________________ ------ Horror Dealer ------
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SRT's.
My fucking p2450 can't convert IDX.=(
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DxaKrator
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 11:09 am Post subject: |
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The Practice Girl Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2003 3:08 am Posts: 6099 Location: Back in the glistening folds of Barbara Bush's Twat
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I don't care what format they are,just as long as I can find them at all  Anyone remember the situation with Accion Mutante? 
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satan
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 11:26 am Post subject: |
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DxaKrator wrote: | Anyone remember the situation with Accion Mutante?  |
I gave up on that.
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DxaKrator
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 11:30 am Post subject: |
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The Practice Girl Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2003 3:08 am Posts: 6099 Location: Back in the glistening folds of Barbara Bush's Twat
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Same here, but I was hoping  Nothing liek having a completed movie that you can't understand.
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PC_Arcade
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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satan wrote: | DxaKrator wrote: | Anyone remember the situation with Accion Mutante?  |
I gave up on that. |
I'm still looking, ever the optimist 
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 8:34 am Post subject: |
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I actually prefer hardcoded subs for the sole fact that my divx dvd player cant handle seperate subtitle files in any format. Thats why my precious asian movies arent being watched anymore because I cant be stuffed watching them on the computer (no video out)
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Some Random Dude
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 8:54 am Post subject: |
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In Hell I Burn Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2003 3:06 am Posts: 473 Location: In an asylum surrounded by green woods
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lildarien wrote: | I actually prefer hardcoded subs for the sole fact that my divx dvd player cant handle seperate subtitle files in any format. Thats why my precious asian movies arent being watched anymore because I cant be stuffed watching them on the computer (no video out) |
What divx player do you've got? I always put the movie and the subtitles in one folder and then burn it with Nero and my KISS divxplayer never had a problem with it. Actually since firmware 2.7.4 it's working like a charm
Btw I prefer hardcoded or the small .srt file. Had some problems that I couldn't burn a movie because the .sub was just that extra mb that didn't fit on the cd 
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monkeysmasher
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 9:36 am Post subject: |
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The Devil, Probably Joined: Sun Dec 08, 2002 3:07 am Posts: 2174 Location: I'm inside of you.
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i preffer seperate subs, though i doubt i would watch a film i didnt know the language without subs.
i had some success removing hardcoded subs with the delogo and logo-away filters in virtualdub, for those who really hate hardcoded subs. it does take a bit of effort to remove them.
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DxaKrator
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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The Practice Girl Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2003 3:08 am Posts: 6099 Location: Back in the glistening folds of Barbara Bush's Twat
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I am not really sure what all the fuss is about in beeing able to play them,get zplayer and get vobsub and things pretty much work fine in any format.I can imagine though certain op systems might not jive with these though so that might be the problem on a few people. 
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