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Dr Phibes
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 6:34 pm Post subject: Witchfinder General (1968) |
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The Devil, Probably Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:54 pm Posts: 1962 Location: UK
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I found this in a search in the mule. I know there are a couple of other rips of this in the Screeners and Unverified section but this poses a puzzle. As you can see from the first screen this is supposed to be a restored version. The last sceen is I think from a piece of restored footage as the Q drops off for the whole scene when you watch the film. The puzzle is this,G Spot says a run time of almost 82min,the IMDB says 86min ? Is this the full version or is there a 86 min cut out there. I noticed in the specs for one of the rips is the same runtime ?
Anyway enjoy
ed2k: The.Witchfinder.General.1968.Export.Version.DVDrip.Xvid-Marvinb.avi [691.32 Mb] [ Stats]
The.Witchfinder.General..avi
Duration: 01h 21m 36s
Video Codec: XviD
Aspect Ratio: 640 x 352 (1.818 : 1)
Audio Codec: 0x0055(MP3) ID'd as MPEG-1 Layer 3
Audio Bitrate: 110 kb/s (55/ch x 2 ch) VBR LAME3.93
Video Frame Rate: 25.000 FPS
Video Bitrate: 1066 kb/s
File Size: 691 MB
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063285/
One of Vincents best IMO
Added Video Bitrate
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Site Admin Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2002 1:35 am Posts: 19756 Location: En España
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Witchinder General you say?
*Topic title fixed*
There'll never be a truely uncensored version of this since the BBFC censored the script before filming started
ps. you want to fix your specs program, its missing the all important bitrate See the FAQ if you use gknot.
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Dr Phibes
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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The Devil, Probably Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:54 pm Posts: 1962 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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In Hell I Burn Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2004 9:44 pm Posts: 413 Location: The Netherlands
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This looks good! Thanks
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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The Devil, Probably Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:05 am Posts: 1791 Location: Brasil
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Dr Phibes, thanx
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weezee
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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Will Tear Your Soul Apart Joined: Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:45 am Posts: 633 Location: Neverending Lane, Kerovnia
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Dr.Phibes: theater movies run at 24 FPS, you've got a PAL rip, which is 25 FPS.
(86 min / 24) * 25 = 82.5 min
So I think this version is missing about 1 minute.
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Purple.Nightmare
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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The Ancient One Joined: Wed Jun 18, 2003 5:48 pm Posts: 2912 Location: The House On The Edge Of The Park
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cheers i like this movie n not seen since was last on tv a few years ago (n that was prob cut!!)
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weezee
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Dr Phibes
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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The Devil, Probably Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:54 pm Posts: 1962 Location: UK
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To be honest I have no idea how u work that out I just noticed the difference in the runtimes. But I do think this is as close as you will get to a uncut version
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Dr Phibes
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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The Devil, Probably Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:54 pm Posts: 1962 Location: UK
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Ok had a closer look at the VP post in Screeners and Unverified and found this from Iconoclast
Witchfinder General : Special Edition
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Complete Director's Cut
"At the time of it's original release the BBFC decided that certain scenes should be trimmed to comply with the rules on the deciption of violence.
In these more enlightened times we have been able to reinstigate these scenes to recreate the original director's cut.
However, please note that there may be some variation in picture and sound quality due to different mastering sources we have had to use to enable us to assemble this cut."
Runtime; 1h 22min 48sec
Complete Export Cut
"When this film was originally released some alternate versions of certain scenes were created to cater for more lenient foreign markets.
Here, we present the full export version, which includes more explit scenes.
However, please note that there may be some variation in picture and sound quality due to the different mastering sources we have had to use to enable us to assemble this cut."
Runtime; 1h 22min 48sec
So both versions are uncut versions of the movie. The 'export cut' just has more nudity (Like in bar scene the waitress's have bare breasts and in original cut they have their shirts on) =)
Don't know about the runtime of the rips, but these are the real ones.
cant seem to work out how to use the Quote box
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weezee
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Will Tear Your Soul Apart Joined: Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:45 am Posts: 633 Location: Neverending Lane, Kerovnia
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Quote: | To be honest I have no idea how u work that out I just noticed the difference in the runtimes. But I do think this is as close as you will get to a uncut version |
It is a simplified calculation:
Every minute has 60 seconds
86 * 60 = 5160 seconds
Every second of theatrical movie has 24 frames
5160 * 24 =123840 frames
Now we reduce to 25 frames, PAL ALWAYS has 25 frames per second
123840 / 25 = 4953.6 seconds
Now we convert seconds to minutes
4952.6 / 60 = 82.54 seconds
You can ignore the seconds <-> minutes passage and simplify into
(86 min * 24) / 25 = 82.5 min
Every PAL movie runs 4% less than theatrical version.
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Dr Phibes
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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The Devil, Probably Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:54 pm Posts: 1962 Location: UK
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Amazingly I understand that
thank u for that hope you like the movie looks like its the best cut
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Dr Phibes
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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The Devil, Probably Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:54 pm Posts: 1962 Location: UK
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So both versions are uncut versions of the movie. The 'export cut' just has more nudity (Like in bar scene the waitress's have bare breasts and in original cut they have their shirts on) =)
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weezee
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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Purple.Nightmare
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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weezee wrote: | Quote: | To be honest I have no idea how u work that out I just noticed the difference in the runtimes. But I do think this is as close as you will get to a uncut version |
It is a simplified calculation: Every minute has 60 seconds 86 * 60 = 5160 seconds Every second of theatrical movie has 24 frames 5160 * 24 =123840 frames Now we reduce to 25 frames, PAL ALWAYS has 25 frames per second 123840 / 25 = 4953.6 seconds Now we convert seconds to minutes 4952.6 / 60 = 82.54 seconds You can ignore the seconds <-> minutes passage and simplify into (86 min * 24) / 25 = 82.5 min Every PAL movie runs 4% less than theatrical version. |
why multiply by 24 then divide by 25, for a quick guide why not just multiply minutes by .96 to give the same result e.g. 86*.96
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weezee
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:21 am Post subject: |
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Purple.Nightmare
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:32 am Post subject: |
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hehe no prob i'm jus lazy so if it can be done simpler/quicker thats the route i'll take
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:30 am Post subject: |
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I already have this, its wonderful
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