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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:23 am  Post subject:
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Woot!! ...internet infamy .... heh heh :argue:

Sorry if I'm not a true believer, I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy but I'm way too much of cynic to believe everything I read ... the content of my posts is not as "out there" as some but I have still seen many of those ones posted by the other guys. Great entertainment if nothing else ( don't let the truth stand in the way of a good conspiracy theory, and all that!)
Alex Jones is a bit evangalist for me but me said something like this about David Icke (he paints a good picture but then ruins it by saying "..oh, btw they are all lizards from outer space") ... is that the pot calling the kettle black or what??

I think you should watch these with large pinch of salt handy....as you should with anything (goes double for broadcast tv). ed2k: Orwell.Rolls.in.his.Grave.2004.DVDRip.DivX.avi  [682.07 Mb] [Stats]
I often change my mind about things....thats what it's there for :grin:

I think it could also be true as someone mentioned about agent provocateurs spreading black propaganda or disinformation to discredit any true claims.



Glad someone mentioned "Deus Ex" , that is great game with every conspiracy you can think of all rolled into one. gives some good background if you talk to characters too. ed2k: Deus_Ex-(CloneCD).Gowenna.rar  [485.66 Mb] [Stats]

"Truth and Lies of 9/11" I thought was quite good too, it's a bit old now - he made it in 2001 shortly after the attacks in the US. ed2k: The.Truth.And.Lies.Of.9-11.(Documentary.Mike.Ruppert).avi  [704.17 Mb] [Stats]

the moon landing hoax is great too, not to say that man didn't land on the moon but it is very plauable that they filmed it first in a studio, even if they never used it, but just in case something went wrong. ..makes you wonder which version we actually saw?!!?
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The NWO itself is not a conspiracy at all, it is a reality being implemented in practice by such organizations as the WTO, CFR, Trilateral Commission, IMF, PNAC, blah blah blah (weather you think this is for better or for worse doesn't stop it from being true) it's not all the US either, they are just not very subtle about it.
..in fact you could just say the 'World Order', cause it's not really new anymore :)


I didn't even bother commenting on the 'Blair & London Bombing' thread, even if it is true... posted on the same day you must expect people without understanding on the matters to find that thread insensitive.
- better points IMO were made @ Conspiracy Central
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Why now? What is the rational idea behind such an attack?

If we speculate on common sense motives, as per hegelian philosophical theory, behind this attack, a few ideas pops to mind.

* Shift world focus away from G8 meetings and results of these meetings.
* Boost fear in England & western allies by remind people of terrorism.
* Push England (&their allies) to attack "evidence-linked, country" (ie. Iran, "axis of evil")
* Tighten security & thus control over the population (introduce more BB cameras, national ID, surveilance laws, "papers please", etc)


..before anyone flames me with the "oh they would never do such a thing" check out this. (It's the US I know not UK but wait 30 years maybe something interesting will come out.) Declassifed from the 60s, (proberly find paper documents in the real world if you don't want to believe) = Northwoods - ed2k: declassified.NORTHWOODS.pdf  [777.2 Kb] [Stats]
(plot to blowup/crash planes and blame it on Cuba)

Anyone whos actually interested in Geo-Politics should download some stuff from my *Greatest Hits* thread, lots of intersting and informative documentaries there IMHO.

/end rant :cheers: enjoy


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Well that's just it; its not the concept its the increabily implausable and poorly thought out way some people seem to grasp facts and put them through the wrong shaped wholes, and the interweaving of everything into one neat plot. If there's anything that should be abundantly clear, there's never one neat plot... ie. have you seen titantic? :lol:

The concept of global government is obvious and apparant (duh!), that's not whats the issue with the nwo conspiracy. Its the NWO conspiracy bullshit is just utter rubbish. Lets be distinct, the NWO conspiracy is an extreme view on global government that speculates everyones going to be ensalved by cultist elite (eye on the dollar and all that jazz) to do all kinds of nasty stuff (I've heard quelling the population, corporate government, etc.). Its not the obvious Chomsky version of world governance converging, since convergence can be seen without any looking. It becomes apparant by looking at the difference between administrations (most apparant in domestic policies) they are just doing everything reactionarly and for their own needs. The systematic and continual plan by every single office and administration... yeah right, they can't even file papers properally. It's these freaks, what do you do with them? they just gibber on and on and on as if what they're saying is the god's honest truth... i tried Geezus' suggestion and it worked... for a while. I don't even like the tool :lol:

As for the fti, rather sad and miguided "brainwashed, ignorant, etc" comments, it became apparant real fast they'd not even read the topic or at least understood a word in it :roll:

That northwood file is always rolled out (and your quite right, it is the us and not the uk, which means it doesn't mean much at all applied to the bombings), and i'm sure everyones read it by now, or at least seen it quoted because its in every 911 documentry (infact the nwo freak i was talking about kept quoting it as he jumped round a centuries worth of history), but its always used to ill effect. Funniest thing i saw was I've seen it used by some fat public access tv american clown that linked it to the illuminati and the nwo, then said that there secret plan was to reduce the population by some drastic percentage (quoting Prince Charles book on environmentalism :lol: ), and then went on to 'show' how they were going to attack christians, showing footage of police / army execersives in a town. Then he concluded with the message "keep your guns" in an NRA slogan like stance. Lets just say it was amusing to see his little dot to dot.

When it comes to the moon landing, you can use that to test how suseptable someone is to bullshit I've found. They were never going to do a live feed, what was there, a ten minute buffer + the delay it took to get back to earth? It's impossible with such a distance to have a live feed, i mean look at so called 'live feeds from other countries' with the delays. The actuality of that broadcast is it wasn't live at all, it was impossible to do so, so they obviously went 'what the fuck' and edited it into something watchable... obviously propaganda purposes served. One of the most used 'disproving theories' is that the footage has been edited... er yes, so? :lol: Its amazing how many people think it was live... but then again, its even more amazing how many people think it never happened on even less evidence. :lol:

Of course i don't have a [i]CNN[i] internet poll to 'prove' those :lol: :googley: :lol: :mrgreen:

A lot of the time it clearly comes down to just 'rebelling' based on their dislike of government (which is fine, because there's so much to dislike it about), and in the states given the size of government, I'm not surprised these conspiracies appear at all, but its the wrong thing to do, grasp to the fantastical or unsubtantiated. Best way to register distaste is through activism on whats happening (ie. privatisation, corporate involvement, foreign policy, etc.) rather than buying into the fantastical, because it just bites the arguement in the ass. Lets just say i'd be amazed if it turned out they never landed on the moon, given the evidence that shows they quite clearly did far outways the patchwork conspiracy and suggestion they didn't on breadcrums.

When it comes to broadcast tv though, one of the best documentries i've personally seen on fear is from the BBC, and was very well done. It was better researched than most of these fantastical documentries, and didn't fall into the NWO speculator trap of crossing administrations and generalising one person as all people, or generalisation of demographics as if they could bare to be in the same room as each other. The Power of Nightmares i believe it was called.

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hehehe , yeah I hear ya. :roll:

I bring you stuff I found interesting & urge people to make their own judgements, I'm not going to waste my time trying to "convert" anyone. There is often a bit of truth in all conspiracy theories, but some of those low tech underground vidz could do with a good director/editor , I guess they wouldn't be underground then tho' !?!

yep, overall I liked "power of nightmares" too, it's on me *Greatest Hits* list. He is quite good that Adam Curtis guy I think. I posted a couple of others by him, I liked his "century of the self" a lot too.
Here is a link to a article in which he get bashed a bit by some leftish guys saying how he avoided many subjects .
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle ... temID=6700
..can't please all the people all the time I guess?? Hehehhe ..my response was "well, it is from the BigBrotherCorporation after all"


I am undersided on many topics and how to respond and are well aware that things are often manipulated and it's hard to see whats really the true motives, so I try not to take stances and make to many judgement calls as you may be inadvertantly making it worse. I just try to inform myself and affect the things I can.

I think even if all of that NWO stuff was true some people would prefer not to believe. I mean it's too big and scary for most and what to do about it half the time anyway?? perfect example: chemtrails.
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Its the NWO conspiracy bullshit is just utter rubbish


Well obviously ... everyone knows that the world is actually controlled by Cthulhu cultists.

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Well obviously ... everyone knows that the world is actually controlled by Cthulhu cultists.


When i saw NWO freaks i thought this topic was going to be about some professional wrestling bullshit. Phew!

Anyway, some conspiracy threorists are just plain fuckin nuts. But when you have a religion such as christianity dominating the world how the fuck can you look down on these conspiracy nutballs? Haha! Seriously, I think that 90% of all belief systems are completely insane. Nonetheless at least some of them are interesting. Its obvious that there are some very shadey aspects of the government but some people just tend to get carried away. No offense to anyone's beliefs, just my opinions.

Oh and i have no agreement with the Cthulhu cultists. Damn them and their rigid ways of depriving this wretched world of the most infamous horrors that be. Its Nyarlathotep who is truely the supreme king. Cthulhu cultists need to go back and reread some of the Lovecraftian mythos and realize that Cthulhu isnt all he's cracked up to be. Nyarlathotep's wrath is unfolding right before our eyes everyday in the news. With Cthulhu we only have the whimpering threat of his devourment as our ultimate fate. Well i say dont do us any favors! I'll take devourment and eternal slavery anyday over Nyarlathotep's wrath of destruction.

Besides isnt Cthulhu's menacing wrath just a play on biblical revelations? There is a reason Lovecraft died with his mind torn to hell. It was because of deities like Nyarlathotep and Hastur. I feel like my mind is going to snap like a fucking twig just discussing all of this madness. Oh the haunting fear! 8)

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Well obviously ... everyone knows that the world is actually controlled by Cthulhu cultists.


Yeah and they all hang out at the 'grove', anyone from the uk knows what that means... the children of byker grove must be destroyed :wacky:

What's the deal with that place, why don't any of the kids go to school? Is it a young offenders institute or something?

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