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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:37 am  Post subject:
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/crosses Be off the list of potential future ISPs.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:06 pm  Post subject:
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erm, that's largely the be lite (read: checking email package) terms and conditions though. Every company's lite packages are like that, from BT to Bulldog to Zen, etc. That's how they come off so cheap. :)


Be Unlimited or Be Office that are twice and five times more expensive only have "excessive" chalked next to it. I'm pretty sure that's standard t&c talk, i know its been in BTs, bulldogs and it was in zens before their packages shat out. Only bt exercised it briefly and zen has phased out the product.

I'm going to fire off an email though (asking exactly what is excessive and whether they throttle/censor) and have it clarified :)

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:34 am  Post subject:
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spudthedestroyer wrote:
erm, that's largely the be lite (read: checking email package) terms and conditions though.

They state that belite customers will be charged an extra £1 per gig that they use over the allowed 4 gig a month in 5 gig chunks.

Toucan was one of those claiming unlimited downloads, smallprint stating 'fair usage policy applies'. Turned out after a bit of research that they were a middle man for Tiscali (Toucan themselves refused to tell me). Upon application I spent half hour on the phone asking every question I could think of & stated very clearly that I was a heavy user. The girl I spoke to said there was no way that I could ever be a victim of fair usage policy as in her eyes my usage wasnt excessive, although she was unable to clarify what excessive was as it does not state in the policy. I spent 3 months battling toucan to release me from the contract which they finally did after agreeing that theyd broken the contract for failing to provide adequate technical support, but refused to give me a mac code claiming that because they were new they didnt subscribe to the mac code protocol. :argue:
I had to switch to NTL coz of their mac code inadequacies or spend 3-4 weeks on dial up whilst switching isp. (NTL is about to merge with Virgin & become VirginMedia http://knowfirst.co.uk/) :eatthis:

As good as 24mb sounds, a fair usage policy will only put me off now.
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I'm going to fire off an email though (asking exactly what is excessive and whether they throttle/censor) and have it clarified :)

Good idea coz at least you'll have it in writing, but just beware of the 'we reserve the right to change our T&C at any time' get out clause.

This has gone right off topic, do we have 1 for ISPs? lol :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:55 pm  Post subject:
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Nope, i think that's largely a future get out clause and applies to the lite product
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Thank you for contacting us.
The Be Unlimited service is really unlimited, you don't have any limitation of the traffic. The only port that we are blocking is port 25 and we are blocking only with members with dynamic IP's.

Regards,
The Be Team


I suspect that they will in the future do some capping or something dodgy, all isps do/will. That's why so many rise and fall. Be is a 3 month notice on termination though, so providing there's notice it shouldn't be so bad. If they don't start messing with the traffic for a year or two i'd be happy with them. Still considering the switch.

meanwhile, zen is imminently about to become extremely shitty:

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On 1st March 2007 we are going to introduce a monthly usage allowance on all Home 1000 and Home 2000 broadband services. The usage allowance will be 100 gigabytes (GB) per month.

WHY?
A small number of our Home 1000 and Home 2000 customers are extreme users of our service. They leave their computers downloading files 24 hours per day, day after day, week after week. This extreme usage costs Zen hundreds of pounds per month for each extreme user – many times our income from the monthly subscription fee. In the past we have subsidised this usage but we are no longer prepared to incur this loss.

By introducing a 100 GB monthly usage allowance we will limit the financial loss generated by the extreme users whilst leaving the vast majority of our customers completely unaffected.

HOW MUCH IS 100 GIGABYTES?
100 GB is a vast amount of usage, enough to download 40 feature length movies, thousands of songs, and to browse the Web for as long as you want. In other words, 100 GB is more than enough for anything other than the kind of extreme usage described above.

WHAT HAPPENS ON REACHING 100 GB?
The usage allowance for Home 1000 / 2000 will be handled in the same way as the usage allowances for Zen 8000 Lite / Active / Pro. If you reach 100 GB part way through a month your Internet access will be blocked and your web browser will display a page giving you the option to buy additional usage for £1.49 (inc. VAT) per GB. For full details, please see:
http://www.zenbroadband.com/athome.aspx?page=510

HOW WILL THIS CHANGE AFFECT ME?
Your peak usage over the last 3 months was 203 GB so this change is likely to affect you unless you reduce your usage. If you want to continue to download over 100 GB per month you have the option of either paying for the additional usage at £1.49 (inc VAT) per GB, or switching to one of our unlimited services (Office 500 / 1000 / 2000 / 8000 Max).

If you have any questions about this change please do not hesitate to contact us.

Best regards
Richard Tang
Managing Director


No point commenting on how moronic it is to say 100GB is more than enough in the same mail that says i'm downloading too much.

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Blocking you when you get to 100GB, thats bollox, it wouldn't be so bad if they dropped the download to 256k or something but to block altogether :o

Anyways back on topic, talking about mpeg4. Sky are going to drop 3 channels from freeview and replace with streaming mpeg4.

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Sky will replace its three existing DTT channels with four new 24-hour streams using the more efficient Mpeg4 compression technology.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6343715.stm

And of course they hope you buy another box.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:28 am  Post subject:
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lol, speaking of which, how come bbc sports feed look like complete ass on british digital tv? Are they compressing it to 700kb/s or something? :outsider:

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Divx is now even supported on home players so... iI think it speaks for itself... like mp3 is supported on new audio hardware :roll:

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I have all my movies on hard disk...that means the files have to be small...and I'm not worried about the future the files gonna be smaller (even hd movies gonna be under 1 GB ) and better...


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files have to small on a hdd? wtf?

I have mine on hdd, and i have hundreds of rips ranging from 700mb to 4.38GB per disc... you know you can buy hdd at 750GB these days?


Or do you mean you have a small hdd and only one of them, so the rips have to be small. i use hdd as a storage and it allows for huge files, you just buy more hdd when you fill em :wacky:

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spudthedestroyer wrote:
files have to small on a hdd? wtf?

I have mine on hdd, and i have hundreds of rips ranging from 700mb to 4.38GB per disc... you know you can buy hdd at 750GB these days?


Or do you mean you have a small hdd and only one of them, so the rips have to be small. i use hdd as a storage and it allows for huge files, you just buy more hdd when you fill em :wacky:

what I mean if every movie had been 5 GB ..my harddisk had been full long time ago.. right now I have about 800 GB all togheter..and its soon all used...but my next buy gonna be atleast 1 tera..that means I get 1,8 tera 8)...but does this mean you dont think the technolegy goes in the direction of better quality smaller file size ?


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no, i mean that the suggestion that hdd = smaller files is silly, you have the potential to store movies at whatever size you want, much more freedom than DVDr or CDr. hdd = free choice of size.

What you need to consider is what's best for the movie and what's best for you.

I choose ~afr since i think its the best compromise between space and quality, thats 1.46GB for a decent 1/3rd rip. I don't have to concern myself overly with the trivialities of making them fit a dvdr, but i choose that size because its the best compromise of compression to quality.


I have all my movies on hdd but i'm not going to make them piddley little files and i think its a waste to compress hd so radically. The concept of increased resolution needs increased bitrate else your dealing with SD still, by reducing the resolution.

No i allocate appropriate amounts of compression to the rips and the hdd technology supports larger filesizes and flexibility than it does smaller filesizes.

I just found the association between hdd and it must be small filesizes baffling, that's all :)

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spudthedestroyer wrote:

I choose ~afr since i think its the best compromise between space and quality, thats 1.46GB for a decent 1/3rd rip. I don't have to concern myself overly with the trivialities of making them fit a dvdr, but i choose that size because its the best compromise of compression to quality.



yes I have alot of those 2 cd rips...actually I had preferd one 1,4 GB file not two files on 700 MB ...I dont care about the cd burning people :lol:

...and I didnt mean hdd = smaller files ..but what I meant was that I dont want all my movies in real DVD sizes (5GB)...the point of ripping in xvid is to have smaller sized files isnt it ? ..I even watch 700 MB rips (my own rips) instead of watching the dvd...its much easier to just dubble click the avi file...my pc monitor is an 32 " LG lcd


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