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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:45 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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Thank you for input, elchupacabra.

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The dvd is anamorphic so you need to relax ITU-R in gknot, that should make it look better.


My ITU-R was turned off cause the DVD is anamorphic:

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Edit: I have to cut the black from the sides and then I get the little vertically (101%) stretch. See my settings.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:07 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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Ok. I just wanted to make sure your rip is going to be perfect. :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:00 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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elguaxo wrote:
I'm working on a Beginners Guide to Ripping with MeGUI. I will post it next week and I won't delete the screenshots :lol:

Hi elguaxo

How's it going with your guide...?

And did you look into the SeeSaw setting?

THX in advance.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:27 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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Why don't you just experiment on your own? That's how you can learn the fastest.

All options are explained here: http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/SeeSaw
A discussion with a few examples are here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=104701

Good luck! :wink:


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:06 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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AvsP is a neat little app that lets you see the immediate effect of tweaking script settings. Good for playing around with parameters before committing to any encoding time.

http://avisynth.org/qwerpoi/


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:06 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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fuEgo wrote:
How's it going with your guide...?

still working on it!

fuEgo wrote:
And did you look into the SeeSaw setting?

default values work very good:

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Import("D:\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\SeeSaw.avs")

DGDecode_mpeg2source("I:\videos\fuego\Oh.in.Ohio.demuxed.d2v",info=3)
ColorMatrix(hints=true)

crop( 2, 72, -2, -72)
Spline36Resize(720,304)

SeeSaw()


Perhaps you will need to switch from Didées 6of9 to heini_mr.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:26 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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ViSCeRaL wrote:
AvsP is a neat little app that lets you see the immediate effect of tweaking script settings. Good for playing around with parameters before committing to any encoding time.

http://avisynth.org/qwerpoi/

Or simply drag&drop your AVS file into virtualdubmod. :beerchug:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:58 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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THX elguaxo, looks good.

But I get this n00b error:
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What is wrong?

elchupacabra: I would like to, but first I need some guidelines... :mrgreen:

Edit (my script so far):
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# Created with Gordian Knot
#
# http://gknot.doom9.org

# PLUGINS
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GordianKnot\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GordianKnot\AviSynthPlugins\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GordianKnot\AviSynthPlugins\UnDot.dll")
Import("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\SeeSaw.avs")

# SOURCE
mpeg2source("H:\Make Xvid\The Oh in Ohio\Project_4\Oh.in.Ohio_5.d2v")

ColorMatrix(hints=true)

# DEINTERLACING (1)
FieldDeinterlace(blend=false)

crop( 2, 72, -2, -72)
Spline36Resize(720,304)

SeeSaw()


Next error:
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:32 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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This seems to work...
Code:
# Created with Gordian Knot
#
# http://gknot.doom9.org

#  PLUGINS
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GordianKnot\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GordianKnot\AviSynthPlugins\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GordianKnot\AviSynthPlugins\UnDot.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GordianKnot\AviSynthPlugins\ColorMatrix.dll")

Import("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\SeeSaw.avs")

#  SOURCE
mpeg2source("H:\Make Xvid\The Oh in Ohio\Project_4\Oh.in.Ohio_5.d2v")
ColorMatrix(d2v="Oh.in.Ohio_5.d2v")

#  DEINTERLACING (1)
FieldDeinterlace(blend=false)

crop( 2, 72, -2, -72)
Spline36Resize(720,304)

SeeSaw()


According to my calculation it will take ~10 hours... :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:09 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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RedVeil wrote:
ViSCeRaL wrote:
AvsP is a neat little app that lets you see the immediate effect of tweaking script settings. Good for playing around with parameters before committing to any encoding time.

http://avisynth.org/qwerpoi/

Or simply drag&drop your AVS file into virtualdubmod. :beerchug:


AvsP gives much more functionality with a live image update. :beerchug:


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:39 am  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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Okay... so it only took 05:23:44.

Some comparisons:

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:D :rock:


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:37 am  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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Looks good. You could also compare a close picture of a face or something similar. :)


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:23 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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@fuego, your script has:
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FieldDeinterlace(blend=false)


but the sample you uploaded was not interlaced.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:01 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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@elguaxo, my bad. Just saw the movie again and didn't notice any problem... is it a problem then?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:10 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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Don't know how good or bad is FieldDeinterlace. If it's a smart deinterlacer, then nothing happens. But if it's not that smart, then you will loose some details here and there.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:24 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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elguaxo wrote:
Don't know how good or bad is FieldDeinterlace. If it's a smart deinterlacer, then nothing happens. But if it's not that smart, then you will loose some details here and there.


Okay, so I will do it again like this:
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# Created with Gordian Knot
#
# http://gknot.doom9.org

#  PLUGINS
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GordianKnot\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GordianKnot\AviSynthPlugins\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GordianKnot\AviSynthPlugins\UnDot.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GordianKnot\AviSynthPlugins\ColorMatrix.dll")

Import("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\SeeSaw.avs")

#  SOURCE
mpeg2source("H:\Make Xvid\The Oh in Ohio\Project_4\Oh.in.Ohio_5.d2v")
ColorMatrix(d2v="Oh.in.Ohio_5.d2v")

#  DEINTERLACING (1)
#  FieldDeinterlace(blend=false)

crop( 2, 72, -2, -72)
Spline36Resize(720,304)

SeeSaw()


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:33 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:52 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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The difference is very small, but slightly better without FieldDeinterlace.

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Hint: See shiny underlip on left girl... :shadey:

And here is comparison with old PH2 encode:

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:34 am  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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ViSCeRaL wrote:
RedVeil wrote:
ViSCeRaL wrote:
AvsP is a neat little app that lets you see the immediate effect of tweaking script settings. Good for playing around with parameters before committing to any encoding time.

http://avisynth.org/qwerpoi/

Or simply drag&drop your AVS file into virtualdubmod. :beerchug:


AvsP gives much more functionality with a live image update. :beerchug:

Kind of a bear to work with....certainly doesn't work for me like the tutorial shows...I ain't giving up yet though.You're supposed to just hit new tab and be able to see what results are changed in the image preview but that doesn't work for me :( I figured out a way but like a I said..a bit of a bear. :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:27 am  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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DxaKrator wrote:
ViSCeRaL wrote:
AvsP gives much more functionality with a live image update. :beerchug:

Kind of a bear to work with....certainly doesn't work for me like the tutorial shows...I ain't giving up yet though.You're supposed to just hit new tab and be able to see what results are changed in the image preview but that doesn't work for me :( I figured out a way but like a I said..a bit of a bear. :lol:


Really? I just hit F5 (I think) to refresh the image preview and it opens a panel at the bottom of the window with sliders for all the script variables which you can then play with and see the image update in real time. I've never read a tutorial as it all seems so intuitive.


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