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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:18 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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If I don't call deblock_qed() I get the same result as if I were calling it. :o
Thanks for the hint to the other Plugins, I got them already. :wink:

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:31 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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Then something is wrong on your side. Blocky sample and the script I used:

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DGDecode_mpeg2source("H:\videos\samples\SampleWarrior.d2v")

deblock_qed( quant1=30,quant2=60)

crop( 0, 0, -2, -4)
Spline36Resize(720,400)


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:33 am  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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You are right! It really does some deblocking, only the difference between source and result was so small that I barely even noticed - so I changed the parameters, like you mentioned.
So I used both (deblock and dfttest) functions now and must say that the output is very nice. Thanks for your help elguaxo!

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:12 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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Hmm, I think this is a difficult one:

The frames in my current rip are 25 fps PAL but(!) interlaced. So there are no full frames only half frames. What do I use in such a case?

EDIT: Sorry it is interlaced NOT de-interlaced. :oops:

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:32 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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post a sample :wink:


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:41 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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http://rapidshare.com/files/188782614/V ... d.m2v.html

Thanks in advance elguaxo!

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:09 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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RedVeil wrote:
So there are no full frames only half frames. What do I use in such a case?


Interpolation

1) Quick - Yadif: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=124284

Code:
Yadif(order=1)


2) Painful but will get tiny more details here and there - TDeint / TMM / NNEDI combo:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=82264
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=129953

Code:
Interp = nnedi(field=1)
TDeint(order=1,field=1,type=1,edeint=Interp,emask=TMM(order=1,field=1))


3) Beyond painful :o - MCBob or TempGaussMC. I used MCBob only once and I know I won't use it ever again. :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:07 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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When I use nnedi I get the following AviSynth error message:

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error:"nnedi: height must be mod 2!"


Here's my current script. The height should be dividable by 2. :roll:
# Created with Notepad

#

# http://gknot.doom9.org



# PLUGINS

LoadPlugin("D:\MYPROG~1\GORDIA~1\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")

LoadPlugin("D:\MyProgies\AviSynth2.5\plugins_extra\nnedi.dll")

LoadPlugin("D:\MyProgies\AviSynth2.5\plugins_extra\TMM.dll")

LoadPlugin("D:\MyProgies\AviSynth2.5\plugins_extra\TDeint.dll")



# SOURCE

mpeg2source("D:\Temp\ravenous_deleted_scenes.d2v")



# CROPPING

crop(6,126,710,322)

#ConvertToYUY2()



#--------------- Scene 1 - "shit shoveling scene" ---------------

# needs deinterlacing + looks very blurry

sc01 = trim(0, 756)

#interp = sc01.nnedi(field=1)

#sc01 = tdeint(order=1, field=1, type=1, edeint=interp, emask=TMM(order=1, field=1))



# !!! Frame 757 has to be dropped !!!



#--------------- Scene 2, 3, 4 - "shaving", "winter", "night" ---------------

#...

# Put the scenes together

sc01#++sc020304++sc05++sc06a++sc06b++sc06c07++sc0809++sc09++sc1011++sc12++sc1314++sc15a++sc15b



# RESIZING

#Spline36Resize(640,272)



# COMPRESSIBILITY CHECK

# !!!!Snip Size now has to be 14 for use in GKnot!

#SelectRangeEvery(280,14)

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:09 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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RedVeil wrote:
When I use nnedi I get the following AviSynth error message:

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error:"nnedi: height must be mod 2!"



try deinterlacing before cropping.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:18 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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OK that helped me to get rid of the error, so I am currently doing this:

sc01 = trim(0, 756)

interp = sc01.nnedi(field=1)

sc01.tdeint(order=1, field=1, type=1, edeint=interp, emask=sc01.TMM(order=1, field=1))


But the result still looks interlaced like before. :(

EDIT: I forgot the "sc01 =" in the last line. :oops:

sc01 = sc01.tdeint(order=1, field=1, type=1, edeint=interp, emask=sc01.TMM(order=1, field=1))


This does work well! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! :googley: :devil: :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:21 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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it's probably the trimming. try without trimming and if it works, you'll know where the problem is. :mrgreen:

edit: fixed! great :)


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:08 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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One last question regarding the result of the interpolation.
In scenes with fast movement the interpolation results in objects which are not really there.
Look at the example below. The bottom image is the original interlaced frame. The top image is the same frame interpolated.

Is there any way to get rid of those "unreal objects"?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:59 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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Fieldblends. I'd try bobbing (50fps) and then restoring it to 25fps using srestore.

bobbing script similar to the deinterlacing script you are using now:
Code:
Interp = nnedi(field=3)
TDeint(mode=1,order=1,type=1,edeint=Interp,emask=TMM(mode=1,order=1))


and then Srestore:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=95924
Code:
srestore(frate=25,cache=5)


The latest version of Srestore has a big memory leak:
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1 ... tcount=305
Last week I had to process the video in smaller so I wouldn't run out of RAM: url=http://bad-good.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=121643#p121643


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:07 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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After adapting the script there are still Fieldblends like before. What am I doing wrong?

sc05 = trim(3351, 3666)
interp = sc05.nnedi(field=3)
sc05 = sc05.tdeint(mode=1, order=1, type=1, edeint=interp, emask=sc05.TMM(mode=1, order=1))
sc05 = sc05.srestore(frate=25, cache=5)

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:21 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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Sorry for being such a newbie but I can't seem to get this working. :oops:
Which means: I apply the Srestore function and the result looks the same.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:41 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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RedVeil wrote:
Sorry for being such a newbie but I can't seem to get this working. :oops:


no problem! upload a sample that has this part:

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:24 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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Sure thing elguaxo. Here is the whole part: http://rapidshare.com/files/191172910/r ... d.m2v.html (it's pretty short)

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:14 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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Elguaxo, have you downloaded the sample?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:35 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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I have it, I'll take a look tomorrow! :)


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:02 pm  Post subject: Re: Beginners Guide To Ripping With Gordian Knot
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elguaxo wrote:
I have it, I'll take a look tomorrow! :)

It's the day after tomorrow, did you have time to take a look? :roll:

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