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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:06 am  Post subject: 4 mosche di velluto grigio / 4 Flies on Grey Velvet (1971)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:16 pm  Post subject: Re: 4 mosche di velluto grigio / 4 Flies on Grey Velvet (1971)
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I have the german DVD, but it seems unofficial and it's shorter than this, so I'll take it as well. Is the picture quality constant or are there parts that look like inserts? German DVD is 90% DVD quality with several lower quality inserts.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:28 pm  Post subject: Re: 4 mosche di velluto grigio / 4 Flies on Grey Velvet (1971)
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weezee wrote:
German DVD is 90% DVD quality with several lower quality inserts.


I finished the download just a few hours ago. I can't see any lower quality inserts. And the extra footage seems to be a longer scene at the end.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:54 pm  Post subject: Re: 4 mosche di velluto grigio / 4 Flies on Grey Velvet (1971)
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Ok thanks, so this must be the final real complete version :beerchug:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:12 pm  Post subject: Re: 4 mosche di velluto grigio / 4 Flies on Grey Velvet (1971)
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This version has some footage missing, about 40 seconds due to print damage. Also a complain about the audio running slower then usual. So this is not a perfect release.

Full details here.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:17 pm  Post subject: Re: 4 mosche di velluto grigio / 4 Flies on Grey Velvet (1971)
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Ouch. BTW, can't read that, must be registered.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:00 pm  Post subject: Re: 4 mosche di velluto grigio / 4 Flies on Grey Velvet (1971)
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Mmm, this is my least favourite Argento, I thought it was pretty boring (hides).

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:04 pm  Post subject: Re: 4 mosche di velluto grigio / 4 Flies on Grey Velvet (1971)
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Okay, here are the full details;

"Alright. I've gone through both the German Retro and the Mya releases and checked every scene. There seems to be three transitions with missing footage totaling approximately :39 seconds. Or :40-:41 after the PAL conversion. The rest of this post contains SPOILERS for the plot so beware.

Scene #1 [murder/party]: - Mya version

At the end of the murder in the park, the maid's hand is clawing down the wall. Before it stops, it cuts to the party scene and a brief 17-frame shot, then Dalia and Nina.

Dalia: If I'm a nuisance, I'll go.

Scene #1 [murder/party]: - Retro version

The maid's hand comes to a complete stop on wall, then it cuts to the party scene. Dalia and Nina walking left to right toward Roberto.

Dalia: Hi Roberto
Roberto: Hi Dalia. How come--
Nina: My little cousin's taking a vacation. She's going to be staying with us for a while.
Dalia: Look. If I'm a nuisance.

This missing footage runs for :10 seconds but is crucial as it sets up Dalia's character in the film!

Scene #2 [professor/mailman/dalia]: - Mya version

There's some audio missing from the Professor in this scene. "___________ in there half an hour" and "Genesis 12 ______"

The mailman rides up on his bike and says to Roberto, "what you standing there for, huh?" and it cuts to Roberto sitting in a chair with Dalia kneeling beside him.

Dalia: Why didn't you go with Nina?

Scene #2 [professor/mailman/dalia]: - Retro version

The Professor audio is also missing here but so is the picture. When those lines come up, it just cuts past it. There is also a little more missing from print damage.

When the mailman rides up he says, "what you standing there for, huh? Oh, no. I quit!" Then he turns and leaves. It cuts to Roberto sitting in a chair alone. After a beat, Dalia comes in from the left and kneels beside him.

This missing footage runs for :10 seconds not counting the missing audio.

Scene #3 [Arossio death/Andrea]: - Mya version

Arrosio gets shot up and is dying but realizes he finally solved a case. "I was right. I did it this time." Abrupt cut to scene with Andrea and Roberto. After a beat, Andrea says, "Hmm. Nina telephoned me."

Scene #3 [Arossio death/Andrea]: - Retro version

"I was right. I did it this time." His head falls to the side with eyes wide open. A beat then cut to Roberto and Andrea.

Andrea: There I eventually established that in 4000 years of civilization there have been only 230 years of peace. Incredible, isn't it?
Roberto: Look, Andrea. I'm just not in the mood. What'd you want to see me about?
Andrea: Hmm. Nina telephoned me.

This missing footage runs for :19 seconds.

Total missing footage is :39 seconds.

Another thing I feel I should point out. I've seen this film countless times on bootleg tape and I really don't think that Mimsy and Michael's voices sound that deep. I'm afraid that this version has also been slowed down. I hope not to make up for the missing footage and thus the running time because that would be very, very bad.

They also spelled Mimsy's character Nina Tobias as Mina on the back of the box. Wow.

I noticed also that during the end credits that the audio was warbly a few times.

One last thing (I promise). During the two sequences at the end that have subtitles, there seems to be a couple of grammar issues there. I'll just leave it at that."


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:14 pm  Post subject: Re: 4 mosche di velluto grigio / 4 Flies on Grey Velvet (1971)
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Just in case someone is interested, spanish subs availables in SubDivX | Opensubtitles | Titles

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:24 pm  Post subject: Re: 4 mosche di velluto grigio / 4 Flies on Grey Velvet (1971)
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i'm not getting any sources on the subs or the english track. ok, this might be a really stupid question, but how do i add the subs/english track to the video? :oops:


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:32 pm  Post subject: Re: 4 mosche di velluto grigio / 4 Flies on Grey Velvet (1971)
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Sorry, I didn't download the english audio track and I haven't seen manikbr (the original ripper/releaser) in a while. If you get it then you can add the audio track via mkvtoolnix. It's just drag&drop, so it's very easy. :beerchug:


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:28 am  Post subject: Re: 4 mosche di velluto grigio / 4 Flies on Grey Velvet (1971)
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What a great dvd this is! Bought it a few weeks ago, and watched it recently, gotta say I love the over-the-top performances and tongue-in-cheek humor, GODfrey has some great lines even in English. Finally I own all Argento's films in DVD! (cept the new one of course)

The rip looks really great man, nice job and thanks! :beerchug: :beerchug: :beerchug:

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