fitting a movie on 1 vcd

i monster · **Posted:** Wed May 05, 2004 9:43 pm **Post subject:** fitting a movie on 1 vcd

i have been using tmpgenc to put films on 1 vcd ,cause as u probably know u can alter the bit rate,are there any other progs that can do this as im having trouble all of a sudden with tmpgenc

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Wed May 05, 2004 9:57 pm **Post subject:**

hmm i thought something very similar had been posted before.

CCE is the other major MPEG encoder. Beyond that I don't know... hate VCDs myself, never download them. Only DVD and mpeg4, and for the latter gknot does everything

PC_Arcade · **Posted:** Wed May 05, 2004 11:15 pm **Post subject:**

VCD!!! :-o

The_Skull · **Posted:** Thu May 06, 2004 7:22 am **Post subject:**

Use google to search for KVCD or SKVCD, if done properly you can have decent bitrates and a quite good TV quality. Never made some myself but in Holland this a very popular way to encode movies for the standalone player. Best method of making them is to use TMPGenc.

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Thu May 06, 2004 2:08 pm **Post subject:**

doom9.org are good on guides for everything going. http://www.dvdrhelp.com is another one.

Emperor · **Posted:** Sat May 08, 2004 11:57 am **Post subject:**

Yeah if you make a svcd the quality will be very good, at least me thinks i've done dozen flick this way. I recommend you not to make an SKVCD and definately not a VCD

Why are some of you guys negative about SVCD, VCD is crap imho SVCD i think is actually pretty darn good !!

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Sat May 08, 2004 9:16 pm **Post subject:**

Because its a primitive crap technology that is far inferior to any mpeg4 codec, requires more discs to get a okay result in comparison, is encoded with wasteful blackboards, supports crappier quality sound and worst of all, can not be reshared once burnt.

Pick a reason

All criticisms imo are very valid, and the one in favour is... it works on a standalone. But with mpeg4 standalones and the DVDr format, I don't see it with that much life left in it when mpeg4 goes mainstream.

Emperor · **Posted:** Sat May 08, 2004 10:22 pm **Post subject:**

Ok the part of the reshare i understand, therefore it sux.
Also for the amount of disc your probably right, as for the sound it isn't that bad at least me thought so lol !!

As for it works in the standalone, well almost everything workxx here in the standalone divx, xvid u name it. Nevertheless i don't have any bad feelings towards the SVCD in anyway. In fact maybe the time in the hourglass has run out, but it was good for the time beiing

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Sat May 08, 2004 10:47 pm **Post subject:**

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Also for the amount of disc your probably right, as for the sound it isn't that bad at least me thought so lol !!

MPEG2 audio vs 5.1 AC3

Emperor · **Posted:** Sun May 09, 2004 1:45 pm **Post subject:**

I thought it was actually mp3, but i think i made several dvd rips with dvd2svcd using tmpeg and still was able to use 5.1 ac3 ?!?!??!

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Sun May 09, 2004 4:28 pm **Post subject:**

possibly, I've never seen one... but I'm not in the habit of wasting 3 discs for an 80 minute movie which I assume is its price (and why no1 does them).

In retrospect, compressability is far higher with mpeg4, you fit a better quality rip onto smaller space. It's a win-win situation, I see no reasonable defence for an inferior platform with one advantage that is quickly becoming a non-issue. I reiterate the whole issue here, substandard in every respect apart from standalone compatability

I understand why the exist, it is purely for the non-technical minded people who just want to put an okay quality movie in their dvd player. And I understand why it is dying out quickly, because for the technical minded, its substandard. It maybe "alright" quality, but its far inferior to easier and better encodes using mpeg4... why have "okay" when you can have quality?

That's why you don't see people defending it, there's no point. That is also why SVCD releases are dwarfed by MPEG4 releases.

Emperor · **Posted:** Sun May 09, 2004 6:59 pm **Post subject:**

spudthedestroyer wrote:

why have "okay" when you can have quality?

That's why you don't see people defending it, there's no point. That is also why SVCD releases are dwarfed by MPEG4 releases.

I agree with you on that, i still like SVCD though even I don't care much for it anymore since, and you put it right: the Divx and the like are far better spread so eventually the choice of downloading a svcd or a divx will become much easier.

Also i think in the near future almost every standalone player will be able to play divx, xvid, etc. HELL YEAH !!

ow btw what is the quarterpixel tecnique in the new divx stuff??

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Mon May 10, 2004 12:29 am **Post subject:**

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ow btw what is the quarterpixel tecnique in the new divx stuff??

To me its the equivalent to a severe tachyon disruption off our starboard bow. You'll probably find something on http://www.doom9.org about it if you need to know what it means

Emperor · **Posted:** Mon May 10, 2004 7:00 am **Post subject:**

spudthedestroyer wrote:

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ow btw what is the quarterpixel tecnique in the new divx stuff??

To me its the equivalent to a severe tachyon disruption off our starboard bow. You'll probably find something on http://www.doom9.org about it if you need to know what it means

Well the only thing i need to know, is why this it beiin used in the new divx, cause my YAMADA player is not able to plat this :matrix:

so i was wondering what the pros and cons are.............. i will have a look on doom9

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Mon May 10, 2004 4:29 pm **Post subject:**

probably a matrix used to significantly increase the quality of the rip, and your player needs flashing to understand how to decode it properally.... at a guess

But if it didn't have a great benefit it wouldn't be used

Emperor · **Posted:** Mon May 10, 2004 5:53 pm **Post subject:**

spudthedestroyer wrote:

probably a matrix used to significantly increase the quality of the rip, and your player needs flashing to understand how to decode it properally.... at a guess

But if it didn't have a great benefit it wouldn't be used

Uhm lol the only benefit it has, is that i can make nice flying sourcers with the cd's i have fucked up, as my player doesn't support it :mrgreen:

Yeah i know i'm using avi check to see how the file has been build up now !! :beerchug:

They should come up quickly with an firmware update for me beloved Yamada

spudthedestroyer · **Posted:** Mon May 10, 2004 6:20 pm **Post subject:**

well, at least you can reshare the ones you backed up if need be... and of course watch em on your pc unless your setup sucks

Emperor · **Posted:** Mon May 10, 2004 6:34 pm **Post subject:**

Nottin wrong with me setup just want to watch on the telly !!, nothing can be compared with me telly and me lazy coutch

killingjokezzz · **Posted:** Mon May 10, 2004 7:49 pm **Post subject:**

@Emperor, if you've got a Yamada 6100 like me there will never be an upgrade for qpel or GMC support as the ESS chip can't handle it. However the newer 6600s can handle qpel.

I just re-encode to DivX 5.11 and CBR if I ever get any playback issues with whatever format of MPEG4.

Emperor · **Posted:** Tue May 11, 2004 4:27 pm **Post subject:**

Hey killingjokezzz, I have an yamada dvx6000, prob has the same problem and i hate re-encoding !! :mrgreen:

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