i don't understand why you would say that.

as far as upload goes who do you know that their isp gives them more upload speed then download??

second who says you can't control your upload??

third my upload is set at 70KB which is almost my max.

so i don't see what the whole upload is about.

even if you wanna talk about upload i can upload better and more with edk lite then with emule.

i don't see how me uploading and downloading to my isp max is beeing a leech .

what seems to be the question that i'm not answering??

why can i download with speeds of 500KB and only upload at 70KB???

do i even need to answer that????

btw somebody said they tested it and they said it was slow and lack of sources when emule was not

so i asked for an ed2k so i can see this stagnent download and low sources myself.

so far the facts show which one is slower, and thats an ed2k you guys picked.

now what about upload seems to be the problem??

because if i download some very poplar porn file i can get the same exact speeds with emule after a while.

so what is the upload questions then??

not to mention that edk lite downlaod are based soley on the uploads if you don't share you don't get shit for download.

the reason i have good speeds with edk lite is because i share so much so lets keep the leech bs aside. there is no leeching going on any where.

Noone, that wasn't what I was saying

Everyone who has tried the client and posted HERE with their findings
see, there's one.

And there's another

Good, what's your point?

It's about having CONTROL, making sure that one file is given priority over another etc. for releasing purposes

I see NOTHING in this thread based on others experience that would back that statement up

WTF are you talking about, no one has accused you of being a leech

The question of upload CONTROLS with ed2k lite, you seem fixed on download speed, with little concern for uload


No, and it wasn't the question.


Download points

The lack of control over releasing individual files

Err good for you, what has that got to do with anything??

The lack of control over releasing individual files

So how do the (Numerous and various) leech clients work then?
The above statement isn't neccessarily correct, you don't HAVE to share to download, you could for example use netlimiter or simillar to not upload at all and get full downloads

You were never accused of it, the only BS about leeching is coming from you

There's plenty of leeching on the ed2k network and every other p2p network for that matter.

i can do the same thing i can with emule



whats your point??

you can give files priority with edklite also

and if you are calling the client i'm using a leech then i must be a leech myself

Yes, you can. What point of mine are you disagreeing with??

There ISN'T as much control over uploads with any edonkey2000 based client as there is with emule

Not at all, there are clients such as LSD emule which are considered leech clients (by the emule devs), it doesn't mean everyone (or anyone) using it is a leech. Besides, I've just re-read my post and I didn't call you client a leech client, I merely asked about uploads.
Perhaps I should have avoided the "L" word, but from the evidence posted here, this is not a suitable client for releasers.

One think I don't uderstand is why you're taking it so personally, You can slag the client I use off to your hearts content, I couldn't care less.

lol please explain how you can control upload priority with emule that you can't do with edonkey, lol.

you said you can change the download of edonkey without any real ratio to download, then i post you a pic saying but the same thing can be done with emule( aka don't critisize edk for somsethnig emule does also) but you post my pick back saying "es, you can. What point of mine are you disagreeing with??. lol i mean i don't even know what to say.

to be honest so far i find every thing you are saying contradictive and general.

so pleas tell me exactly how is edonkey hurting the network by n ot giving "as much control over uploads with any edonkey2000 based client as there is with emule"

i mean how much can you controll and upload anyways??

you set the # of slots, change the amont of upload speed limit, and the priority of the uploads

all 3 of the above can be done with the same degree with both emule and edonkey.

if not explain

I'm unable to ATM as I'm at work. However it's been pointed out by users here that even with those settings, the upload is still poor

Where did I say that?

OK, I'll explain it again, The picture you posted would result in you getting low downloads from Emule (assuming you're using a legit version) as you need to share over 10kbps to qualify for "full" downloads. You can set it to whatever the hell you like, if the client doesn't use the speed available to it then it's not very efficient as an UPLOAD client

Well, we are disagreeing, you think ed2k lite is the best client available, I disagree

I never said it was "hurting the network" you are putting words in my mouth. As stated before you can set what you like in a gui, if the program doesn't make FULL use of the bandwidth given to it for upload and adhere 100% to the settings in the GUI then what's the point??

It's been pointed out that ed2k lite does not ustilise the full upload bandwidth given to it, Emule does. THAT'S the point I'm making

From a releasing standpoint you need something that is only going to put your highest prioritised files out.That is why I use an Emule mod...through trial and error I have learned this one thing though....Not every mule will run the same on each system.What works good on one may not even start on another.It's best to experiment with a bunch and find the one you are happy with and stick to it.I get a bit leary of claims of the best client from any version of mule and in this day and age I don't see why you would even want to just blindly go with one client when there are so many to choose from.

emmn ok now you are driving me crazy.

#1 i never said edk was better, i'm just pointing out its no worst then emule, in speed, sharing or anything else.

#2 the bottom line is we are all sharing

#3 when you say "its bad for the network" i think everybody will agree that, that will translate to hurting the network.

#4 at 1kb with the download was set at 500,000kb so i don't see who that ratio is any good or better for uploads then edk.

#5 forget what the users are saing look at my last update pick and you will see at that time i was uploading at i think its 30kb.

#6 there are no upload problems with edk lite what so ever, no matter what i do it will upload to the max of the settings i tell it to.

again i don't see anything you are saying make edk lite an infrerior client. atleast nothing that does not apply to emule also.

Look fella, like the guy said, we are very community based here. We all upload huge amounts and your client is IMHO, to be painfully honest, shit at this.

No-one is trying to force an opinion on you, we are simply stating our own opinions.

Edonkey is an old and inferior system, eMule was the evolution of it.

You really are fighting a losing battle mate, nothing here has convinced me to change clients, I never was and prolly never will be impressed by ED2K or Overnet, face it, they have been left behind.

TBH mate, if you really are that intent on making a change for the better, try working on an eMule client.

I do not know if ED2K uses a credit system like eMule, but eMule can give me very good speeds if given enough time to get thru queues.

If I was you buddy, I would quit before things get nasty. You will never convince us it is what you think it is, we simply do not agree. We may not be right, but that is our choice.

Also, how can running each client for half an hour at a time be a proper test? It can take a long time to work thru queues, but when you do the speeds start to pick up. On this point I put it to you that your test's are seriously flawed. If you want we can arrange to grab the same file, you on your client and I will fire up my mule client, then we see. Name the file and we be on.

You tell me to ignore what people who have tried the client say (people who I know and trust).

ALL I have said is that based on the experiences of people who I trust, this client has poor upload ability, and THAT ALONE as a releaser makes it inferior to Emule.

It still begs the questions, Why are you getting so worked up over an ed2k network client? and given the evidence of people using the client and having concerns over the upload abilities (or lack of), why are you still trying to convince people to use it??

If I'm "Driving you crazy" by asking you questions about (Your?) ed2k client then I'm sorry.

well so far every body is calling it shit, slow, low sources and etc with not PROOF.

if you gonna say something back it up. words are easy to say.

i can just start saying emule has viruses in it. but it won't mean shit if i can't prove it.

your friends are saying the upload is shit then how come my pick shows me uploading at 30KB+ ???

i'm uploading at 60KB right now would you like a pic of that??

if you guys are here so much about the communitty then why not inform the community of their choises. instead of obvioustly dismissing a client just because you personally don't like it.

so far every i say i have a screen shot of (aka proof) all i have herd here is empty words.

you said speeds sucks i have proof so far with "your choise of ed2k link" edk lite is getting it faster.

you said upload is not good i already have proof of the fact that its not true.

every thing you guys are saying are jsut exactly that, you can't not get one thing you are saying to dublicate on my pc??

where is the slow download speed with your link? so far emule is the slow one.

i came here exactly for the reason of thinking of a p2p community, a community where users can view thier choises and be informed correctly.

seems to me like this is a commuity o right, an emule community, a we only like and use emule here and we don't care about nothing else.

i came here to discuss and see what people "realy" think of the client, not just say "it sucks because i said so" and yes by not showing proof you are saying "because i said so"

i'm begining to think that i am in fact in the wrong place, i wish there were some open minded people that could give me some real feed back, feed back that i can dublicate on my pc also, in which case allows me to reaserch and posssibley do something about it .

that is how clients get better.

its real easy for you guys to bully me around its your house and if 4 of you guys decide that no matter what you like emule then, sure your firends tried it and its no good.'

question i want you to ask your self is, then why can't i duplicate this on my pc??

you guys don't want me here just say so.

but if you gonna talk shit about any client either save your breath or say something real, some thing that can be dublicated.

if you guys just wanna bully me around then just say so, man i'll save you the headache. lol. my job is informing peolpe of their choises instead of shoving what i like down their mouth.

and last i like to say i'm not trying to get anybody to change clients just wanted to see what was so slow and inferior about edonkey???

is it that you can't choose your toolbar image?? lol

Right, this thread is going nowhere, unless it starts being CONSTRUCTIVE i'm going to lock it.

THEMANN, You've been given the opinion of two people who have tried your client and it was unanimous that it doesn't handle upload well.

People are free to use any client they like, I'll switch in an instant to a BETTER client, but this unfortunately doesn't seem to be it.

Nobody wants to bully anyone and if they do they'll be dealt with by the mods of the site, if you feel you've been treated unfairly then PM me, spud, Dxa, Polityk or JohnDoe (is that everyone??) and action WILL be taken against any evidence of bullying.
This site is one of the most friendly and accomodating p2p sites I've ever been to and I would hope it stays that way.

One HUGE problem and one that I think you will find no matter what is that no 2 peoples PC's, networks, ISP's etc are the same, For example, I get really crappy results using BitTorrent, a client that many here swear by, it's a question of finding what works for you, if in your case that's EDLite then good, for me it's Emule Pawcio 5.15f. What is not on is trying to convince others that your experience is "Right", it isn't.

It has nothing to do with you personally, and I'm sorry that you are taking it that way.

thats the thing as i had said previously first and formost the important thing is for us all to share.

my only thing is that saying that it does not handle upload well.

ok in what way?? it uploads just fine, i'm still uploading at 60KB. how is that bad?? i'm downloading at 6KB. how is that bad??

my problem is that people are saying its crap and bla bla bla when its not.

my point exactly, if its not your cup of tea then say "its a good client but not my cup of tea"

why talk crap about it?? specialy when its not true. you don't see me putting down emule except for the download speed which is true.

other then that all i have done is try to see how it is slow and source less??

when its not. one of the admins keeps saying its crap but his own ed2k is downloading faster in edk lite then it is in emule and he is the one that said its slow and source less.

i'm not here to change anybodys mind to use edk lite. i am, here to inform people that edk is just as good when it comes to downlaod and uplaod and i am proving it not just saying it.

i hate it when people call a client crap when its realy not.

you want a crap client go try exeem thats the mother of all crap and over hype.

if somebody likes their emule thats just fine more power to them, but no reason to talk false crap about a client thats not true.

thats all. you know as well as i do that if a new user sees this thread and reads the admin's post, he is not even gonna bother to check the client. which is the admin's goal to begin with.

right off the bat without even trying it edklite was dismissed as slow and soruce less, which so far have been proven opposite.

after i'm done testing this emule i will try the one you are using, just like you i will use what i think is a better client also.

THEMANN, you did state in your first post (which I notice you've now changed beyond recognition) that ed2klite was better than emule.
When people here tried it they found that THEIR EXPERIENCE with it did not back those claims up and stated why, you got very defensive and have argued EVERY point made.

You have taken ANY critiscism of your client VERY pesonally and assuming you developed it I can see why, but that changes nothing.

If needs be, this entire thread can be binned and re-started, but I feel that it IS/WAS a constructive thread looking at the advantages and disadvantages of an alternative ED2k client (yours). I merely pointed out that as this is a site of UPLOADERS this may not be the client for them.
However as this discussion appears to now be going nowhere at all I'm not convinced it needs to stay open anymore.

see, that may be the problem. only a couple of seconds after i start emule the upload is at the maximum which i chose in the options. it is NEVER below that value.

btw, i decided to test your program, just to keep an open mind. i mean in case the upload is alright and the download (also for rare and new files) IS higher i'll definitely give it a go. since i'm releasing stuff atm, i'll be able to really see if the lite version is a good alternative for this board. i'm at work atm, so give me a few hours and i'll show you what is good or bad about edonkey imo...

Our comments are from experience and actual usage. IMO it has poor speeds, both down and up, you don't like that then tough. No-one here has said "Do not ever use this client", we merely choose not to because we do not like it.



How? Like PCA said, everyones systems work differently. Screenshots prove shit really, they could be edited, or merely prt scr at a good time.



That is just stupid.



Now you are being childish, if we did not want the community here to know, this would have been removed by now. I resent your incinuations that I just dismissed the client, I tried it and did not like the performance, simple as. You don't like my opinions then tough mate.

Be warned, you are gonna make a lot of enemies here if you try to make shit, and saying we are not community orientated is just crazy shit. We are, once you get accepted as one of the lads, probably the best mule community around.


No point quoting any more of your post as it makes less sense the further you read. We are not trying to bully you, you asked our opinions, some of us tried your client and gave opinions.

IMO opinion your client is not as good as my eMule client, infact it still suffers from some of the "annoyances" of the original ED2K, like erratic uploads.

You wanna know why you cannot replicate our problems, well Duh!!!!! If you wanna replicate all my issues then feel free, tell me why my PC rebootson it's own sometimes? Why does my connection sometimes drop? Why did my car breakdown?

For Christ's sake man, no-one is having a go at you, and no-one is talking shit about your client, we all like different clients. PCA like Pawcio, i think it is shit and use MorphXT, so what. You don't see PCA crying and bitching.

Please do not take offense, none is meant against you. Your client is not right for me, live with it.

problem here is that you keep saying edk lite is slower in upload and download but with your won ed2k link edonkey is at 91MB when emule is still stuck at 2MB.

i don't see how edk is slow in upload and download. infact emule is the one so far that is slower.

as for as "You wanna know why you cannot replicate our problems, well Duh!!!!! If you wanna replicate all my issues then feel free, tell me why my PC rebootson it's own sometimes? Why does my connection sometimes drop? Why did my car breakdown?"

thats funny i tech support alot of different apps and clients and infact i can duplicate problems every time there is one.

when we can't dublicate a problem it shows the problem is with the user and not the app.

your car broke down because either you bought a bad car or you did not take care of it.

your connection drops because for one reason or another you line is getting overloaded. (assuming you know enough to set it up right to being with.)

why does your pc keep restarting?? you got an old os time to update or viruses. (assuming you know enough to set your pc up right to being with)

the thing is every thing has a reasoning behind it. nothing just happens to happen everything can be traced back to an action, all the way back to how earth itself came out to be.

Not in public anyway.

RIGHT, I'm locking this. It's going nowhere and the same utterly stupid arguments are being used when there is no argument to be had.

THEMANN, you asked for an opinion of your client. You now have that opinion, sorry you don't like it.

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