Actually Overnet was the first ed2k application i used. I was still using it until i first started posting here. Then i switched to emule after all the advice i got.

I'm not worried about this application too much. Why? Because trackers die faster than anything. Either due to overloading(can't handle the bandwidth it takes for tracking peers and such) or the MPAA getting them shutdown. I've been using bt long enough to know that the tracker system just doesn't work well. Without having a need for a central tracker it just makes it that much harder for them to stop the file from being traded. Plus the bandwidth constriants are not there due to everyone being a tracker instead.

It does look like Kazaa but so does emule in a way(ie-the search and transfer system looks similar). It's just the hashing system for bt and ed2k are far superiour to Kazaa. They are finding it impossible to corrupt files with torrents(don't know as much about the ed2k end of it so i can't say too much) because it hashes every bit of the file instead of just the beginning and ends of the file like sig2dat was for Kazaa. Plus with the files on torrents being hashed that hash file has to be downloaded in order to get the rest of the file. Kazaa's lack of hashing system is one of the main things that has killed that application(the owners of Kazaa have done a good job of that also)

But i see your point with Overnet. So i take it your not a fan at all of Kad then? But torrents has got to do something to get around the tracker problem. So far to me Exeem looks like the next best thing. Only time will tell i guess

G3 Torrent, the best BT client, banned It can be set up as a leecher client but....

unless they#ve changed it, wasn't kazaas thing on the side and you click "images" or whatever, then the search results are on the right (identical to this exceed). Emule's looks a lot nicer I always thought, and the results you have a lot of options over too.

Anyway, I was commenting on the 'bland' look. I'm more of in favour of a pretty look you get from C++ -> Emule, Bitcomet, etc. than the flimsy edonkey200, kazaa, azureus, Winmx, suprnova GUIs, if anyone is talking about.

My concern with this suprnova thing is, its quite clearly not BitTorrent anymore so they need to be really careful. People take a while to take up new systems.



No, I don't mind it at all now that it works at last. My point is that if they did KAD only, it would fail. Splitting the protocol just doesn't work well, and with backwards compatability comes overhead and performance degredation.

Which once again brings us back to suprnova's client. They've really got to make something spectacular, or new if its really going to work well.

Trackerless bt. That's what makes it work for me. The thing with ed2k is that servers have been good to ed2k from the beginning and they're still going. Trackers have not been good to torrents. If you go back to the beginning of torrents which tracker sites on bt are still around? Suprnova. Not exactly a tracker now but it was before. That's it. All the rest have died.

Everybody here always says how fast torrents die on here. That's because of trackers. This should eliminate the short lifespan of the torrent. Integrating the good things about emule with the speed/efficiency of torrents can only be a good thing in my view. Let's hope it lives up to it.

With trackerless BT can sites like crazyMazeys/TorrentBits still maintain a ratio rule on members and track what they are downloading and sharing?

Or will those sites have to remain on Tracker based Bit torrent technology?

Looks like Azereus has acquired a "hack" addon allowing 0 uploading and the usual leecher mods

So might start getting black listed too

<a href="http://static.thepiratebay.org/stuffer/" target=blank>More info</a>

well given its shit resource usage, hopefully this will be a period of self reflection and optimisation too

Java can be decent, given the right programming skills (ie. not me )

Oh I agree Spud, Azureus is a great client, but fuck me does it need some resources. The other day I had 2 700 meg avies coming down, also sharing 2 back aswell, it was using over 300meg in total if RAM and VM sizes were combined.

Is there an FAQ for setting up Torrent Clients on this forum?

I was happy getting 20k or so when I was on 512, but now I am on 2MB it just isn't good enough.

I was using an old client, so I tried both Azureus and ABC tonight but both give me 20k or less. Azureus showed that I was only connecting to a fraction of the available users.

I have ABC on now and it's going to take me 9 hours to get a 377MB file! :-o Also it can't even see how many total seeds and peers there are.

There must be a problem with the ports or firewall or something like that, but I don't really know how to open ports or tweak a firewall at all (can the MS one even do this or does it just try and block everything?).

Any help is appreciated.

Opening up ports on your firewall is one possible solution (SP2 really fucks with some p2p clients in regards to connections with ports, I think). Or it might just be a badly seeded torrent. I jumped on one torrent with an open tracker and got no more than 2.8 kb/s down, but up it was going over 30 kb/s. Then I tried getting the same torrent from a closed tracker, and it downed smoothly at 130 kb/s.

I recommend http://www.filelist.org and http://www.elitetorrents.org if they are accepting new members.

here's another one for people searching for new clients:
http://www.torrentflux.com/

Torrent Flux.

So what makes it different? Its a php frontend for bittornado! So this one's designed for distrubuted/network setups.

If you've got apache, php and mysql (and python obviously), then you can run this client. You run an sql statement to setup a database, then you just load up the html in a browser and start torrenting.

Its multi-user, so you can have different people uploading torrents remotely, then these torrents are started and downloaded to the server. Very neat, and very useful if you have a single machine on a network to download like i do.

I just have to type the machine name/torrentflux, and then can send torrent files (either from torrent files i've downloaded, or put in a url and it will grab and start downloading the torrent). Very neat and you can obviously use it from work/remotely.

Doubtful everyone has the requirements to run it, but still, very neat. Giving it a test now. No problems yet.

okay looks like torrent flux is a winner for me. There's one problem about not being able to download to seperate drives, but it was worth adding 5GB to the partition.

Will check that one later. Looks kinda cool.

right it gets my thumbs up. Best client out. Its basically bittornado (I think that's the client its using), but you get a web interface and really low spec usage. On the server machine you don't see anything, since apache handling all the web requests and the torrents are loaded without a gui (since it doesn't need any).

Its platform independant, you just need apache, php, mysql and python, which unfortunately not everyone has. Linux people will no doubt have it all from their distro, anyone else on windows will have to grab and configure it all. I had it all setup anyway since i have dead-donkey and fileheaven.org mirrored on my local harddrive.

If you have a pc that you run all the time but don't use as your main pc like me then this is a must, since it server exactly the purpose of a low resource running service so you can upload and manage from anywhere with a browser.

Its multi user too, so you can set up one, then everyone upload torrents and they'll all be downloaded to seperate folders. Very useful for release groups using torrents for distrubution to a server i'd bet.

As you can see from that shot, I'm logged in as spudthedestroyer and all my downloads go to x:\downloads\Spudthedestroyer. I *think* that if two users try and download the same torrent it won't let you so its very good.

Might be cool to set one up on an offshore really fast webserver, then again they cost a lot of money.

Anyway, its very, very clever imo. I'm going to stick with it since its hella cool for what i need to do

What Bittorrent clients do you guys use.. i am currently using Bitornato... but I would liek to get one if the options to QUE files..... at the mo I can onyl open one bittorrent at a time.... unless i want them to downlaod slwer.

Azureus, multiple prioritised downloads, or a prioritised queue. And with the updates of the last few days, it now supports searches and trackerless torrents.

I've been using Azureus from the beginning up to a few weeks ago. Tried BitComet and it seems to find much more sources. Could me my imagination tho.

*merged*

Here's another good one i'm downloading with now http://www.ziptorrent.com/

Here's one that ludites with turd pcs might want to check out: