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Dr Phibes
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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The Devil, Probably Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:54 pm Posts: 1962 Location: UK
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Heres my list not in any paticular order
70's
Wicker Man
Jaws
Mark of the Devil
Hills have Eyes
Exorcist
Zombie 2
Dawn of the Dead
Wizard of Gore
Phantasm
Texas Chainsaw
80's
Maniac
Evil Dead
Re Animator
Hellraiser
Day of the Dead
Dead And Buried
Brain Damage
Videodrome
House by the Cemetry
Howling
90's
Dead Alive
Mimic
Dust Devil
Bride of Re Animator
Candyman
Hardware
Cant think of any more that i've seen that i'd put in a top ten
00's
Resident Evil
Beyond Re Animator
28 Days Later
Dog Soldiers
Final Destination 2
Thats it for the 00's too
Top 3
Dead and Buried
Evil Dead
Hellraiser
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Some nice choices there
Only one's i'd say really shouldn't be there are Resident Evil and Final Destination 2... not 'top' material if you ask me. All the others are nice titles though.

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Dr Phibes
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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The Devil, Probably Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:54 pm Posts: 1962 Location: UK
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It was the log thru the cop car in FD 2 that got me but your right probably not top. But thought Resident Evil was good but then i havn't played the games and dont know if that would change my opinion.
Would liked to have put Spiderman in ther but thats way off genre 
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Well i didn't think it was remotely top without bringing the fact its RE into it, that just makes it sting all the more....
became:

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cybersatan
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Will Tear Your Soul Apart Joined: Sun Nov 17, 2002 2:48 am Posts: 662
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just read this and have a few spare minutes, so here's my attempt at making a list of favorietes, im probably forgetting the best movies anyway so there may come an update later as some come to mind i guess...
quickly made, my list would roughly include:
20's
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- Nosferatu ( 1922)
30's
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40's
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50's
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60's
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- Night Of the Living Dead (1968)
70's
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- El Topo (1970) (maybe not straight horror, but i like it alot!)
- Cannibal Man (1972) ( not the best flick but made a big impression on me when first seeing it...)
- Deep River Savages (1972)
- All Lone Wolf And Cub Series ( all parts)/Shogun Assassin - 1972
- Ilsa She Wolf Of The SS (1975) ( im a sucker for the ilsa movies, and one of them atleast belongs in here... )
- Buio Omega/Beyond The Darkness (1979)
- Alien (1979) hell, all that Giger art made into monsters is hellacool!
- Zombie 2/Zombie Flesh Eaters (1979) ( well, lots of Fulci's would be cool to put here...)
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80's
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- Evil Dead 2 (1987)
- Nekromantik (1987)
- Near Dark (1987)
90's
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- Nekromantik 2 (1991) so yes, im a buttgereit fan...sue me
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erm, more to come i guess.....
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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hehe, always gotta listen to someone who quotes cult and horror specialist titles in their top ten... normally means there a sick puppy cyber
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Question is, does the version you've seen count, as far as i'm aware nosferatu flopped badly, and all prints got destroyed/lost like a lot of old movies, so does the reconstruction represent the original and count as the 1922 version of a 1970 version (I think that's when it was made).
Another decent oldie is Das Kabinet... i enjoyed that one a lot. Then there's Frankenstein and Bride of Frankenstein (the latter being better imo)
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cybersatan
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Will Tear Your Soul Apart Joined: Sun Nov 17, 2002 2:48 am Posts: 662
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im not sure what you mean but the version of Nosferatu i have on dvd is the restored 1922 version. When the movie came out all of the copys were to be destroyed because of the bram stoker estate sued the german producers for making a film that was based on stokers book without permission. English judges ordered all copys to be destroyed but some copys survived in germany and thats the version that has been put on dvd and im talking about. Im pretty sure this not a remake
maybe you are confused with the 1979 version under the same name?
and yes , other cool oold horrormovies from long forgotten decades are 1902 Voyage dans la lune ( melies) , 1910 frankenstein (edison), 1935 bride of frankenstein....
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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no, what i mean is that nosferatu prints was destroyed/degraded completely, so even though its the same footage its not actually the same movie since its a very different edit. Like Metropolis and many of the original classics that were not stored correctly. It was only 'restored' in the 1970s for a movie exhibition where it then received all the praise, but on original release it was a huge flop and destroyed the film company and its director, it was after the war when people noticed it again, and then decades latter when it received the status it has now.
As far as we know, it resembles very little the original movie released in the 20s was my comment.
Its like metropolis and Das Kabinet in that way, both of which had lots of parts missing. So it was reedited completely using reels and reels of footage, that may or may not have been in the original. So its kind of like a completely new film.
I'll get out my film book and double check that, but i'm almost positive it was nosferatu.
Das Kabinet was 1919, that's definitely one of the best of the 10s.
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Member13
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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EDIT: Topic got merged so my post is about movies from the 70's
Decided to bring this thread back up. Wonder why, but here we go.
A quick top ten list of my favourites in time order. This might be totally different tomorrow
Bay of Blood (1971)
The Exorcist (1973)
The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974)
Deep Red (1975)
The House with Laughing Windows (1976)
Suspiria (1977)
Dawn of the Dead (1978)
Alien (1979)
Werner Herzog's Nosferatu the Vampyre (1979)
Lucio Fulci's Zombi 2 (1979)
Some other that could belong to the list of best horror movies of the 70's. For a reason or another I didn't put them on my list above.
I Drink Your Blood (1971)
Tombs of the Blind Dead (1971)
The Night Stalker (1972)
Last House on the Left (1972)
The Legend of Hell House (1973)
Rose of Iron (1973)
Black Christmas (1974)
Beyond the Door (1974)
Jaws (1975)
Cronenberg's efforts [Shivers (1975), Rabid (1977) & The Brood (1979)]
Carrie (1976)
The Omen (1976)
Ultimo mondo cannibale (1977)
Piranha (1978)
Halloween (1978)
Phantasm (1979)
A bunch of gialli that can be described as horror films
A few Hammer movies perhaps
Also one could include these, but I'm not sure if they should be described as horror films.
Don't Look Now (1973)
The Wicker Man (1973)
95% of these I remembered straight away so the task wasn't too hard. I just added the release years later on.
As a conclusion I can say that the 70's can hold its head up high when it comes to horror films.
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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*merged in an old topic that got bumped*
Basically the same thing 
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Blood Sucking Freak Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:07 am Posts: 175 Location: In damaged brain
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here are couple of movies I liked the best:
- 70's
TCM
The Exorcist
Halloween
Let Slepping Corpses Lie
I Spit on Your Grave
Carrie
Black Christmas
Torso
Phantasm
Last House on the Left
- 80's
The Evil Dead
The Thing
Nightmare on Elm Street
The Hitcher
American Werewolf in London
Child's Play
Hellraiser II
Zombi Holocaust
Slumber Party Massacre
Demons
- 90's
Event Horizon
Ravenous
Blade
Scream
The People under the Stairs
The Fog
The Entity
Candyman
Blair Witch
Bordello of Blood
00's
TCM remake
House of 1000 Corpses
Horror
Dawn of the Dead remake
Ginger Snaps 2
Cabin Fever
Haute Tension
The Ring (american)
Shaun of the Dead
Nothing Bleeds Forever (little Slovak tribute to Nosferatu)

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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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oh dear lord
Blade? Scream? BLAIR WITCH?
urrghh i feel sick. 
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:45 am Post subject: |
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Can't help it, I just like those movies
And as you can see, I don't like japanese stuff, think it's overrated a lot (almost fell asleep while watching original Ring) and also I don't like italian stuff much either. For me it's just brutality and gore with no atmosphere. And atmosphere is key to me. I don't mind gore at all, I just like things to be first scary, than gory
And besides, I really had hard time to think of good horror movies in 90's 
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Asian cinema isn't just the ring, if you think its just the ring then you've missed out on about 60 years of cinema. Have you not seen any Akira Kurasawa films?
Quote: | For me it's just brutality and gore with no atmosphere. And atmosphere is key to me |
Its a tad ironic that you don't like the Ring then. I mean as far as boring goes, Blair Witch is as boring as it gets imo. Overrated a lot too, you actually said that then listed Blair Witch, the film that was nothing and made out to be everything.
Imo Blair witch is one of the most boring, yawn inducing wretch fests in over 100 years of cinema
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Chadman
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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Spud, I'm not sure why you feel the need to pick apart other people's lists....and I'm really not sure why you picked jumped on two movies that are considered classics (not by you, of course) and left Bordello of Blood alone. Few tits make up for a tits up movie? Getting old? Mainstream popularity makes for bigger targets?
Anyway, everyone is entitled to an opinion, no matter how wrong it is.
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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Chadman, you know your on a forum that's whole point is to discuss right?
You friggin well should pick apart and argue your opinions, its a madatory part of a forums existance; its for the purpose of debate, its a tad stupid just posting lists if you aren't going to justify your choices, and secondly if a movie doesn't deserve to be in a top ten in your opinion then you should say so. Its the only way you can make a discussion thread out of it.
If you think you shouldn't pick apart people's lists, WTF is the point of this thread? It is the point silly, to discus..s not to pussy foot around and just reply "nice list", "oh nice list", "oh another nice list".... what a shit thread it would be. If something doesn't sit right you bloody well say so; god damn it, its the way I was raised and by jove, its the english way and is the entire point and dictionary definition of a forum.
And most importantly, when the hell have i ever said people can't have an opinion? I'm not sure what you think this thread, forum, site, etc. is for if not to discuss, rip and release. As long as you can substantiate an opinion then what's the problem?
That's the whole friggin point mate  Unless i feel asleep and we woke up in nazi germany.
As for bordello of blood it was okay, but that's most likely a subjective choice, whereas I think the choice of Blair Witch is because of popularity rather than content. A fad if you were.
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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I also don't get the problem with me criticising a top ten list, as long as you can substantiate it shouldn't really matter surely? And here comes another birage actually, concerning 1) asian cinema 2) Blair Witch.
I picked out some titles, there's others i don't agree with but they seem like subjective choices rather than seemingly filler titles, and i too love a lot of movies that aren't utterly brilliant. I will pick on the big hitters since i always find they aren't chosen for the right reasons, ie. totally unjustified by the chooser. Blair which considered a classic (i nearly started crying with laughter, yeah by who you never stated?), don't make me laugh! Read about how it got to where it did and you'll eat your words, its actually easily traceable down to marketing and pretty much bribary, its hilarious to suggest its the movie!
In the case of the Ring comment, for example, its by no way the best asain movie, not by a long, long way. I really liked it, but its not my favourite asian movie. But admitedly above he stated he doesn't like asain cinema because of the ring. IMO Akira Kurosawa is one of the world's greatest directors, and his work predates the ring by decades and put forward the template of cinema, particularly across asain countries. I just don't get the "i don't like japanese cinema" comments when i hear them to settle right. Only if you look at a couple of titles does it make that much sense. I'm not particular fond of specific periods of japanese cinema, but the entire asian cinema market has been breath taking, there's so many good movies i don't know where to start.
On the Blair Witch, it stands out most because its a really bad movie and undoubtedly in my mind was an uninspiring fad, that's brown nosed its way into the spotlight because there really hadn't been a horror movie out of the studios for a while (even though there were loads of foreign and independant movie, which of course don't get a general release). As said, a fad if you were, and i'm interested to see why such a droll factory of a movie is worthy of the best films of the 90s placement in someones mind, espeically considering it is very shallow and unsubstantiated in my opinion. Sure there weren't many good movies in the 90s, but that was one of the worst in that decade, definitely out of the famous horror movies. I've noticed people choose it when they can't think of another movie, which is more to do with advertising than the movie, since the former was the only thing of merit in that crappy movie. The story was crap where it existed, the cinematography and style was lifted straight from other movies and thusly it had absolutely no impact, and was purely done anyway, no atmosphere what so sever (another reason why i don't see why its chosen in a list if someone like this part of a movie in particular) and even if you can blindside some into it, it was totally directionless and thusly thrivelous, etc. That's not to mention terrible acting, and the fact that the movie is totally unwatchable in the most part... and people love it why? I know, hard to fathom given the movie itself, however.
"nothing's happening... nothing's happening... nothing's happening... something about a map, i dunno I wasn't listening... nothing's happening... nothing's happening... its finished... a lot of people looked pissed"
The only reason i've been able to get is because some fat american critic started the usual domino effect to stir up a buzz, when he said it was ace before it was released, and why? Because he knew dick about horror and took a dive. Harry Knowles, for those that care.*
That my friend, is my beef with Blair Witch in particular. Its popular by advertising, and really bad as a film which makes the whole thing even worse. Its a shit movie, but it brown nosed its way into public domain, when there are way better movies (ie. ones that are actually good) that get shunted.
*If you want to read why this means something, he's a) the worlds most famous critic b) the world's most influencial critic... surprise, surprise, he gets paid of by the studios for reviews including his 'exclusive' on blair witch which got it noticed when more people plagarised his review, if you care to read his background (hence all the shitty reviews he does). Yes, that's the only reason most people have even heard of Blair Witch undeniably. Sad really, but quite true if you care to see how Artisan got the critics attention  I mean come on, you never wondered why critics always 90% vs 10% come to the same conclusion given an opinionated, subjective field of journalism? Odd don't you think (if you don't take note of the rampant bribary and plagarism)? Sad really but that's why you know the Blair Witch exists my friend, not that the movie is deserved of any of its so called praise. Only rarely do journalistic critics ever review anything based on their own opinion, although undeniably, there's movies that get praised when the movie deserves it. They're quite rare though, and certainly not in the blair witches case lol
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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out of interest, how many people here actually think/have the opinion that the Blair Witch is a classic?
Maybe its not as bad as i remember by some act of god, but as it stands I'd rather watch house of the dead.
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Wow... let him have it why dontcha? But seriously, I agree completely with you about Blair Witch. Its advertising overshadowed the film entirely, allowing mainstream audiences to feel as if they were exclusive horror buffs. Before it was put on general release, those that spread it around the internet at that time probably felt it was truly special. (I didn't have internet then, so that's what I have heard). but to go down to the local conglomoplex and pay 10 bucks to watch that film, is truly a scam, and I feel depleted the effect of the film. As 'underground' horror fans, we tend to be lenient on low-budget-poorly-made crapshoots because mainstream audiences have no idea of its existence, giving the films an almost mysterious aura. Examples might be the likes of the Guinea Pig series or Joe d'amato sleazefests. On the other hand, films such as those pushed boundaries, where as BWP didn't really. The only boundary it pushed was being the cheapest mainstream film in recent history. General audiences feel like they are part of the 'cult' by praising the BWP. Sadly, I think they are wrong. BWP should have been a cult film, but alas marketing genious sucked the life from it. Go watch the equally crappy 'Last Broadcast' for a comparative experience. And to bring what Anton Crowley said on the Necrophagia video, "it ripped off Cannibal Holocaust". LOL, I think that guy needs to lay off the dope.
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spudthedestroyer
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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plus i'm a very shallow, angry person
I'm not sure its fair to say cult, I don't think blair witch ever had what it takes to be a cult film, it might have been enjoyed by a few people, but it isn't good enough to be considered cult (good in a good way, or good in an entertainly bad movie). Without the marketing and, lets just say, oddly favourable reviews it would just have dissappeared completely.
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